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Who Sucks the Most? Jeter, Owens, Bonds, Redick, Kobe, Brady, A-Rod or Beckman

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by user Manny Stiles

We all know they're all over-rated and over-hyped and over-loved. There just doesn't seem to be enough discussion as to WHY they suck so much! We could point out the obvious; They all suck. But let's go into MORE depth here... so, let's crack open a case of "Haterade" and have at it!

Derek Jeter is the face of the Yankees and Avon. He never kicked a puppy on the field. He hangs with Jordan and broke up with Mariah Scarey. He has never won a World Series without Paul O'Neill's help. We credit Derek Jeter for his "clutchness" yet he has never produced well in a Game 6 or 7 in any postseason series. He's not the best shortstop in New York OR even in his own team! Yet we love him anyway. Plus his glove serves no particular purpose other than to distract us from his lack of an actual throwing arm. But WHY does he suck so much?

Terrell Owens completely sold out three franchises (working on a fourth), has a horse's ass for an agent and a mouth. He likes to dance, yap about loving him some him and works out whenever we are willing to have a camera ready. He has never been arrested for any real crimes, and is not very good at OD'ing. He signs autographs for his financial advisors. He's not such a bad guy if he writes children's books is he? Why does he suck so much?

There's sucky, suckier, seersucker and then there's THESE eight guys
There's sucky, suckier, seersucker and then there's THESE eight guys

Barry Bonds is a swell enough guy. He never raped anyone (that we know of). He's just like you and me - he HATES paying taxes. He has never failed a steroids test and he has never passed a pregnancy test. He is trying to surpass Hank Aaron on the all-time HR list. He makes for one mean looking Paula Abdul. Sure he's pissed off most of the time, but we should root for him to eradicate those old meaningless records we've had to carry around in our memory banks! Why does he suck so much?

J.J. Redick Redick is a nice guy. He went to a reputable and scandal-free Duke university. His little sister is well-liked throughout the ACC. People call him "JJ" even though his initials are J.C. He has no business in the NBA other than to allow people to blow by him and to collect guaranteed money from the Orlando Magic for three years. He writes poetry that pales in comparison to former Magic center John Amaechi. Why does he suck so much?

Kobe Bryant, well he didn't technically rape someone since the charges were dropped. He is as fake as fake gets when he imitates Allen Heckard. He called himself a Philly boy even though he grew up in Italy and went to high school in an affluent household in the suburbs. He socked Manu Ginobili in the eye and he's clearly VERY P-Whipped. So why does he suck so much?

Tom Brady is a lucky summanah. Drew Bledsoe got hurt and "Tom Terrific(ally lucky)" did his thing. He takes sloppy seconds from Leo so maybe that's why he sucks. He hasn't won a Super Bowl without Adam Vinatieri. He hasn't beaten the Colts in over three calendar years. Is THAT why he sucks so much?

Alex Rodriguez is handsome, paid handsomely and has a handsome resume to hand in to the Hall of Fame voters when he retires (even if he retired right now). He hasn't won an MVP award in OVER A YEAR! Sure he has the personality of a used tampon, but why does he suck so much?

David Beckman is new to the celebrity circuit. He is built like an imp, dresses like a colorblind fairy and talks like a elf that's a little too into Liberace. Apparently he likes to "bend it", but never breaks it. OK, he is somewhat of a bad-ass with that "fancy" tattoo work of his. But, no one ever heard of him until he married the almost-tolerable Spice Girl. Is that why he sucks? OH YEAH....


What do YOU think? Feel free to add your comments! (You know you want to...)


