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Weis Playing Favorites?

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by The Beast

Weis described Clausen's citation as a lack of knowledge.
Weis described Clausen's citation as a lack of knowledge.

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Two months ago, on June 23rd, Notre Dame Freshman Quarterback Jimmy Clausen was cited for transporting alcohol as a minor. Indiana State Excise Police cited the freshman quarterback outside a liquor store about 10 p.m. on a Saturday night near the Notre Dame campus along with a 23-year-old who bought two bottles of vodka, a bottle of whiskey and a case of beer.

On Monday, Notre Dame Head Coach Charlie Weis was very understanding of Clausen's mistake saying, "I think it's out of ignorance -- and by ignorance I mean lack of knowledge. I don't think he was defiantly trying to get himself into trouble with the law."

Weis said he himself didn't know that it was illegal for an underage driver to transport someone who is of legal age to a liquor store to buy alcohol.

Overall, Weis seems to be taking it a little easy on his young quarterback. Instead of scolding Clausen and suspending him for a certain period of time, the coach placed the blame on his ignorance. Every person is ignorant to a certain point, but the average driver is expected to know what the rules and regulations of the road are, including Jimmy Clausen. Transporting alcohol as a minor if convicted is still a misdemeanor crime, whether Weis agrees with it or not.

While Weis, continued to belittle the citation, defensive lineman Derrell Hand, awaits his fate from the school in the next few days due to a misdemeanor charge of propositioning a prostitute. As a result of the arrest, Hand was suspended indefinitely.

The two scenarios are similar, but they have gone in different directions. Neither Clausen nor Hand were convicted of a misdemanor. However, Hand was the one who was suspended while Clausen remains scotch free. It seems to me that Weis may be playing favorites. What do you think?


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IbeargRed-Shirting
815 days ago
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are you kidding me? to compare having alcohol in a car to soliciting a prostitute is ridiculous. One is illegal no matter your age and with possibly a few small exceptions in every state, while the other is legal for those who are of age and rules differ from state to state. Lets also not try to act ignorant about the fact that college kids many of whom are underage drink alcohol and doing so is really not a big deal. I'd venture to say most successful adults did so themselves as college students. Clausen wasn't even caught doing that... simply transporting it with someone of age. on the other hand most college students do not solicit prostitution... at least to my knowledge
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False ProphetAll-Star
815 days ago
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Claussen did something that is not known to be illegal. As for Hand, there's no plausable way that he can say he didn't know that propositing to a porstitute was illegal
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JuTMSY4Legend
815 days ago
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Legally, you're probably right...from a common sense point, you know its total BS...
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KelsdadAll-Star
815 days ago
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You're kidding, right? Of course he knew it was illegal, otherwise he would have just walked into the liquor store and bought the stuff himself. Biggest game in history for someone underage..have someone older buy it for you. Comes with a payoff, like paying for his stuff too, but even Moses had someone buy his wine when he was younger.
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False ProphetAll-Star
815 days ago
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chances are he wanted the booze for himself, but I doubt he thought he could get busted for someone to legally buy it, and transport it in his car
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KelsdadAll-Star
814 days ago
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Purchasing liquor for a minor is illegal, as is any other act subsequent to it. The reason it's turned out the way it has so far is the guy who bought/transported the liquor broke the law, not Claussen.
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ChristofMVP
815 days ago
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Notre Dame is going to get smoked this season. If they make it to a bowl, which is not a 100%, written in stone, situation, they will lose the non-Jan. 1/ BCS bowl.
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DwalbertVarsity Captain
814 days ago
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if they make a bowl this season they make it because theyre notre dame, not because they deserve it.
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JuTMSY4Legend
815 days ago
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First of all...this is total bullshit...

1) He was transporting alcohol my ass...someone was buying it for him...

2) Who gives a damn...he's in college...get used to it...if you didn't drink in college...well you didn't go to the right college!

3) Its definitely not the same as soliciting a prostitute...not at all...

