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What if the NFL Used the BCS? Week 6 2006 Results

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by user DNL

     
  There shall be a regular season, and at the end of yea season, those records shall be ignored, and the experts and computers shall make a pronouncement from up on high, deciding which two gladiators shall do battle in the dead of winter for the title of champion. And to hell with the other teams.  

The BCS is, for many, the bane of the college football season. Nevermind the fact that your school was awarded its only loss on a terrible officiating call -- that one faux pas means a trip to the Chuck's Diner and Car Wash Bowl. 'Tis a silly thing, leaving the masses clammoring for an NFL-style playoff.

But that's boring. What if NFL fans started their own uproar, and asked for -- nay, demanded a BCS-style system for the 32 pro teams? What would happen?

Well, let's find out.

Methodology

The regular BCS formula can be found here. I adapted it significantly because (a) it's really hard to do what they do when you're working with only Excel and 10 fingers and 10 toes and (b) because there are few group polls out there, and the one that does exist just publishes the final ranking. (Maybe ArmchairGM needs an NFL power poll. That'd be good.)

Anyway, here's what I did.

Part 1: The Poll

I used ESPN's. They have multiple voters. They're ESPN. Fine. They're 50% of the ranking. They should be 33%, but I couldn't find another good human poll.

Part 2: The Computers

They're not all computers. They're objective measures -- make up a formula, stick in the data, out pops some rankings. Here are the six I used:

  • CPU-1: Jeff Sagarin, because he's BCS computer. I used his "ELO CHESS"/"PURE POINTS" mesh, which he calls "RATING."
  • CPU-2: Football Outsiders, because they actually know what they're talking about.
  • CPU-3: Sonny Moore, because he's been doing this for years, and still uses AOL as his web host, which is weird.
  • CPU-4: Some guy whose website I can't find. My spreadsheet crashed while I was making this, and I hadn't pasted in the URL. I'm going to use Mike Greenberg next time, but as of this writing, he hadn't updated yet. (Ed: Uh, he updated as I typed that. Crap. Well, I'm not re-running the data.)
  • CPU-5: Mr. Coffey, because he has been doing this for years, too.
  • CPU-6: Davis21wylie, ArmchairGM user and statistical dynamo.

The "computers," so to speak, count for 50% of the end result total. So, each one counts for about 8.33% of the whole.

The Rankings

TEAM		ESPN	CPU-1	CPU-2	CPU-3	CPU-4	CPU-5	CPU-6	CPU-A	AVG.
Bears		1	1	2	1	1	1	2	1.33	1.17
Chargers	3	4	1	2	3	3	1	2.33	2.67
Colts		2	5	13	4	4	2	8	6.00	4.00
Saints		7	3	10	5	16	4	7	7.50	7.25
Eagles		9	8	3	3	10	10	4	6.33	7.67
Broncos		4	14	12	15	2	5	22	11.67	7.83
Seahawks	5	6	16	8	9	6	20	10.83	7.92
Patriots	6	15	11	9	5	7	16	10.50	8.25
Ravens		10	9	7	6	13	9	5	8.17	9.08
Giants		11	2	5	10	11	8	12	8.00	9.50
Panthers	8	11	14	18	7	12	13	12.50	10.25
Jaguars		13	7	4	7	8	11	9	7.67	10.33
Bengals		12	12	15	12	12	17	17	14.17	13.08
Cowboys		15	13	6	11	15	14	10	11.50	13.25
Rams		14	17	9	19	20	16	3	14.00	14.00
Falcons		16	10	20	13	19	13	6	13.50	14.75
Steelers	17	18	8	14	6	18	18	13.67	15.33
Vikings		18	16	19	17	17	15	14	16.33	17.17
Chiefs		20	19	17	23	14	20	23	19.33	19.67
Jets		19	20	27	16	22	19	24	21.33	20.17
Redskins	21	23	18	24	18	22	15	20.00	20.50
Bills		23	22	21	21	21	21	26	22.00	22.50
Bucs		22	21	23	22	24	23	29	23.67	22.83
Lions		25	25	22	29	27	28	21	25.33	25.17
Dolphins	27	30	24	28	23	31	11	24.50	25.75
49ers		24	29	29	26	30	27	25	27.67	25.83
Cardinals	29	27	25	20	28	25	19	24.00	26.50
Browns		28	24	28	25	25	26	31	26.50	27.25
Titans		26	28	30	27	31	29	27	28.67	27.33
Packers		31	26	26	30	26	24	28	26.67	28.83
Texans		30	31	31	32	29	30	32	30.83	30.42
Raiders		32	32	32	31	32	32	30	31.50	31.75

