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Why A-Rod might already be a Marlin...

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by Oscarbum

Hard to believe, I know. A team that had a $16 million total team payroll in 2006 will sign the biggest star in baseball for nearly twice that. But all the signs are there. And here's why:

1. The Florida Marlins are shopping Miguel Cabrera. Trading Cabrera does two glaringly obvious things that would open the door to A-Rod heading to South Florida. It eliminates what is likely to be a $12 million paycheck from the team's salary, cushioning the blow of signing Rodriguez, and it opens up third base.

2. The Marlins are shopping Dontrelle Willis. This idea makes little sense if the Marlins aren't trying for A-Rod. The Marlins get a huge jump in attendance when Dontrelle is pitching. Sure, they would save $8-9 million by getting rid of Willis, but he is probably the most popular player among Marlin fans. Getting rid of the D-Train without a marquee name in return makes no sense whatsoever. Particularly in a market as fickle as Miami.

3. A-Rod would love to play in his hometown. Sure, this may not be a huge factor, but it is there. He grew up here. He was a star for the University of Miami and, unlike in New York, the Marlins fans would treat him like Dolphins fans treat Dan Marino. No matter what kind of year Marino had, it was always the team around him that was at fault if they lost. Rodriguez would be treated the same way.

4. The Marlins need the new stadium. Signing Alex Rodriguez would go a long way to showing the ownership's commitment to putting a decent team on the field. It would also bring a lot of attention to the Marlins year round. A-Rod has a good season down here and SportsCenter would likely place Marlins highlights in the first half hour, instead of usually just throwing in a home run or two and cutting to the box score in the last five minutes. And without the new stadium, baseball in Miami is doomed. People just have no desire to go watch an unexciting team in 100% humidity and 90 minutes of rain delays. The new domed stadium is imperative.

5. The Marlins v. the Yankees the weekend before Opening Day. Why does this matter? That's my point exactly. Why on earth are the Marlins promoting a meaningless, preseason series FIVE months early? It was originally scheduled as a two game set, but I spoke with the Marlins' box office today and they are preparing to add a third game. I asked the person if the games were selling that well and their response? Not yet. So why would a preseason series against the Yankees matter? Because the Marlins don't face the Yankees in interleague play this year. And wouldn't everyone like to see A-Rod go up against the Yankees the year after he leaves? It seems that it would make a lot of sense to have the games all ready for sale if there was going to be an announcement made next week.

In short, after dumping the salaries of Willis and Cabrera, the Marlins' team salary would be in the $45 million range if they were to sign A-Rod. Certainly a workable figure given that they were willing to spend more than $60 million in 2005 and Carlos Delgado was the biggest name they signed. Not a ton of people rushing out to the park to see Delgado. But to see A-Rod? That is quite a different story.


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LASportsblogAAA-er
754 days ago
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Caberra and Willis for Esteban Loiaza, Juan Pierre and 3 prospects. LA gets it's 3b and SP help, FLA gets the money needed to bag A-Rod, prospects and two solid major leaguers in Loiaza and Pierre.
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ASwaffAll-American
754 days ago
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I don't exactly see the Marlins bringing back Pierre. And the Dodgers would have to offer some REALLY good prospects if the major leaguers they're offering are Pierre and Loaiza. Loaiza hasn't even been decent since 2005, and hasn't been good since 2003. And while Pierre is still putting up solid numbers (.293 BA, 64 SB and 96 runs last year), his .331 OBP doesn't really jump out at you. He hasn't had an OBP higher the .330s since 2004. You want a better OBP from your leadoff hitter, especially when he's not playing very good defense.


All that said, I still see a trade like this happening WAY before I see the Marlins getting A-Rod. Do the Dodgers have any serious prospects to offer that you know of?
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
754 days ago
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Seems fitting that A-Hole finish out his career playing in an empty stadium.
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ASwaffAll-American
754 days ago
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First of all, A-Rod wants somewhere around (perhaps above) $30 million a year. The Marlins are reportedly shopping Willis and Cabrera because they want to keep their entire payroll under $30 mil. Hard to do that when one player is making that kind of money.


Secondly, it wouldn't be at all out of character for the Marlins to trade Willis and NOT get a marquee player in exchange. You're talking about the club that traded Derrek Lee for Hee Seop Choi. You're talking about the club that traded Matt Clement and Antonio Alfonseco (the year after he set a team record for saves) for prospects (including Dontrelle Willis). They traded Luis Castillo, Moises Alou and Robb Nenn for prospects. The team similarly got then-prospects Derrek Lee and A.J. Burnett by trading their superstars. The Marlins have repeatedly traded superstars and NOT gotten marquee names in exchange. I don't know why you'd think it's a given that they would now.