4) Get off your high horse here man...ever think that Weis was maybe just cutting the kid a little slack...how many students and/or athletes have had this happen to them...and the police just stick it through the system with a fine and whatever...
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Dominator528JV Squad
815 days ago
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There may be more than meets the eyes dealing with these two cases (The Beast may not see the difference - but believe me there is). I am not an apologist for the players in any manner in fact I am more on the side of law enforcement on these issues (maybe becasue of what I do for a living). Indiana Excise is stocked with new officers this year and the citing of a minor for transporting of booze with a person over 21 doing the possession is a RARE situation (at best) when the person involved with the purchase and possession of that booze is 21 or over and the other party has no possessing funcion police officers rarely even sift through the book to FIND "something" - but if you are hell bent on stats...hmmmm. Now Mr. Hand's ordeal throws WAY MORE red (or shall I say yellow) flags. 1st off has anyone here seen any of our prostitutes on lovely South Michigan in South Bend? If Mr. Hand is a frequent flyer of any of our street Entrepreneurs then even the opposing lineman need to get tested. The main point here is - Yes Beast - both players commited criminal acts - One was cited for a little (or never used) statute that can be treated as a cited infraction - and the other player was dealing with known and admitted crack heads and convicted felons - oh and just plain yucckkkk. Double standard - I doubt it with this comparison (but I wonder if Mr. Clausen may not need to understand that he is in South Bend now and as far as STAR athletes - we new ones come and old ones go everyday)
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RynoWaterboy
814 days ago
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I hate Notre Dame so much.
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
814 days ago
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The facts are that he was busted for transporting someone to a liquor store as a minor. Now, I am an attorney and I certainly didn't know that was illegal. I can understand why it is illegal, and I am sure it is exactly because of what JuTMSY4 says, he was driving someone to the store to buy booze for him. However, that doesn't change the fact that he wasn't busted for doing anything wrong. He was busted for driving someone to a liquor store. I for one would say this is a non-story.
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
814 days ago
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Agreed 100%. This is a non-story. There are plenty of penalities, laws and rules that are needed to protect minors and individuals in society. Now as far as it being illegal for him to drive a car with alchol in it, I have never even heard of that before. Its a dumb law, but that takes a lot under assumption rather than examining fact. Weis is not playing favorites with Claussin because he has no hard proof that he was going to do anything with the alchol. Matter of fact, in many states it is legal for a minor to be in possesion of alchol.
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JuTMSY4Legend
814 days ago
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Hell, in most places i think you need to be 18 to serve...
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
814 days ago
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Very true 18 to serve or even sell if in a grocery store in most places.
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JuTMSY4Legend
814 days ago
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Ha, in boston/mass they have to get a cashier over 21 to swipe the beer over the register and bag it for you...its kidna funny...and very annoying...

More importantly, this story is dumb...I can't fault clausen for doing something I (may) have done...It just so happens he was probably being stupid...College and Alcohol go together...he was just covering himself by saying he was simply transporting it (which is BS, but who cares)...

Weis cut him a little slack and I have no problem with it...who hasn't had a little slack cut for them...

Of course, if he were, i dunnom accused of raping a stripper he'd clearly be guilty right off the bat!
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
814 days ago
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Agreed it is dumb. I have serious problems with the alchol rules in this country. I know I transported alchol plenty of times while I was under 21, hell I had a fake and bought plenty of alchol under 21. It happens in college kids 18-21 drink its that simple.
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Trish The DishSoccer Kid
814 days ago
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Clausen is a hottie! I'd do him until he screamed for mercy!
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PeanMajor Leaguer
814 days ago
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Hey Geno's World, get a life
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JuTMSY4Legend
814 days ago
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Sick Move David...Sick Move
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InsanMajor Leaguer
814 days ago
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Nice Pean. Gift for you.
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InsanMajor Leaguer
814 days ago
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I told you s/he was a guy Justin!
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JuTMSY4Legend
814 days ago
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I was blinded by the pictures...who cares, the girl int he pics is hot!
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InsanMajor Leaguer
814 days ago
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Ehhh, personally, I think she needs some ass implants, looks kinda flat in the back.
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JuTMSY4Legend
814 days ago
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You just haven't drank enough then...
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
814 days ago
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Mighty alchol can change the appereance of any situation
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Trish The DishSoccer Kid
814 days ago
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I don't get it.
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DwalbertVarsity Captain
813 days ago
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why doesnt that surprise me really?
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IamthelummoxWaterboy
814 days ago
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Charlie Weis and Jimmy Clausen will have plenty of time to talk about it after Jimmy throws interceptions and is forced to watch teams march up and down the field on their weak-ass defense.
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Dominator528JV Squad
814 days ago
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I think what is more interesting is that he will experience his 1st loss this year. He was 44-0 in High School. I am interested how he handles defeat and mistakes. You can't keep laying the golden egg when your thrown out of the nest.
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