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ChristofMVP
1025 days ago
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Manny, I am not feeling any love from this article. May I add another name - Allen Iverson - Sure, he plays the game with lots of heart. But practice, we are taking about pracitce - practice leads to a championship, which A.I. will never have in his career.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1025 days ago
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ehhhh... Iverson actually produces results. He's not just a mythical creature of media lore. You're headed in the right direction, but I think he "stinks" more than "sucks".
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1025 days ago
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Practice just makes you a better practicer. I always sided with Iverson on that. It's why doctors and lawyers call their profession a "practice" (don't get upset, doctors and lawyers; you know it's true) Maybe there will be a "Who Sucks the Most:Tier II" someday.
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BU ICEMANJV Squad
1025 days ago
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I know we all need to watch this one more time: http://www.y...=eGDBR2L5kzI We talkin' 'bout practice!
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Cowboys suckPee Wee
1025 days ago
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from my username, you can probably assume who i think sucks the most: owens. i've hated this guy for a while now, even before he was a silly cowgirl. here are a few of the reasons why he sucks:

1. his performance in the superbowl a few years ago...every god damn reporter thought it was the most courageous thing ever for him to play with a hurt ankle. BUT, he only played because HE KNEW if he did well, everybody would think he's jesus and if he played bad, he could just blame it on a bum ankle.

2. for a guy to drop as many passes as he does, he is way too quick to call people out.

3. when insulting another player, he resorts to questioning a players sexuality (garcia) instead of commenting on their play

4. he is vicariously liable for his publicist saying "he has 17 million reasons to be happy" when asked why he would kill himself...what a twat

5. he's a cowboy
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1025 days ago
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+You may have just spawned a "Who's the Biggest Twat" article!
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BU ICEMANJV Squad
1025 days ago
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Manny, I think you got Barry Bonds and Wesley Snipes confused, it's Snipes that doesn't pay taxes. It's perfectly acceptable, because Snipes played a selfish asshole prima donna outfielder SF Giant in "The Fan"....it's easy to get the two confused.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1025 days ago
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Barry didn't pay taxes AND got ratted out about it by his on the side sumtin-sumtin
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Dev's AdvocateSoccer Kid
1024 days ago
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Not to mention his role as the fun-lovin, base-stealin' Willie Mays Hayes!
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EnyboDiv-I Stud
1025 days ago
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What about Sammy Sosa. He once left the last game of the year early becuase his suckiness was really bad that day. He sucks because he corked his bat but then answered all of the medias questions in perfect english telling us how he took the wrong bat and that it was only a batting practice bat. He sucks so much because he followed up both those fiascos by bringing a transalator to the congrssional hearings and pretended not to speak a word of english. I definitly think he belongs on this list.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1025 days ago
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To be fair, David Beckham can hardly speak a word of English...
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1025 days ago
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For all the criticism of Beckham, you cannot criticise his determination. Hugely over-rated though. He'd get a 95 overall, when he really should be an 85.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
1025 days ago
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I'd say pnatt sucks the most, though it's a close call btwb him and Manny Stiles...
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EnyboDiv-I Stud
1025 days ago
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Oh Snap! Manny, you gonna take that from an Anon?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1025 days ago
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Wooo... puh-leeze. I've said worse about myself than that on this site. (at least you spelled the name right, regular user who came weak with an Anon joke - if you were around for the pnatt err-a, sign in or Armchair UP already) Geez, if you want to insult me just call me a "Derek Jeter fan"!
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Mattv
1025 days ago
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I can't believe Brady was on this list. The guy won THREE Super Bowls, with MVP nods in 2 of them (and he should have been given the third one). Peyton didn't even deserve his SB MVP award.

"He hasn't won a Super Bowl without Adam Vinatieri." - He's only played ONE season without the guy.

"He hasn't beaten the Colts in over three calendar years." - Ehh... that's just wrong. Check your facts. Really.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1025 days ago
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They barely won each of their Super Bowls. He threw for 145 yards in the first one... O!F...

Vinatieri won a Super Bowl without him...