I appreciate the thought, and it was a very interesting read, but there's absolutely no way the Marlins sign A-Rod.
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Bobbyjim45Draft Pick
754 days ago
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ZERO chance of this happening. The Marlins have a nice little system going right now. They build up their team with young prospects, who always turn out to be excellent. The new generation Marlins: Hanley Ramirez, Dan Uggla, Jeremy Hermida, Mike Jacobs, plus a bunch of upcoming guys we've never heard of. They'll take those guys and in a few years they'll win another world series with them. Once they get too good and want big money (Cabrera and Willis have reached this stage in the cycle) they'll trade them away for more prospects and start all over again. They've developed a system to win and still keep the payroll microscopic by solid scouting and having a knack for knowing which prospects will turn out to be great major leaguers.
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ASwaffAll-American
754 days ago
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True. I wish my Astros scouted half as well as the Marlins do. The guys the sign and continue to play just baffles me. Last year they traded two great pitching prospects for Aubrey Huff. This year they traded one of the league's best setup men, Dan Wheeler, for Ty Wigginton, who is average or just below across the board. They traded Willy Taveras and two prospects for Jason Jennings. They lost a draft pick to sign Woody Williams. And now, with a totally depleted farm system, I hear they're interested in older guys like Torri Hunter, Rowand, Schilling and Jon Lieber. I really wish they had the smarts of the Marlins front office, because I'm increasingly convinced that my team is being run by 14 year-old girls.
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WoodsmeisterVarsity Captain
753 days ago
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How would a new stadium change this equation? Would they have enough money to keep their free agents if they had a new stadium? How much money the Marlins are willing to shell out in salary to ensure that the public pays for the stadium and they don't? $30 million per for A-Rod is a whole lot cheaper than a new stadium - plus, if they sign A-Rod and people STILL don't come, then it's a whole lot easier for them to pack up the trucks and head for San Antonio. A-Rod already has proven he'll play in Texas if the money's good.
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MlnsportsVarsity Captain
753 days ago
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There is zero chance of this happening (See my comment below for why). As to the other replies here... The Astros dump prospects because Garner likes veterans. Phil has taken pitchers with .65 averages, dumped them in the Houston bullpen, had them pitch a few days, told them nothing, and shipped them back to Round Rock.. Frequently. The mushroom theory of management has not worked well for taking advantage of what prospects the club does have. As for what the stadium does to the equation of payroll, little to nothing. Loria is willing to lose most of the affluent households in South Florida that are largely in Palm Beach and Broward counties and build down in Miami at the Orange Bowl, or some other site that is nearly impossible to get to for 20 games per fan, the avereage split on a season ticket, just to get the cash that Miami will pony up to pay for the stadium. Out of the $445 million to build a modern ghost town in South Miami, Loria's contributions will largely be some rent and a few million to put the signage up. The rest of the money is coming from third-parties, the state, and the city. If the Fish were smart (a big IF) they would make a deal with Broward to have the Orioles do spring in their ballpark, and move the $30M set aside for the new spring facility for Baltimore into a bigger project to put a Fish Tank out on the Sawgrass Expressway or somehwere else in Broward where the majority of South Floridians with the cash and the ability to drive on $3.45 gas will come to watch a game.
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NejoshiDiv-I Stud
754 days ago
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Above all else, we all know A-Rod will wanna go to a hitter friendly ball park.
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ASwaffAll-American
753 days ago
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How do we know that? I haven't heard him say anything about that. You don't think he wants to go to a team that can contend?
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TrizzAll-American
754 days ago
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I dont think A-rod goes to FLA considering they are in a division where Philly, New York or Atlanta are all battling for position and could very well miss the playoffs, where on a team like the Dodgers they can easily take over the NL West
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
753 days ago
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But the rumors of the Marlins trading Cabrera and Willis existed long before Arod became a free agent.
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Tmil42AAA-er
753 days ago
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Willis should have been traded at least a year ago. His trade value is incredibly low right now, and I can't see them getting anything better than a B prospect back.
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NejoshiDiv-I Stud
753 days ago
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He's 22-27 in his last two seasons. Might do a little better on a more competitive team, but I agree, he's not even close to his 22 win season form of '05.
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MartyvburenSoccer Kid
753 days ago
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"Signing Alex Rodriguez would go a long way to showing the ownership's commitment to putting a decent team on the field." You forget, Marlins ownership doesn't care about putting a decent team on the field.
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ASwaffAll-American
753 days ago
