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False Prophet vs. Davis21wylie NFL Playoff prediction update/predictions

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by user False Prophet and Davis21wylie


So the two of us have a challenge going on to decide who is better at picking the NFL Playoffs. Davis21Wylie has his highly accurate formula that he is using, and False Prophet has his own logic that has betrayed him 1 time in the past 2 years. Here's how we did in the Wild Card weekend.

Recap, Round 1

D21Dub

*=Correct Predictions

A-B	Team A%	Team B%	OddsA	Home	A	B	Favorite
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IND-KC	0.591	0.513	57.8%	3.1%	61.0%	39.0%	Indy*
SEA-DAL	0.451	0.564	38.8%	3.1%	42.0%	58.0%	Dallas
NE-NYJ	0.647	0.487	65.9%	3.1%	69.0%	31.0%	New England*
PHI-NYG	0.590	0.488	60.2%	3.1%	63.3%	36.7%	Philly*
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Wild Card Record: 3-1

Total Record: 3-1

'Prophet

*=Correct Predictions

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Winner	KC	SEA*	NE*	PHI*
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Loser	IND	DAL	NYJ	NYG
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Wild Card Record: 3-1

Overall Record: 3-1

Divisional Round Predictions

D21Dub

The Objective Predictions:

A-B	Team A%	Team B%	OddsA	Home	A	B	Favorite
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SDG-NWE	0.667	0.647	52.2%	3.1%	55.3%	44.7%	San Diego
BAL-IND	0.681	0.591	59.6%	3.1%	62.8%	37.2%	Baltimore
CHI-SEA	0.627	0.451	67.2%	3.1%	70.3%	29.7%	Chicago
NOR-PHI	0.600	0.590	51.0%	3.1%	54.2%	45.8%	New Orleans
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NOTE: The Following predictions do not count in the challenge, these are purely for fun.

The Subjective Predictions:

  • San Diego vs. New England - The key matchup will obviously be LaDainian Tomlinson against the Pats' run D, which ranked 10th in the league by Football Outsiders' metrics. If LT can have one of his signature performances, it could seriously hamper New England's chances, especially since the Bolts are at home. Likewise, the Pats' rushing game could enjoy a fine performance against San Diego's run defense, which was one of the weaker run-stopping units in the NFL during the regular season. But in a game of this magnitude, the passers also deserve a lot of focus. Tom Brady had another mistake-free playoff game vs. the Jets last week, and San Diego's secondary is not a particularly top-flight group. Meanwhile, New England's pass D ranked 7th during the season, and could prove a daunting opponent for Philip Rivers, who faded down the stretch of the regular season and boasts no playoff experience. And you can be sure that Bill Belichick will draw up a scheme to confuse the young passer, making San Diego's task that much harder. In other words, based on their track record, New England has to be the (slight) favorite here -- numbers be damned.
  • Baltimore vs. Indianapolis - I smell an ambush. Indy will be walking into an incredibly hostile environment, against an opponent that has doubtless used their week off to strengthen their game plan. Peyton Manning did not look like himself against K.C. last week, and Baltimore has the best defense in football. If the Colts are to win, they will have to exploit the Ravens' weak running game and force Steve McNair to make plays in long-yardage situations. But McNair is looking as sharp recently as Manning looked confused last week... This should be a fun matchup to watch, but I just don't see Indianapolis winning. You gotta take Baltimore.
  • Chicago vs. Seattle - People are saying that this showdown is all about Rex Grossman, but it doesn't have to be. Seattle's run defense was extremely porous during the regular season, while the Bears boasted one of the top rushing attacks in the league. If they can control the ball (specifically keeping Grossman out of long-yardage situations), Chicago should have a very good chance to win against a Seahawks squad that underachieved all season and were lucky to advance past Dallas last week. Theoretically, the Bears are facing the weakest team remaining in the postseason, and even though Seattle is certainly capable of another upset, their luck probably ran out with the Romo gaffe. Consider Chicago the favorite in this matchup.
  • New Orleans vs. Philadelphia - Both of these teams have overcome serious obstacles just to get to this point, but one of their storybook seasons has to come to a close this weekend. Which will it be? Philly's offense is dynamic and versatile, and should be able to have their way with New Orleans' suspect defense. New Orleans has an equally high-powered offense, although Philly's D is better than that of the Saints' (especially in the secondary). Since these two teams are so evenly-matched, this game may come down to special teams -- the Eagles' specialists have been disappointing all season long, and they've been particularly deficient in the second half of the year. Whatever happens, it should be a fun game to watch. I'll give New Orleans the nod by virtue of their being at home, but it's far from a lock.

'Prophet

No crazy formulas, almost no stats or ranks, just my thoughts and analysis.