2005,2006,2007... that's 3 calendar years.
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EnyboDiv-I Stud
1025 days ago
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It can also be said that Peyton hasn't one a SB without Vinatieri. Should he be on this list?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1025 days ago
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OK, smarty pants. Tom Brady never beat Manning without Vinatieri, but Manning beat Brady without Vinatieri! Check and mate!
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False ProphetAll-Star
1025 days ago
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But Manning never beat Brady in the PLAYOFFS without Vinnateri. They are both equal as far as this list should go
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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That would be a fair argument (if you made the list). But as a Pats fan, you can't see how much Brady sucks. Sorry, but reigning Super Bowl MVPs don't suck (you're only as good as your last game).

In other words, the article you still "owe" me should clear up why Brady will never win another Super Bowl, right?

Message to all Pats fans - you're good at bumping your guns when things go good but why do you cower and hide from the light when the truth is exposed, like roaches?

Josh Q Public, why hath thou forsaken me?
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False ProphetAll-Star
1024 days ago
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I don't Manny. I see the patriots as a team that need a decent Defensive draft to become a good team again. I also see the Colts as a team with a young team nipping at their heels (VY's Titans)
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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I see the Colts as Super Bowl Champs and everyone else as "Not".
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False ProphetAll-Star
1024 days ago
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As far as your article goes Man Wags, the way I see it is that there are ways for me to not have to plain out say "I don't think Tom Brady will ever win another Super Bowl," but rather "There are some major road blocks that make it appear Brady will never win another Super Bowl"
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False ProphetAll-Star
1024 days ago
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As of Today, the Colts are the Best team in the league because everyone has the same rosters, and they are the current champs. That doesn't mean come September they won't have VY knocking on their door
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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If the Pats would have won, would you have accepted a "Tom Brady and the Patriots might be better than Joe Montana and the 49ers" article? Do whatever you want, don't write it if you can't. It's your <wink, wink> integrity on the line for accepting such a 'dangerous' challenge and not being willing to accept losing. ;D
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False ProphetAll-Star
1024 days ago
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The equivilant had the pats won it all would have been "I see this, this, and this in Brady and the Patriots seem to be better than Montana and the 49ers." It will be good Man wags, don't you worry
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Mattv
1025 days ago
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The Pats won the Super Bowl in the 2004 season, which was played in 2005. They beat the Colts 20-3 on January 16, 2005 in the Divisional Round of the Playoffs. One of the best playoff victories ever by any team (other than the Pats over the Rams in 2001, and the Colts over the Pats this year). Check your facts.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1025 days ago
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and for you...

Jan 16, 2005- Jan 15, 2006 - First calendar year. Jan 16, 2006- Jan 15, 2007 - Second calendar year. Jan 16, 2007- ???????????? - Third calendar year!!

Ta-dah!!! I win again!

Wanna bet they make it FOUR?
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False ProphetAll-Star
1024 days ago
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they have 2 years now, and come next season, the pats will win.
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False ProphetAll-Star
1024 days ago
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It was a toss up the 3rd time for Brady. As for Manning, I see why he got picked, but thought it should be a co-MVP for Addai and Rhodes. Both of those players mattered more than Manning.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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I thought Jeff Saturday played the best out of ANYONE in the Super Bowl. Yes, I enjoy good centering.
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False ProphetAll-Star
1024 days ago
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Manning is not nearly as talented as Brady. They are similar in the skill they show, but Manning throws his passes to Marvin Harrison (Future HOFer), Reggie Wayne (One of the best Wr's in the league), and Clark (Probably 2nd best TE in the league). Brady throws his passes to Jabar Gaffeny (Cut by the Texans and Eagles), Reche Caldwell (2nd best at San Deigo (to McCardell, who is not that great)), and Troy Brown (Maybe a tiny shot at getting into the HOF, but it is extremely unlikely)
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TartanVarsity Captain
1024 days ago
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Ever think those receivers are good because they get passes from Manning, making them look good.