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You mean they don't care about fielding big-name, overpaid players. The Marlins do great scouting and they've been dedicated to fielding good teams. However, that doesn't really stand up for the present argument, because they have typically dedicated their money to fielding a good YOUNG team of cheap players (recent exceptions being Carlos Delgado and Ivan Rodriguez, both of which lasted just a year). But, when they've recently won a World Series and fielded a team with guys like Willis, Cabrera, Ramirez, Uggla and Amezaga, I don't know how you can say they don't care about putting a decent team on the field.
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MlnsportsVarsity Captain
753 days ago
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The Marlins have fielded World Series teams on the cheap far better and more often than any other club in baseball. Stone cold fact. That they repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot on the marketing side of their business does not negate all of the top-drawer players that they have acquired as "nobodies" and had them produce results that even the bloated Yankee payroll could not achieve. Payroll and talent are not an equation, even though Boras, Fox and E-SPIN would like you to believe otherwise.
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Dcsundevil2002Div-I Stud
753 days ago
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I think that A-Rod will go to one of these four clubs: Cubs, Dogers, Mets, Yankees. Yes, the Yankees. Expect the two Junior Bosses to toss money at him in order to keep him. He is still the best player out there and they "need" him back.
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Oh No RomoDraft Pick
753 days ago
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Sweet, where are the Dogers from?
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Dcsundevil2002Div-I Stud
753 days ago
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Speling haas nevr ben a strong point in my gam. Dodgers/Dogers, who cares?  :)
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
753 days ago
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Most of the cuntry doesn't care about spelling!
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LASportsblogAAA-er
753 days ago
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Sprots This user apparently needs help spelling basic things.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
753 days ago
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Point of interest, A-Rod never played ball at the U. He enrolled but never even made it to his first class when he found out he got drafted #1.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
753 days ago
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Looks like Marlins are in housecleaning mode again...When are they going to get in a NL East division winning mode? Cabrera is going to be hard to replace. He has 138 home runs and 523 RBI's in about 4 1/2 seasons. Only seven active players have a better lifetime batting average than Cabrera. A-Rod or Lowell are the only free agent third basemen that could replace Cabrera and can't see either of them signing with Marlins.
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MlnsportsVarsity Captain
753 days ago
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According to a very good source that I have, and we're talking VERY GOOD, A-Rod wants to be in L.A. unless someone is willing to toss a whole lot more money at him in a bidding war. The Angels are the inside favorite, I'm told, but A-Rod added the Dodgers to the list since Torre signed on board last week. There is a cross-town talent war on in LA. Mikey S' Angels are the old Dodgers model: The power farm system that is talent up. The Dodgers are the Lost Blue Tribe. They have their roots, but they've been bleached so many times by Rupert Murdoch and Fox and then by Frank McCourt that I don't think that they have been fundamentally adrift for almost 20 years. Torre was brought in to find some shape for the Dodgers future. Pulling A-Rod into the traditional farm-driven system would say that Yankee-ball is coming to L.A., with all of its big signings to sell seats and subscriptions to MLB TV. While the Yankees are trying to find their farm system to hit the Red Sox blend, the Dodgers and the Angels are struggling to add more name-draw veterans to a mix of some talented newcomers. Also you have the cross-town war between the Halos and Blue. The Angels and the Hollywood Stars were the preeminent clubs in Los Angeles before Ford Fricke sent the Dodgers and the Giants out to California to sabotage the Pacific Coast League's ambitions of major league standing. Since then the Angels have been the perennial also-rans of the Greater L.A. area. If they grab A-Rod, a couple of other decent vets, and use the large pool of talent coming in from the Triple-A and Double-A, they have a chance to take back the mantle of top club in the L.A. market. The Dodgers not only showed weakness this year on the Major League level, but if you look at their Triple-A Las Vegas club, which had another disastrous year in spite of having some of the better players on paper on the farm, including MLN FAB50 players like Chin Lung Hu and Tony Abreu, or talented guys for whom 2007 was a so-so year like Loney and LaRoche, there is room for the Halos to pass up the Dodgers in the L.A. market.
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The PipDiv-I Stud
753 days ago
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Not a bad theory at all. He'll get people to the games, make the team marketable for either a new stadium or a new city and neither the team nor he cares about winning. I see the fit, now let's see if it happens.
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KelsdadAll-Star
753 days ago
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Loria gave Willis his word he won't be traded. I know we should take what an owner says with a grain of salt, but...

And even if he were to be traded, both Cabrera and Willis won't go in the same deal. They have more return value seperately than together.

Yankees and Marlins in serious discussions at the GM meetings about Cabrera, I'll have something on the subject later in the week.
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Tmil42AAA-er
753 days ago
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I'd have more respect for Loria if he didn't royally screw the Expos in order to come down and buy Florida's team.
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SportsGerbilJV Squad
753 days ago
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Can't see this happening.
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