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Would Have, Should Have, Could Have: A Cleveland Indians Story

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by user Ross K.

First of all, I'd like to point out that part of the reason the Cleveland Indians are in fourth place in the AL Central is because the Detroit Tigers and Chicago White Sox are good teams. I don't want to take anything away from their accomplishments. That being said though, it's time to vent a little about the Tribe.

Cleveland's last five losses have been by these scores: 6-7, 5-6, 8-9, 3-7, 1-3. Only one of those games wasn't close. But even in that 3-7 blowout, the loss fell completely on the bullpen who gave up four runs in the 9th inning.

The 6-7 game (against Detroit last night), the 5-6 and 8-9 games (both against the Boston Red Sox and the last two (both against the Seattle Mariners were all winable games. The problem fell on the bullpen.

This would be understandable if it wasn't for one small fact: Last year the Indians had the best bullpen in the Majors.

Let's play "Where Are They Now" with the player that time in the 2005 Cleveland Indians Bullpen:
Bob Wickman - Recently traded to the Atlanta Braves
Bob Howry - Signed ludicrous contract with Chicago Cubs, has 3.33 ERA
David Riske - Traded to Red Sox in Coco Crisp deal, later traded to White Sox, has ERA of 3.33
Scott Sauerbeck - On Oakland A's DL, has ERA of 5.06
Rafael Betancourt - Still with Tribe, has appeared in only 33 games due to injury, has ERA of 4.14
Arthur Rhodes - Traded to Philadelphia Phillies in Jason Michaels deal, has ERA of 5.50
Jason Davis- Still with Indians, has spent most of year in AAA, ERA at 4.70
Fernando Cabrera- Still with Indians, has spent time in majors and AAA, ERA of 6.10
Matt Miller - Still with Indians, has been on DL almost the entire year
Jeremy Guthrie - Still with Indians, has spent most of year in AAA, ERA of 6.59
Brian Tallet - Traded to Toronto Blue Jays has ERA of 4.89
Kazuhito Tadano - Traded to Oakland, released and is currently a free agent

What a group of misfits. I never knew how they were the best bullpen in the majors last year. I don't think they would have still been had they all stayed together this year. But that's not the point. The point is, the Tribe did have the best bullpen in the league and now only a few are left and they're either in the minors or hurt. And since the bulk of them were gone before opening day, there's no way to know if they could have still been the best.

Either way though, 2006 is over for the Cleveland Indians in large part thanks to this year's bullpen. Looking ahead, it would be nice if the Tribe added a bat in the offseason, and maybe a starting pitcher, but they're proving every day that the bullpen needs to be the center of attention this winter.

They have an offense that scores 3 or 4 or 5 runs a game, they have starting pitching that can go 7 and give up only 2 or 3. That's completely irrelevent if you don't have a few guys that can pitch an inning and not give up how ever many the other team needs.

All they have now is a recipe for ulcers and long sighs.


Date

Sat 08/05/06, 11:18 am EST


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Twins15Varsity Captain
1208 days ago
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Coming into the year I thought the Indians would win the Central and contend for the World Series... the offense is that good. If they can get any type of bullpen help in the offseason, there's going to be 4 really, really good team in the AL Central next year.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1208 days ago
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I too thought the Indians would win the Central. I bet they would look a lot better in the NL or the AL West.
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XinophDraft Pick
1208 days ago
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I thought it was interesting in the recent Sox-Indians series when they compared the two team's offensive stats, and they were almost identical......offense was clearly not the problem for the Tribe, but pitching and defense. I, too, thought the Tribe would contend for the division title this year, but of course I didn't see the rise of the Tigers coming. Some things I got right, like that the ChiSox would be slipping by the end of the year, but I clearly didn't know much about the Tigers.
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Twins15Varsity Captain
1208 days ago
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Yeah, I knew the Tigers were up and coming, but I figured they were at least a year away from being legitimate contenders, so I never saw anything like this coming. The young pitching has been better than advertised, and they've managed to stay pretty healhty.
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ASwaffAll-American
1208 days ago
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It might be a minor point, but it should be "would have, should have, could have." "Would of" doesn't mean anything.
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Davis21wylieMVP
1208 days ago
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Just thinking that myself.
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
1208 days ago
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Happy? You better vote for it now. :-)
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Twins15Varsity Captain
1208 days ago
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Well looks like it was the same old story for the Indians tonight. 3-2 lead heading into the 9th...only to end up losing 4-3.
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
1208 days ago
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I was just coming to add that. @#$) @#)*$ @)#(* @)@@@(%$*@#)*$ @
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FriskysmanVarsity Captain
1208 days ago
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Bullpens are notoriously inconsistent. They are the hardest thing to predict in baseball. In 2004, I liked the signings of Jose Jimdnez and Rick White but all they did was help that bullpen be one of the worst in baseball. The next year, White put up a 3.72 ERA with Pittsburgh. Jimenez hasn't pitched since then but I think it's safe to assume he would have won the Cy Young award in 2005 had he been pitching. In 2005 I did not feel very confident about the bullpen but it ended up being one of the best in baseball. And we know the story this year.

The point is, unless you're talking about the handful of elite closers like Rivera, Hoffman, Wagner, etc., the bullpen is just to unpredictable to throw lots of money at. There is nobody in the upcoming free agent class that is worth the money. That is why the Tribe went hard after B.J. Ryan and Hoffman last winter. I could see this same exact bullpen being dominate in 2007. That's just the way things tend to go. I would not waste a lot of money singing guys like Eddie Guardado but instead use the dollars to improve the defense and perhaps add a FOR starting pitcher. But if that fails, when you can't improve your runs allowed, you improve your runs scored. Sign Soriano/Lee!!!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1207 days ago
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F-man, take care of business in innings 1-7 and a "top flite closer" becomes easier to achieve by "regular short innings guy". Saves are by their very nature OVERRATED. As many games are saved as are decided early on. Otherwise good closers would average 70 saves every year.
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The sharkDraft Pick
1206 days ago
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Carmona looks to be quite the stud closer.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1207 days ago
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Man, at least the team has some youthful vigor and potential pieces; I've always been a closet Tribe fan (even bought a hat) after 'the Illy' doomed them in 1986. Long live Cory Snyder, Brook Jacoby and Luis Medina. 1997 was a total groinkick to the entire Cleveland region, a fanbase taht deserves better.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1207 days ago
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I completely did NOT hit enter more than once. I noticed sometimes, if you get impatient, it double posts, but I'm drunk right now, so I'm as patient as I ever get, so what's up here?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1207 days ago
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Man, at least the team has some youthful vigor and potential pieces; I've always been a closet Tribe fan (even bought a hat) after 'the Illy' doomed them in 1986. Long live Cory Snyder, Brook Jacoby and Luis Medina. 1997 was a total groinkick to the entire Cleveland region, a fanbase taht deserves better.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1207 days ago
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WRONG AGAIN Jerk@#!@##%^ Zzzzzzap the double posters!
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
1207 days ago
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nitpicking, but Tadano's playing for the Sacramento River Cats (and is not "currently a free agent.")
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
1207 days ago
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Ok, then MLB.com is wrong :-)
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
1206 days ago
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Love it when facts get a - vote. Shows true brilliance behind the clicker of the red box.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
1206 days ago
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That was for AF #1, by the way.
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