Dallas Clark certainly isn't the 2nd best TE in the league, not even close

Your point that Brady has thrown passes to worse receivers isn't worth much, considering the Colts don't dump their players like the Patriots. Manning could possibly complete passes to anyone send-offs and former players, but that scenario hasn't occured, so you just don't know.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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Manning is "less talented than Brady" - excuse me? Do you say that with a straight face? Do you kiss your mother with those preposterous, oblivious to certain fact lips?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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Meanwhile, Manning threw to Addai 10 times in the Super Bowl and HOW many times to Harrison?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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Clark IS the second best TE in the league... with 14-20 guys tied for first, right?
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False ProphetAll-Star
1024 days ago
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Ahh...Maybe Harrison was part of the best WR draft class ever? And he was supposed succeed. Wayne is a toss up. Who, besides Gates, would you put ahead of Clark?

THe Patriots don't "dump" players. yeah, the patriots should have paid an aging David Patton as much as Washington has...that sure worked out well for them hasn't it? And of course the patriots should have pennied up to pay Givens a contract better than their best reciever at the time, right? Oh, Oh; The patriots really fumbled the ball with Deion Branch, who expected to get a contract from them for what again? One good game, and the rest of the time failing to get open in double coverage? OR THey should have not let Ty Law and his rich A$$ walk out when he wanted 12+ mil to "feed his family. Or they should have re-signed Duane Starks, the Corner that is less productive as a Corner than an LB would be. People overpaid for overrated Patriots. THe colts have a future HOFer, another top Tier WR, and an amazing TE. Brady's go to guy was cut by the Texans.

The point I'm making isn't that Peyton is not an all time great, but rather that if they were to switch teams, Brady would have the world kissing his a$$, and Manning would likely still be an HOFer, instead of the other way around. I say they are equal at the least
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EnyboDiv-I Stud
1024 days ago
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FP, you forget, the world was kissing Brady's ass for awhile. It's just that when you win so much you tend to get hated on. Majority of sports fans didn't like Manning until he became the "lovable loser" who couldn't win the big game, then people just felt sorry for him. I guarantee that if the Colts win again next year, people will start bashing Manning again. How much crap did he get last year after calling out his offensive line? People have short memories.
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False ProphetAll-Star
1024 days ago
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I mean ass kissing where Brady could do just about anything and still be considered good
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Mattv
1024 days ago
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I agree, I thought it was the lowest possible move by any QB in history when Manning called out the OL. Also, another reason why people started loving him is because ignorant people associate scoring with winning.
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TartanVarsity Captain
1024 days ago
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You uniformed Pats fans are ridiculous. It is a fallacy to look at it like how good Manning's teammates are, when they may be nothing without him. Pass catching is the most overrated thing in the NFL, by far. Look at the Lions, Mike Furrey, backup arena league safety suddenly had 100 catches this past season. Marcus Pollard had 12 catches no TDs this year playing for the Lions, somehow he wasn't drug down by Manning when he managed to catch 40+ balls a year in Indianapolis.

NFL players careers last very short, not signing players, or letting go of players after a few years of service is almost without question going to work out because they've aged, there are younger guys willing to do the job just as adequately. There isn't much to be said for Brady making them better, they were just younger and better players at the time they were on the Patriots.

In no specific list I'd put Crumpler, Gates, Gonzalez, Heap, Shockey (overrated but still better), Kellen Winslow probably, Jason Whitten, and some others in front of Dallas Clark. Heath Miller might be better than Dallas Clark. C'mon now, you're losing credibility with this stance you're taking