Observations

The big one: Peyton Manning goes undefeated, yet still manages to choke, failing to reach the Super Bowl.

I mean, how perfect is that?

The smaller ones?

  • The real BCS has room for 8 "BCS Bowl" teams. The Saints would make it, if the BCS took the top 8. But the BCS never takes the top 8. They have to take a Big East team, which is code for "sucky team," instead of the shockingly good top 8 team. In this case, I suspect you'd see the Cowboys taken by whatever bowl took the Eagles. TO Bowl, Part 3, and all that stuff.
  • Why does ESPN hate the Jaguars? The computers are all over the place generally, but the Jags are never below 11... yet ESPN puts them at 13. I mean, the team exits a rough opening schedule at 3-2... and for that, gets #13. It's unlucky and too low.
  • ESPN hasn't bought into the Saints yet, either, but in the Leader's defense, the computers are mixed on that one, too.
  • Jeff Sagarin has two metrics, "ELO CHESS" and "PURE POINTS," as noted above. He averages them to come to his "RATING" metric. What do those mean?
     
  In ELO CHESS, only winning and losing matters; the score margin is of no consequence, which makes it very "politically correct". However it is less accurate in its predictions for upcoming games than is the PURE POINTS, in which the score margin is the only thing that matters. PURE POINTS is also known as PREDICTOR, BALLANTINE, RHEINGOLD, WHITE OWL and is the best single PREDICTOR of future games.  
My take? If you are offering objective analysis, don't insert your opinion. Oh, and Rheingold is a beer, which would explain how his "best single predictor" has the Bengals as the 6th best team, while the Patriots, who whooped them, are 18th -- three behind the 2-3 Chiefs. Hmm.
  • A perfect score is a 1. A perfectly bad score is a 32. The Bears are .17 away from a perfect score. The Raiders are .25 away from a perfectly bad score. In case you were wondering.
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IcemanvtWaterboy
1138 days ago
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"Why does ESPN hate the Jaguars? The computers are all over the place generally, but the Jags are never below 11... yet ESPN puts them at 13. I mean, the team exits a rough opening schedule at 3-2... and for that, gets #13. It's unlucky and too low."

It's probably the same problem that all polls have. ESPN's pollsters probably had Jax lowly regarded and are loathe to change their opinion. It's the same problem the college system has. A team lower ranked in the preseason has a harder hill to climb to get to #1 or #2 than a team starting at #1 or #2. All a team starting at the top has to do is not fail. A team starting at the bottom not only has to not fail, but hope that teams above it fail. Otherwise they're still at the bottom.

Throw in that the Jags are "only" 3-2 and pollsters aren't going to change their minds as quickly as the computers, which don't have the biases, do.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
1137 days ago
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This guy is clearly biased. Anyway Fox Sports also does a power ranking for the NFL. http://msn.f...owerRankings - Also as terrible as the BCS is, the computers would never rank an undefeated team from a major conference as low as 13th, and no the Big East as a whole is NOT a major conference.
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The sharkDraft Pick
1138 days ago
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Awesome stuff, DNL.

I don't think there are many BCS proponents out there, but if there are, someone should turn them on to this. This is as good an example I've ever seen as to why the BCS sucks and needs to be scrapped.

BC$ This user thinks that College Football needs to dump the BCS in favor of post-season playoffs.