Image:NewEnglandPatriots.png vs. Image:SanDiegoChargers.png

Brady vs. Rivers, The Teacher vs. Marty Ball. Bolts O vs. Pats D. Bellichik has likely been working on a gameplan for the Chargers since they clinched a playoffs spot , and I'm sure he's found a way to keep LT out of the End zone. What the pats have to do to win is simple, score quickly and early multiple times. If the pats get up 10-0 or 14-0, and the chargers have had 2 3 and outs and a long drive that is ended just out of field goal range, the Bolts will have to start throwing, which means the Pats can blitz and mess up Rivers. I think this will be fun to watch, but the Pats get it done.


Image:IndianapolisColts.png vs. Image:BaltimoreRavens.png

There isn't a heck of a lot to say about this game. Manning will get blitzed, and sacked. Addai will get nowhere on the ground, and the Colts will lose in an absolute blowout.

Image:PhiladelphiaEagles.png vs. Image:NewOrleansSaints.png

I love what the Saints have done this year. It has been ammazing and a good sign of the future, but I just don't buy into them as a top 5 team. The Eagles, on the other hand, are amazing. They may have beaten the Giants on a GW Field Goal, but the Giants actually showed up to play last week, and the Saints were not hot to end the season. I think that as long as Brian Westbrook has a good game, the Eagles will win.

Image:SeattleSeahawks.png vs. Image:ChicagoBears.png

This is a hard game. The Bears have a bad offense, and we will se what they can do on defense with one of their starters out and Tank Johnson not being quite focused on the game. I think I have to go with the Bears, because when I wrote my False Prophet's 2006 NFL Playoff Preview, I had this matchup going to the Bears.

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ChristofMVP
1056 days ago
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Disagree with you on the Bears & Pats games while I agree with you on the other two.
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JuTMSY4Legend
1056 days ago
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D21, I'll be the first to admit I'm huge eagles fan, but Special Teams won't be the reason the eagles will lose on Saturday. Moreover, I'm not sure exactly how to read the chart but either Philly ranks 23 and NO is 21 or Philly is 30 and NO is 27. Either way, they both appearently stink (I would disagree, the Special teams for the eagles haven't been as good as usual, but not terrible like you claim). Bottom line, the eagles are about as bad at special teams as New Orleans is good...
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JuTMSY4Legend
1056 days ago
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By the way D21, are you aware that objective predictions gave you the home team and only once last week did it give you an away team (and it was wrong). If i were a betting man, I'd put money on the home team in each game this week (my eagles not included)
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Davis21wylieMVP
1056 days ago
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Re: post 1 - In the link, the teams are sorted by special teams strength over the entire season, so NO ranks 14th (slightly better than average), while PHI is 22nd (2 percent worse than average). The blue column is "weighted," meaning that only recent games are accounted for (by that metric, NO is 21st and PHI is 23rd, but NO is 0.4% worse than average, while PHI is 2.5% worse). Any way you cut it, NO has the better special teams corps. Re: post 2 - The home teams are frequently favorited because team W-L records almost always correspond to team strength, even with no SOS adjustment. The job of my ratings is to sniff out those instances where W-L are inflated or deflated by luck or scheduling. For example, if not for Romo's botched hold (or Glenn's fluke fumble), Dallas would have fulfilled my prediction by beating Seattle -- and I still feel like the Cowboys are a much better team. As a rule, though, go with the home teams in the playoffs; they got HF advantage for a reason, after all.
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JuTMSY4Legend
1055 days ago
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You're right, I still think a team that "ranks" 14th in Special Teams and another that ranks 22 are pretty close, i guess it depends on how close their "scores" are.

Also, you're right, home teams typically are favored. The logic for this in divisional games is simple. Clearly superior teams (NFC this year probably doesn't count) and an extra weeks rest. If i remember though, reading a column last week on ESPN, home teams in the conf. championships over the last 16 years are 18-14, which isn't very good, all things considered...

Anyways, i forgot to say it, but good article...Good stuff to argue about, but it'll be settled by monday
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JoebookRed-Shirting
1056 days ago
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Do you really think the Bears will lose at home to Seattle?
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JuTMSY4Legend
1055 days ago
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Personally, I think this is the most likely upset. Then again, if the bears defense is fired up early, its over...Mark my words, if the seahawks don't score and have the lead by the end of the 1st quarter, they will lose...
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1056 days ago
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This is the ultimate stats v opinion thing. I expect there will be two very interested users of this site in Messrs Stiles and Bball regarding the result...
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False ProphetAll-Star
1055 days ago
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Manny will be watching the Bolts-Pats game because if the Pats lose, I have to write an opinion on why Brady will never win another Super Bowl.
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PeanMajor Leaguer
1056 days ago
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nice job guys...i also like the challenge stakes. thats alot of bios!
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False ProphetAll-Star
1055 days ago
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Which is why I'm glad it won't be me...
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Davis21wylieMVP
1055 days ago
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Talking smack, FPro? I thought this was a friendly competition!
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False ProphetAll-Star
1055 days ago
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it is, dont worry D21W. But what fun is a friendly competeition without a little smack talk?
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Davis21wylieMVP
1052 days ago
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Thanks a lot, Baltimore!
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