Dallas Clark didn't even lead the Colts TE in receptions this past year.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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The ONLY guy who can argue he's equal to Manning is Dan Marino. When Brady rattles off 3 straight years of +100 QB rating (Brady has never surpassed 100) and seven seasons of 4000+ yards, (Brady has ONE) THEN call me... Tight ends - Tony Gonzales? Alge Crumpler? Marques Colston? Kellen Winslow Jr? Todd Heap? Jeremy Shockey? Jason Witten? Randy McMichael? ALL had more yards and TDs than Clark... note: these are JUST the guys in the the top 50 in catches or TDs, there may be MORE!
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False ProphetAll-Star
1024 days ago
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I'll back off the Clark stance. But, Harrison was good before Manning, and Wayne is a toss up. I'd say he'd be good anywhere. Manning is a great Stat QB. He is proving he can be a good playoff QB that can handle the pressure and not spaz out. I go Montana, Brady, Manning, Elway, Marino as the pantheon of QB's
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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good call backing off your clark stance. however, Your QB Pantheon is weak if it doesn't have Johnny Unitas (the Babe Ruth of Football- the guy from long ago that destroyed the records and made the game popular).
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False ProphetAll-Star
1024 days ago
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Wow, I totally forgot about Unitas. I'd place him somewhere in the middle of Brady, Montana, and Manning. Where I don't know, but I'd have to think it'd be closer to Montana. Probably a very close second or first
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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NEVER forget Johnny U!!! There is NO NFL if not for him!
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False ProphetAll-Star
1024 days ago
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I know Manny, and I am ashamed to forget Unitas.
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Mattv
1024 days ago
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Is it cruel of me to hope Peyton starts riding motorcycles without a helmet?
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False ProphetAll-Star
1024 days ago
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No need, if the titans get a Healthy and Productive Givens back, and get a bit more Defensive help and a olineman or 2, I think they will give the colts a run for their money
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EnyboDiv-I Stud
1024 days ago
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I think the Titans will be better next year, but I still think they have a long way to go.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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I think a TRUE Patriots fan would be ashamed to be hoping for help from another team to help knock off a "rival". Five bucks says FP just assured the Titans will knock the Patriots out of the playoffs next year.
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False ProphetAll-Star
1024 days ago
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IF the Titans knock the pats out of the playoffs next year, it would be an amazing game. VY would probably have a Rose Bowl esque game that they won on some rediculous drive by Young as the clock reaches zero and he runs a 15 yard bootleg into the endzone for the game Winning TD. Should that happen, I'd declare VY god.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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Peyton Manning just beat the Patriots in the playoffs THIS year, in "the here and now", not the "what if?" Didn't even need a last second to do it... so HE is a god?
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False ProphetAll-Star
1024 days ago
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No, because if you read HOW I thing they would win the game, he would go for 500+yards on his own.
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ActiveSportsVarsity
1024 days ago
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In my opinion, it's a tough call between Kobe Bryant and Terrell Owens as to who sucks more.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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FINALLY, a voice with some reason!
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
1024 days ago
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jj is so hot!!! you suck!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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I would venture to say that JJ is "warm", not hot. As in BenchWARMer...
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
1024 days ago
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manny stiles sucks the most. literally
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Anonymous Fanatic #3
1024 days ago
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Finally. A voice completely full of reason.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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I have never met Donny Most (Ralph Malph from Happy Days). Literarily or literally? I'm guessing you meant both... thanks!
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Anonymous Fanatic #3
1024 days ago
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Worst. Joke. Ever.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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Least Original. Joke. Ever. - I guess you win, Anon!

I can get WAAAY worse than that... apparently, that's the Best. You. Can. Do...

Waaaaa waaaa... thanks for playing!
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Anonymous Fanatic #3
1024 days ago
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I wasn't joking, I was being very serious.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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Well, good job then Comic Book Guy... do you hear that? Xena, the Princess Warrior is calling for you from her laminate packaging!
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Davis21wylieMVP
1024 days ago
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"I told you, I'm not Xena. I'm Lucy Lawless."
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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I put it on the tee and you just crushed it!
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Buck FudderPee Wee
1024 days ago
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yeah bonds sucks...73 home runs.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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734 Home Runs, Buck, you forgot the FOUR on the end there...
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Anonymous Fanatic #3
1024 days ago
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yeah! 73 HR's AND a failed test for amphetamines and a perjury investigation.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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Ever had a Red Bull before 2004? YOU would have failed the test too.

