What's Wrong With Eli?

Nah. He is not a drunk. Just a guy who used his last name to get where he is at. He is not a good QB. If he was named anything but Manning, he would have been a mid-draft selection. He is what he is.

Dennis Green might say - HE IS WHAT WE THOUGHT HE WAS!!!!

That was great ASwaff. They must have seen him in the preseason.

That's true about Peyton, but he also had fewer weapons around him than Eli did. Peyton went into a true number-one draft-pick team that needed a year or two to acquire some weapons to help him progress (see Edgerrin James). But Eli went into a situation with a team that TRADED for him, and he's had the benefit of playing with offensive weapons like Toomer, Burress, Barber and Shockey. Eli isn't hurting for support the way Manning was his first few years.

But I've never understood the hype around Eli. All throughout college, they maintained that he looked better than Peyton, even though he never played as well. He had accuracy issues in college, and I felt he never played to the level Peyton did in college. So, I don't know why we'd be surprised that he's not at that level right now. It's still early, and he's suffering from some unfair expectations because of his older brother. But, frankly, I've felt all along that he was overrated. And only time will truly tell which team got the better deal, but with San Diego getting Rivers, Kaeding and Merriman out of that trade, the Giants look awfully stupid right now.

What you say is certainly true, ASwaff, but there is a HUGE difference trying to play in Indianapolis as opposed to trying to play in New York.

That's true, and I'm taking the extra media pressure into account when I say that we need to give it time. I'm just saying that from the time he was in college, I've never understood the hype. Maybe he'll prove me wrong. Philip Rivers and Tony Romo certainly have (again, so far).

New York is a tough town. I think the baseball players, however, are under more of a microscope then football players.

Definitely, Awrigh. Although, I don't see what that has to do with the conversation at hand.

WHAT!! Peyton had fewer weapons??? What was Marshal Faulk??? The Giants SUCK!!!, they cant block, tackle, they jump off sides. I cant see how any of these guys got to the NFL. What was that love pat on Young last week? Other than Barber the Giants are pathetic and yeah if Eli had stuck with San Diego he would have been much better off.

The way they wasted draft choices on Eli just shows why the Giants have had problems reaching the playoffs.

bullseye.