{{College Football playoff Fan}}
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J CunninghamVarsity Captain
1137 days ago
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I'm half-tempted to put that in my user page.
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The sharkDraft Pick
1137 days ago
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Do it!!!
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J CunninghamVarsity Captain
1137 days ago
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Done!
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The BeastAAA-er
1138 days ago
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Saints would be in no matter what. The NFL could use the cash they'd generate as the feel good story of the year. Similar to Notre Dame in how they always get in because they are a money maker.
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J CunninghamVarsity Captain
1137 days ago
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Did...did you just say the NFL could use the cash? Wow, I didn't realize the most popular sport in America was so hard-up for money...maybe they will adopt a BCS-like format, after all.
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The BeastAAA-er
1137 days ago
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People with money always want more.
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J CunninghamVarsity Captain
1137 days ago
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Big difference between "want" and "could use."
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The BeastAAA-er
1138 days ago
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BCS This user thinks that the BCS is good for College Football.
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The sharkDraft Pick
1138 days ago
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Why does that not surprise me, Beastie?
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M.SmithSoccer Kid
1138 days ago
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My favorite number on this whole thing is Broncos Computer 6 ranking - #22.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
1137 days ago
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Spoken like a Chieves fan!
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The BeastAAA-er
1138 days ago
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Remember that before we had the BCS we had no National Title Game. For example without the BCS than USC and Texas could not have faced off in the Rose Bowl. Instead USC would have played Ohio State in the Rose Bowl while Texas would have played Georgia in the Cotton Bowl. For our intended purposes, lets say USC and Texas both win their respective games. The polls would have likely kept USC at number one. We all learned last year that Texas was better than USC. While I may not love the BCS to death I realized that you can't blame them for lack of a playoff system. The BCS is better than what we had before, but not as good as a playoff. We're moving in the right direction.
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M.SmithSoccer Kid
1138 days ago
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Thankyou for stating what so many CFB fans forget. Its tons better than pre-BCS despite all the complaints!
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CochiseWaterboy
1137 days ago
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Just cause its better doesn't mean its right. I really don't see why a playoff system is so far. Top 4 team face off in a 2 round playoff, you only need one more game. Fans want it, players want it, it'll make more money. I don't understand why they are fighting so hard against it.
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Anonymous Fanatic #3
1137 days ago
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Texas wasn't better than USC last year...Vince Young was. Do you honestly thing Texas stood a chance if Vince Young wasn't the QB?
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Sports Writer06Waterboy
1137 days ago
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^^ that was me
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The sharkDraft Pick
1137 days ago
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Of course Texas was better than USC. You can't just take a guy off a team and say they're only better because of "X". USC would have lost at least two games with Reggie Bush. Dukeboy, was that you?
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The sharkDraft Pick
1137 days ago
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Oops - without Reggie Bush is what I meant - obviously.
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MikeBriggsVarsity
1137 days ago
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Replying to a reply, yet says replying to TheBeast. Re: Cochise: "Fans want it, players want it, it'll make more money. I don't understand why they are fighting so hard against it." - The people that "own" the bowls really like the huge wads of money the make with the BCS, and fear they would make less with a playoff system put into place. Oh, and great article.
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Anonymous Fanatic #4
1129 days ago
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I agree you have to start some where but the biggest problem with the BCS is it works well until there is 3 deserving teams and right then and there its useless. But even if they ever do go to a playoff there will be teams, people complaining because they got left out. It will never be perfect but it is far better than it was. Great Stuff
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The BeastAAA-er
1137 days ago
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For some reason they forget, but it was only 8 years ago.
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Davis21wylieMVP
1137 days ago
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Re: DNL - Nice work, thanks for using my thingamajig in the poll. Sorry, just wanted to get the word "thingamajig" in there somehow. Re: BCS - It's true, saying "I hate the BCS" (something I've been known to say in the past) is an oversimplification. I like the way the BCS uses objective means like computer rankings, whereas the old system used human polls. I like the fact that with the BCS, at least you're going to get some kind of National Championship-worthy matchup in the title game. It's a huge improvement over the old Alliance/Coalition, each of which were themselves improvements over the long-standing "vote 'em up" method. But it is to blame for the lack of a playoff. It's a roadblock along that path -- as long as the BCS conference presidents can make it look like it's doing the job, they'll never move on to a real playoff. They loves them the money (and who doesn't, really?), and it's going to take a lot to break up their own little monopoly on TV contracts, etc. I guess my biggest complaint with the BCS is that it's so close to a playoff; all you have to do is add a few more teams into the mix, and I'm satisfied. But it's not a playoff. And that's what's frustrating: if we can come this far, why can't we go all the way? Really, other than the money, what's stopping a playoff from happening? That's my complaint.
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The BeastAAA-er
1137 days ago
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Couldn't agree more. Why couldn't they use the BCS to come up with four teams, and have a 3 game playoff. Don't blame the BCS, blame the university presidents who claim that a playoff would harm the students' academic workload. Do you think that Chad Henne, Troy Smith, Adrian Peterson, and the rest of the student athletes would be effected by one extra game. This extra game would only be for two teams.
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Srtellis4585JV Squad
1137 days ago
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I've said it for years. The BCS is a great tool. It's the use of the tool that is wrong. You wouldn't use a hammer to check tire pressure. Ok, at least you shouldn't anyways. Use the BCS as a tool (similar to the RPI for college hoops) in determining teams for some sort of playoff system, and that'd be fine with me.
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The BeastAAA-er
1137 days ago
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Exactly my point. It should be used like the RPI to help determine playoff teams (4-8).
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The BeastAAA-er
1137 days ago
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Sorry, DNL. I didn't mean to lose focus on the article. It was an NFL opinion. Only if the Packers were having a good year.
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DNLLegend
1137 days ago
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Didn't lose focus at all, no worries.
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ASwaffAll-American
1137 days ago
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That was a great article. Kinda surprised at how low New Orleans is.
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Swilson3Waterboy
1137 days ago
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"those records shall be ignored" - The records have a huge say in how the computers will rank teams - in fact, they are the only "input" - besides who played who - to make in into a formula, so I don't know how you could say they are "ignored"... if anything traditional biases are what is being ignored.
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DNLLegend
1137 days ago
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Except that they're not dispositive of anything. A team can win all their games and have no shot at a title, and regularly, 9-3 teams make BCS games while 10-2 teams do not.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1137 days ago
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The answer to all this is a promotion/relegation style system. That way, the top players in the country all play each other.