ALL of baseball is currently under investigation from former Senator mitchell. Are you gonna throw EVERYONE under the bus too?

You're on a roll today!
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Buck FudderPee Wee
1024 days ago
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Bonds put fannies in the seats
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
1024 days ago
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I don't play in Major League Baseball, so I wouldn't have taken the test. I don't drink Red Bull because it's against my religion. But I was not aware that Red Bull contained amphetamines, are you sure about that.. You're the one who said he sucked to begin with, by putting him in the article.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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AND makes butts jump out of those revenue generating seats! (if even just to throw mock syringes on the field)
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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You also don't get paid MILLIONS of dollars to perform at the highest possible level you can. Drinking Red Bull (which used to include ephedra and still has a ridiculous amount of caffeine) is against your religeon? Are you Mormon?

The original Mormons who first settled Utah would drink coffee because it has caffeine, (Ummm, so does CHOCOLATE) so instead they made "Mormon tea" out of a plant that grew liek a weed all over the state. Yeah, that plant IS the ephedra viridis plant. The only North American plant that has ephedra in it.

Don't get me wrong, I think ephedra is a million times better than caffeine (other than you can make meth from ephedra), but why is one allowed, but the other is not? A stimulant is a stimulant...
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Anonymous Fanatic #4
1024 days ago
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No, I'm not a mormon. Ephedra poses various health risks that caffeine does not. But not sure I'm getting what your point is.
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Davis21wylieMVP
1024 days ago
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A Mormon? But I'm from Earth!
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Anonymous Fanatic #5
1024 days ago
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This is a fun guessing game, maybe Amish, no then you wouldn't have a computer...how about Scientologist?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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Caffeine is worse for you than ephedra. Unless you're a complete idiot like fat-ass Steve Bechler, who took SIX times the DAILY recommendation and worked out ina rubber suit AND didn't drink water.

Caffeine also destroys your adrenal glands, nervous system and liver.

Alcohol is worse than ephedra. Yet it's still legal.

I go off on tangents often, in case you didn't notice!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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Hare Krishna? Cubist? Ambiguous Inversed Apathetic?
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KelsdadAll-Star
1024 days ago
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The amount of caffeine in chocolate is miniscule, and energy drinks such as Red Bull are banned in some schools systems because it is considered a controlled substance. Matter of fact, in Rhode Island and Maryland, you can be arrested for DUI if you're under the influence of an energy drink. And where do you think the high comes from? It's not possible for the rush you get from these drinks to be stricly caffeine related, as it would cause your heart to palpitate and you would drop dead. So the actual high comes from other thing included. Ephedra's out, something else is in.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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Well, the FDA has banned several substances and supplements that occur naturally in food (tryptophan is banned!) and even some your body creates naturally
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KelsdadAll-Star
1024 days ago
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But you can almost never eat or drink anything that would cause a positive test. And any testing done has a built in curve to take into consideration naturally processed substances at their normal level. That's why Floyd Landis got busted, even taken into consideration the normal amounts of testosterone produced in the body, the amount in his system could only get there by doping. So his claim that his body produces the hormone at an abnormal rate didn't fly, because the test curve takes that scenario into consideration.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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yeah... Floyd Landis sucks.
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False ProphetAll-Star
1024 days ago
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The landis test is a fraud. Anyone with any knowledge of how steroids work would know that. He tested positive once for a banned substance, and it wasn't the day he made his miracle run. That means the level went up over one day. That is wierd because the way 'roids work is that they go on cycles, and it helps them over a longer period of time. It just doesn't make sense at all
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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he didn't take 'roids. he used EPO (which dramatically increases your stamina and lessens fatigue by forcing the red blood cells to carry more oxygen) and messes your hormonal balance temporarily which is why he had skewed testosterone levels, on an A and B sample from the day he made the time up. He blamed it on "shots of Jack Daniels" - ALL TIME lame excuse #8. He knew he was going to be tested and did it anyway. IDIOT.
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False ProphetAll-Star
1024 days ago
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I believe the test for the sake of it being a test, but why would it come up on only one day?
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KelsdadAll-Star
1024 days ago
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The FDA finally got its stuff together. Over the next few years you'll see fast food chains going bankrupt, and some items you take for granted at the supermarket will cease to exist. I wish they would do some things differently but after all the FDA is a political entity. Money talks, BS walks.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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They regulate too much. We need people to learn for themselves more than we need more regulations. If you need an agency to tell you what is harmful if you consume massive amounts of it, then you deserve what you get. BS is what makes money make the world go 'round... If you eliminate the warning signs then you will eliminate the stupid!
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KelsdadAll-Star
1024 days ago
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Thats all well and fine False Prophet, except Landis was banned for testosterone, not steriods.
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KelsdadAll-Star
1024 days ago
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From an outsider standpoint Manny, I can see why you think they regulate too much. In reality, they don't regulate enough. And your second sentence is the reason why, because people DON'T learn for themselves. And those that do, don't often care. If Taco Bell does a commercial for 99 cent burritos, the next day the line is out the door, with all everyone is thinking about is saving a buck fifty. And it has very little to do with stupidity and everything to do with ignorance. Like that idiot who sued McDonald's a few years ago because he didn't know eating there would make him fat. Dumbass.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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I just believe that America should be more like it was founded to be. To live free and enjoy the pursuit of happiness without the government poking into our business about everything.

