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Why Michigan has gotta get rid of 'ol Lloyd Carr

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by user The Beast

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If Michigan ever wants to get to the top, I mean a BCS, championship, they must get rid of Head Coach Lloyd Carr. Yes, I know Carr has already won back-to-back Big Ten championships (with only 3 competitive teams) in 2003 and 2004, I know he has a high winning percentage (b/c of the WEAK BIG ELEVEN Conference and WEAK out of Conference schedule), and that he won a national championship in 1997. That championship in ‘97 wasn’t a BCS Championship.

Yes, Carr is a good coach, I’ll give him that. (no he is not, he has NO SYSTEM) However, is he a great coach, a national title coach like Nick Saban SEC, Urban Myer SEC, Spurrier SEC, or Pete Carroll? Both of these guys could win the big game. I’m not sure that Carr can do that. In fact, he’s proven he can’t. Michigan has lost to arch-rival Ohio State three times in the past four years. Their only victory coming in a landslide in ‘03. He also has a losing record in Bowl Games, the Alamo Bowl this year, the Rose Bowl twice, and the Citrus Bowl a few years before. Why does he loose the big one? Conservative play calling is the answer my friend. Remember the 2004 Sugar Bowl? Saban sent multiple blitz packages at the Sooners, causing them to make mistakes. They were attacking first, not the Sooners. Remember the 2005 Orange Bowl? Norm Chow took advantage of every mismatch, even if ‘SC didn’t have a supporting cast, right Bob Griese. They were attacking too.

Lloyd Carr doesn’t attack, he plays conservatively and waits for his opponant to make the first move. He’ll punt for field position, kick a field if down by four, and run on 3rd & 22. They need to relax, it seems like he has a pole stuck up both buttcheeks afraid to make a move. By no means am I a Michigan hater. In fact, I probably like them fairly well. I would like to see them get rid of Carr, so they actually have a chance of winning the title.


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Fri 08/11/06, 6:52 am EST


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TartanVarsity Captain
1206 days ago
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Fire Lloyd Carr and hire John Cooper. You've got a long time for Carr gets canned. Cooper went 2-11-1 against that team from up north, and didn't have near the track record Carr has now.
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DrpatriotAll-American
1206 days ago
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As a Michigan fan, I couldn't possibly agree more. Thankfully, they gave him an ultimatum this year: 9 wins and beat Ohio State, or you're sacked.
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
1206 days ago
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Playing conservative and letting he opponent make the first move...yeah a coach can't win big games doing that...cough...Jim Tressel...cough cough...
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
1206 days ago
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Just goes to prove Barry Alvarez was the best coach in the Big Ten the last 15 years.
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
1206 days ago
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Just beat OSU, Im willing to accept an 8 win season if it means keeping OSU out of a BCS game.
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CochiseWaterboy
1206 days ago
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I go to Michigan and we ALL want Carr gone. He can't lose to Ohio State and lose a Bowl game year in and year out and expect to stay just cause he never has a losing season. He is a mediocre, by-the-books, type of coach and I'd rather have someone who is creative and can take us back to glory days again.


He HAS to be Ohio State this year. We have had the talent to do it almost every year he lost and this is his final year to do so.
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ChachiOSUDraft Pick
1205 days ago
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There is NO WAY that Michigan is coming into the Horseshoe this year and beating OSU so all of us here in Columbus wish Lloyd well in whatever he'll be doing next year at his new job.
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
1205 days ago
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Yup.
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Sports Writer06Waterboy
1205 days ago
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OK, I guess I'm the only one who is going to disagree w/ this. You say Carr hasn't won a National Title? Did you forget the '97 split title w/ Nebraska, w/ which they finsihed 12-0? Up until last year Michigan hadn't had a truly bad year. Speaking of last year, all the games Michigan lost, they should have won. In all of the 5 losses last year they had the lead going into the fourth quarter. Why did this happen? Lack of condition combined w/ yound players. Well guess what, all those young players are a year older, and w/ last years experience they'll know what to do this year.

You say Lloyd has been unsuccesful against Ohio State, and thats true (5-6 overall). But you seem to forget that he's led the Wolverines to four 10 win seasons in his tenure and has a .776 winning percentage, a 63-17 Big Ten mark, as well as 5 Big Ten titles. In my opinion the good out weighs the bad, which in this case is a poor record against their arch rival. I'll also throw this stat out there, Michigan has been ranked in the top 25 in all but 4 of their games unders Carr's reign, and in the top ten in 62 of them! So w/ all these impressive numbers, how can you say Lloyd must go?

With all this being said, look for not a decent, but a GREAT year out of this years Wolverines. If the injury bug doesn't bite this year, their running game will be one of the nations best. Not to mention they have a pretty damn good quarterback last time I checked. Sure he had somewhat of a "Sophmore slump" last year, but during that year he imporved on his TD to INT ration immensly. The defense also will be improved w/ new defensive coordinater Ron English at the helm, an aggresive rush the passer type of guy. You heard it here, Michigan will be back in '06.
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Dirtydeeds7
1143 days ago
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you cannot blame carr for not winning a BCS championship in '97. in 1997, the BCS did not exists yet, it was then called the Bowl Alliance and the Big Ten was not part of it so there was no way michigan could have won a bcs championship in '97
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Dirtydeeds7
1143 days ago
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you cannot blame carr for not winning a BCS championship in '97. in 1997, the BCS did not exists yet, it was then called the Bowl Alliance and the Big Ten was not part of it so there was no way michigan could have won a bcs championship in '97
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
819 days ago
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You can blame Lloyd Carr for the downfall and any losses of the wolverine team. He is CRAP. How do you lose to friggin Appalachian State. It proves to show how horrible he is as a coach. He is not in tact with today's game. Fire the loser. aaaaarrrrrggghhh!
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
819 days ago
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I am absolutely sick to my god damn stomach. I witnessed, what could possibly be the upset of the god damn century. Appalachian St? Where is it? Who are they? I had to leave work because i was so pissed off. I am still in shock from what i saw and still dont beleive it. All i know if Lloyd F!@#%N Carr isnt fired, whoever you are, FIRE HIS ASS, and if they dont, they are smoking some seriousy good stuff, and they should be fired to. Appalachian St. WHAT THE F!!K !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UNBELIEVEABLE!!!!!!!!!!! FIRE HIS ASS NOW!!!!!! Michigan will go nowhere as long as that crappy coach is there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Anonymous Fanatic #3
819 days ago
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M*ch*g*n Dudes and Dudettes... I was going to write something really funny, but I have erased it, you have my condolences - I was thinking we could meet again with both M*ch*g*n and Ohio State sporting undefeated records. But alas, App State ends your season before it really begins.

It will be interesting to see if your beloved blue can rebound from this loss... it is either going to go really, really well from here on out for you guys or the whole thing will collapse on this loss.

I like Hart's reaction post game, and if that holds up, you guys should be just fine.

Have patience, Cooper never won a National Title (although we got jobbed for the BCS appearence when FSU played TN, but I digress...), Cooper was no where close to par vs. M*ch*g*n...

So, all in all, have some patience, because this team will be much better then next year's team... next year's team better not have App state fill that open spot on the sked...

See you in November
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