If you had, e.g. 12 teams, you could get 11 games per season, and the winner wins the division. Have the winner go up and the last place go down, jobs a good'un.

That's the advantage of the English FA Premier League style of doing things.
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PnattRed-Shirting
1137 days ago
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It wouldn't work in American football.
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PnattRed-Shirting
1137 days ago
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Now I understand how it works!! In the top division of college football they have polls to determine the two teams that play for the national title, and that's how there's no playoffs!!
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Anonymous Fanatic #5
1137 days ago
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GO SEAHAWKS WHOOOOO
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Anonymous Fanatic #6
1137 days ago
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Can't find another human rating? Dr. Z on SI.com.
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DNLLegend
1137 days ago
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I found a lot of human rankings. What I couldn't find was a group human poll. The AP and Harris polls are done by many votes, not just one. I'm not going to take the time to add up Dr. Z and five others.
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Spaulo
1137 days ago
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Take this a step further... split the 32 NFL teams into the 6 BCS Conferences... say, 6, 6, 6, 5, 5, 5... Like, the Pac-10 could be SF, SEA, SD, OAK, and AZ... SEC could be MIA, TB, ATL, NO, HOU, JAX... etc. Then match them up (and remember, *10* teams qualify for the BCS this year, not 8)
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DNLLegend
1137 days ago
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When I first did the NFL BCS in... 2002? 2003? I tried to do that. It doesn't work well unless you set up the conferences well in advance, because otherwise you naturally bias your selections.
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Spaulo
1137 days ago
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If you stick to geographics alone, it would be as fair as setting it up ahead of time... the Pac-10 is in the west, the Big XII is mountains/texas/etc, Big Ten is midwest, SEC is southeast, ACC is along the east coast, and Big East is northeast... this would work. I'm sure of it.