It pisses me off that I can buy LETHAL dosagess of alcohol at any grocery store, but I can't have ephedra to keep me trim and alert without turning me into a caffeine addicted, sleepless quasi-epileptic.

We need less laws not more, but the dam has already busted once they started income tax. No one even questions it anymore, and it's absolute bullshit. They tax you for making money, then tax you for spending it. And if you buy something that you can turn around and sell to someone else, they tax it again. WTF? I pay taxes on my car and gas and insurance so I can go to work and get taxed and barely have enough left over to pay for my car and gas and insurance... This is not America, it's Taxonia! This is the isht we fought to rid ourselves from.

I can't even choose to NOT be taxed if I choose to give up my representation!

There's SO much money being made by filthy, soul-less, greedy pig-rapers that we could end hunger, disease, crime and pestilence and ALL live the phat life.

But alas, we would need to have everyone SHARE that vision. Since one person may be smart enough to solve the world's problems, people are always dumb enough to absolutely screw it up...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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and we pick our politicians the same way we pick our American Idols. (How long til an American Idol runs for office?)

We thumb through a bunch of amateurs who want to be famous and vote for the one that has "the look".

Democracy is great in theory but too many people don't vote and too few that DO vote, don't know who they're voting for. The 2 party system is a farce, the world is more than black and white, left and right, up and down, yea and nay. There's a different solution to every solution. And an alternative to every alternative.

Show me a politician that has his/her constituent's interests at heart and I'll show you A) a liar who is stuffing his/her pockets with special interest $$$, or B)someone who will never get anything accomplished, or C) someone who will be "eliminated" soon.

OK, that was fun. I'm off the soap box now! Vote for Manny Stiles in 2008!!!
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KelsdadAll-Star
1024 days ago
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If you knew what you were eating, or better yet, what was IN what you were eating, and what it does to you, then you wouldn't need ephedra. That's the ignorance part, eating and drinking to excess because you feel like it then relying on drugs to off-set the inevitable weight or physical problems. And the government has paid off enough Vioxx and whatever else lawsuits to know that banning this crap makes better sense for everyone, financially and health wise. Its easier and cheaper to send someone to rehab for obesity than rehab for drug dependency. And what are you going to do when ephedra doesnt work anymore? Increase your dose? Find something stronger? I know where you're coming from Manny, and at this time last year you would be 100% correct. But the new FDA rules are in place to protect the people who don't know or understand how things work, and to educate. And its the job of every nutritionist, dietitician, and health care professional to do the same, and be damned everyone who thinks these changes are politically or financially motivated.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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Well, you're right there. I should eat better, but I'm on the lazy side and ephedra was made for me. I burn plenty of calories with hyperactivity. But with 2 little ones keeping me up all hours, I could use a subtle pick me up and I react heavily to caffeine. Sweat, shakiness and it makes it impossible for me to fall asleep, which sets me into the caffeine cycle. Drink it in the morning, wai all day for it to kick in, get stuck awake all night, need caffeine again the next day... Ugh!

