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Relegation/Promotion: Good or Bad?

Posted by SSreporters
634 days ago

Just want to know your thoughts on having sports mainly in Europe (soccer, rugby, basketball, hockey) having a relegation/promotion system?

The system is essentially a pyramid of leagues from the top to the very bottom. If you're team finishes in the top 4 of let's say "League 2", they get promoted to "League 1". But, if they finish in the bottom 3 of "League 1", they are sent down to "League 2". And if they finish mid-table they stay where they are.

So whaddaya think? Good or bad idea? I think it's a good idea. Why should a team that sucks so badly be allowed to play with the elite group of teams in any sport?

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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
634 days ago
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Didn't we just have this article a few weeks ago in reference to football? But anyways I like the idea of relegation simply because it rids us of the Arizona Cardinals, KC Royals, and LA Clippers of the world where you have owners who have figured out how to make money without making their teams better.
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SSreportersLegend
634 days ago
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Well.....and Derby County don't have to take 6-1 beatings from Chelsea anymore as well.:)
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
634 days ago
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They get to take one from Man United next week. :)
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SSreportersLegend
634 days ago
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And then from Arsenal.... Lampard with 4 goals, amazing.
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Pittsburgh GunnyMajor Leaguer
634 days ago
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I personally love the P&R system.
However, it would not work in North American leagues. One reason, money. Owners in North American leagues pay huge sums of money to either purchase existing franchises or expansion franchises. To then tell them that they face the possibility of moving down a league should they not perform well would not be accepted by these owners.
So for the North American leagues like the NHL, NFL, NBA and MLB I say leave them as they are.
The only North American league I would like to see develop a P&R system is MLS, it is still years away but eventually it will come.
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LASportsblogAAA-er
634 days ago
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Gunny, not saying your a biter, because it's a pretty common sense idea. But it seems to me Ive heard one Steven Cohen reiterate this many a time.
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Falcon02520Legend
634 days ago
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I don't care for it. I like that any given Sunday mentality. The chance that any year could be any one's year to remember. Imagine if you were on a great team, but because you were only in league 2, you won absolutely nothing...
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SSreportersLegend
634 days ago
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So you think that no matter how bad a team is they still have a right to play with the big boys because of that "Any Given Sunday" talk? Suppose we put that in perspective of school. If you're an F student in English you think you can still be with the brainiacs and not go to remedial English because any given test you can get an A?
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Falcon02520Legend
634 days ago
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Yes, because here in America the best athletes are the ones who make it to the bigs. There is free agency, draft picks, and many more things set up to make stuff more equal. Why can't the Royals have a chance at the World Series this season? What is so wrong with that? As for the school thing, that is an entirely different subject. There is a reason one thing is school and one is sports. When it comes to schooling, there are different people on different levels. When it comes to athletes, 10 year old kids aren't allowed in the majors and the four year junior varsity quarterback isn't making the roster at Michigan; there is competition.
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
633 days ago
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Well a great team in League 2 could still win the FA Cup and/or the League Cup. Then they'd get to play in Europe, as well. And they'd win their League and be promoted.
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DNLLegend
634 days ago
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I like it, but I agree that it has to be done at inception.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
634 days ago
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Cricket used to have a Major and Minor League structure in the UK. Then they split the "Major" League (the County Championship) into two divisions of nine with promotion and relegation. I don't like it personally. I would have favoured the regional divisions (three divisions of 6) personally.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
634 days ago
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Here's my preferred system:
If you have a limited number of teams, say in the NHL, NFL, NBA, MLB, then you should have no relegation and promotion. Because everyone in the League abides under the same rules. And there is no concern of talent dilution etc.
If you have an unlimited number of teams, say in football in the UK, then you should have relegation and promotion. Otherwise, talent would be ridiculously diluted (there are over 500 entrants in the FA Cup, for instance). Furthermore, the local divisions wouldn't work, because there could be vast swathes between them in terms of strength.
The problem with promotion and relegation is that teams at the top will always stay there. If you look at football all over the world, the same three or four sides have always dominated in each country's league. It's always the same teams, more often than not. The lack of it (and a salary cap) is more effective, in my opinion. I certainly prefer it.
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SSreportersLegend
634 days ago
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Ugh, Blackburn, 1995! And Newcastle and Leeds were considered one of the best before they fell off the radar.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
634 days ago
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Blackburn in 1995 was a shock. They were not good before that, or after that. They were relegated before they came back up to where they are now.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
634 days ago
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Man United have been in the top 3 teams in the League for the last 20 years, or thereabouts. The "Big 4" dominated the FA Cup from 1990ish until this season.
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SSreportersLegend
634 days ago
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I guess it's not the relegation it's the fact that Viduka, Tevez, all of those guys wanted to be no the famous and higher tier clubs. So slowly but surely you aren't seeing the England stars playing for West Ham but rather Man Utd because the money is there.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
634 days ago
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Michael Carrick, Jermaine Defoe, Frank Lampard, Joe Cole, and Rio Ferdinand all played in the same team for West Ham once upon a time. That's the problem, the teams at the top will always get more money than the others because they win all the prize money. Then they buy the best players from other teams.
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SSreportersLegend
634 days ago
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I swear Carrick is doing nothing for United. Him and Hargreaves....
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ThecrookedcapAll-Star
634 days ago
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I think it works in most soccer leagues because of the mentality with which the Football League was started. Whereas the National League (baseball) was started and run as a business pretty much from the start, the Football League did every to avoid being business-like. It's only been in the last few decades that the powers that it was impossible to avoid. If they rebooted the leagues now, they probably wouldn't do use it now. Note that of the bigger new national leagues (MLS and Australia's A-League) don't have it.
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Falcon02520Legend
634 days ago
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Brilliant answer...
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