In fact...

Pac-10: SD, SEA, SF, OAK, AZ Big XII: DAL, DEN, STL, KC, HOU SEC: TB, MIA, ATL, NO, TEN, JAX Big Ten: CHI, DET, MIN, CIN, CLE, GB ACC: BAL, WAS, CAR, NE, IND Big East: NYG, PHI, BUF, NYJ, PIT

Done and done.
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DNLLegend
1137 days ago
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You have PIT in the Big East, which doesn't really make sense geographically. If you're basing that on the fact that Pitt is in the Big East, well, shouldn't Miami then be in the ACC? Or the Colts in the Big 10? And Cincy in... the Big East?
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Spaulo
1137 days ago
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After thinking about it, IND in the ACC makes less sense than PIT in the Big East... afterall, Pittsburgh is in the Big East, as is WVU... not sure why that doesn't work geographically. One I would actually change though is take IND out of the ACC and swap it with one of the New York teams... split them up for fun's sake, and since they're actually on a coastline, one can be in the ACC. Honestly though, I see no problem with PIT in the Big East.
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PnattRed-Shirting
1137 days ago
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An ideal solution to the BCS problem would be just to have 2 teams altogether!!!
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Anonymous Fanatic #7
1137 days ago
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Hell yeah. San Diego Super Chargers!
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Anonymous Fanatic #8
1137 days ago
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"Dr. Z" also posts power rankings on SI.com
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Anonymous Fanatic #9
1136 days ago
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Fuuny that you would call a conference (Big East) with three undefeted teams (WVU, Lousville, and Rutgers) four teams in the top 25 (add Pitt) and two of the best teams in the country (WVU, Lousville) a sucky conference especially since WVU and Lousville are in the "top 8" shockingly good teams catagory.......nice try but next time try to get somewhat of a clue.
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Anonymous Fanatic #10
1136 days ago
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I was thinking the same thing man...This dude is a joke
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Anonymous Fanatic #11
1136 days ago
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It is very simple, actually. Two trophies. One for a regular season champion, based on a BCS style system. One for the winner of the National Championship Tournament. The problem you doofi don't seem to grasp is that a simple playoff cheapens the regular season for those of us who are fortunate enough to support teams in real conferences. Then the truly great teams will stand out, the ones able to capture both crowns in a year.
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DNLLegend
1136 days ago
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This is the first year in a long time that the Big East was any good. If I said the ACC, the complaint would have been "this is the first year in a long time that the ACC sucked." So, I went with historical instead of a flukey single-season.
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Anonymous Fanatic #12
1136 days ago
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I'm not sure how this is the first year in a long time that the Big East was any good. VT played in the 1999 season's BCS title game, and Miami in 2001 and 2002, while part of the Big East. The past couple years haven't been pretty, but WVU and Louisville are both programs on the rise that look like they will be forces in the future. Rutgers and Pitt both look good. This year, I'd take the Big East over the ACC or Little 12. Sure, they lost their two old powerhouses to the ACC, but I'm not sure their two new powerhouses won't be as good in the future.
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DNLLegend
1136 days ago
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VT and Miami are two teams in a conference formerly of what, 12? 14? I'd have to look it up. WV and Pitt were both decent during that period. But compare that to the SEC, Big 12, etc., and it's not really a fair comparison.
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Anonymous Fanatic #13
1136 days ago
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Nobody compares to the SEC, but the Little 12 has been Oklahoma, Texas, and Nebraska, a few teams that show up every three years or so, and the scrubs in the Big 12 North. Also, show me how the Big East has compared unfavorably with the Pac 10.
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Anonymous Fanatic #13
1136 days ago
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Oh, and the Big East only had 8 schools when BC, VT, and Miami were in the conference.
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