And I never took mass amounts of Ephedra, didn't need to. It steadied my energy level without getting rushy and I could fall asleep no problem! I get mad and sad thinking about it.

before you know it, there will be warning labels on bottled water explaining how you can die if you drink too much at once...
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KelsdadAll-Star
1024 days ago
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But ephedra and other diet drugs are speed, so if you already have a fast metabolism, you're actually stopping your natural adrenal production. So the drug SLOWS down your metabolism. To naturally increase adrenal production, eat bananas or other foods high in potassium. And believe it or not, one of the leading causes for weight gain is lack of or inconsistent sleep.
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Anonymous Fanatic #6
1024 days ago
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I love these Colts homers who think Peyton's stats have nothing to do with his receivers...I guess that's why those guys were top draft picks and average $6M-8M in the cap era. dumb.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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Explain the Lions recievers then, Amos Alonzo Stagg. If you don't recognize Peyton as a great quarterback then you don't know football, you only know bias. Peyton was a #1 overall pick himself for a pretty good reason.
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Dev's AdvocateSoccer Kid
1024 days ago
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Yea, and so does Anna Nicole Smith... She's now proven that Trimspa combined with alcohol and what ever her son was on don't blend well...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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her son was a heroine addict on methadone and a bevy of "prescription drugs"

Anna was depressed. Post-partum depression, drug issues of her own, poor self image, lack of confidence, she was battling over money, had the kid with her boytoy not her husband, and Valentine's day is coming. More people commit suicide in Feb than any other month.

At least Anna got the Astronaut chick out of the headlines!
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Dev's AdvocateSoccer Kid
1024 days ago
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Well, depressed or not. She's a leading example of what NOT to be like. Her complete disregard for life's responsibilities and actually working for what you have...it's no wonder why she suffered from depression. Honestly, having your entire life based upon get rich quick schemes and selling yourself out for a cheap dime'll surely build up your self-esteem and feeling of self-worth.

Additionally, the fact that she also lost a child (miscarriage) due to her drug/alcohol usage is completely lame. Talk about not only faceplanting your own life but also the lives of her son and her unborn child!

And in regard to her battling over money! It's not like she was poor. She had a career as a playboy playmate and a model in addition to getting at least 88 mil from her former husband. She was only battling over money, because she's greedy and felt that she put in the necessary "hours" for the rest of his billion.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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yeah, she definitely "sucks"...
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Dev's AdvocateSoccer Kid
1024 days ago
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Ok, sorry for the debby downer... Let's get back to talkin about sports. What about the OTHER sports teams in Boston, like the sucky ones, as in the Celtics and the Bruins, who're both racing for longest losing streaks in their respective sports...
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Dev's AdvocateSoccer Kid
1024 days ago
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Two former dynasty's reduced to scrounge for hopefully bigger chances at higher draft picks...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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retribution from the sports gods on Boston fans for their mishandling the Pats run and 2004 World Series.

They just wanted to overcome New York once, then they turned into smarmy New York fans, but worse... enjoy the dregs! Wicked Awesome, guy!

Word to the wise, ENJOY winning it all, never expect it.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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and DON'T film sham movies during the on-field celebrations!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1024 days ago
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Let's start calling it the "Curse of the Sports Guy"! (even though his real name is "Entertainment Guy"
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Anonymous Fanatic #7
965 days ago
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Kobe's the BEST!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
965 days ago
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at sucking? Hmmm... you may... be... right....
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