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The WSOP - Main Event: and Why I Loathe It

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by Rawbeezeitz

The Main Event is the largest poker tournament of the year. A few thousand people put up $10k a piece to play. Simply making the final table means you’ll pocket at least $1 million. But it’s also the most pointless tournament of the year, and the biggest joke.

Poker to me, is barely a sport. My definition of a sport is a competition in which athleticism is an advantage. The athleticism that gives a poker player an advantage is low-level endurance. In other words: being able to stay alert and awake for a long stretch.

I should probably mention that I’m a poker player, a semi-professional poker player. I average a profit when I play, but I don’t make enough to live off poker playing alone. I used to be 50 pounds heavier than I am, and it is much easier for me now to play long stretches of poker, because I’m not as tired.

Anyway, back to the Main Event. I love watching great poker. Seeing a great player make an amazing fold (like folding pocket Kings preflop), or a great call (like calling with Ace high on the river), or a great bluff, is fun to watch. But ESPN covers poker in a way that makes it unbearable for even a poker junky like myself to enjoy.

Each episode of ESPN poker is an hour long, which means it’s about 45 minutes of program, and 15 minutes of commercial. Each episode usually has 3 or 4 human interest stories about one of the players. These are boring as hell. I really don’t care that John Juanda has two kids and lives in a suburb of Las Vegas. These segments usually take up another 15 minutes.

So there’s 30 minutes of actual poker. However, almost every single hand ESPN shows is an all-in. One guy gets Ace-King, another guy gets pocket Tens, raise, re-raise, re-re-raise, all-in, it’s about 50/50 who wins. This isn’t poker. This is watching people flip coins. Would anyone want to watch that?

But that’s what the Main Event is. The field is so large, and there are so many chips out there, that actual poker playing is irrelevant compared to the power of winning these 50/50 races. Think about it, you start off with 10,000 chips, and your mission is to acquire about 80,000,000 more. No matter how well you play, your fate will be determined by luck.

And let’s say you do play well and get up to 500,000 chips at some point, then someone else getting an insane run of cards moves to your table with 5,000,000 in chips. You’re at a monstrous disadvantage, and no matter how good you are, the guy with 10 times as many chips as you has a much better chance of beating you than vice versa.

The Main Event is nothing but a crapshoot with the luckiest player winning, not the best player. Even if I had the $10k to buy-in to it, I wouldn’t, I’d rather put the $10k on a crap game or on blackjack. I don’t even play those $1 and $2 satellites online for the Main Event, because it’s a total waste of time.

So tonight, many people will find themselves watching Ace-Queen go up against pocket Jacks. Real exciting crap there, two people push all-in and see what happens. When will ESPN air the World Series of Coin Flipping?


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WizardmanRed-Shirting
838 days ago
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At first I thought, how can you hate poker? after reading the title. Then I read this and it made a lot of sense. Really, they just show the 50-50s or the all-ins.

Another thing they don't do is show all the slow, boring hands in between the "exciting" ones, so it looks like it far faster-paced than it is.

That's why I play 7 card stud myself. At most around 750 players, so it's far more skill than luck.
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RomiezzoLegend
838 days ago
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Definition of a sport: Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. We've discussed this many times. Poker is not a sport. Poker is all MENTAL. It IS competitive, but you can't consider it a sport.
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SSreportersLegend
838 days ago
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Romi, we all know how tough it is to put down a card without sweating profusely. :P
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RomiezzoLegend
838 days ago
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Or how much strength it takes to hold 2 or 5 or whatever cards.
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
838 days ago
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That's why I said "barely a sport." I was just pointing out in my own personal experience that being in decent shape has made it much easier for me to play at the highest mental level for longer. But all it really takes to be "an athletic" poker player is to not be completely out of shape.
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Brendan.CanneyDiv-I Stud
838 days ago
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I wonder when a poker player will appear in a NutriSystem commercial.
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RomiezzoLegend
838 days ago
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Or a Wheaties Box! ;)
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Brendan.CanneyDiv-I Stud
838 days ago
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When that happens I will refuse to watch or discuss sports from that point on.
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RomiezzoLegend
838 days ago
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I would too, except I've already promised myself not to watch it about 2 years ago.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
838 days ago
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See this is why I prefer chess over poker. Chess is pure skill, whereas poker always relies on the luck of the cards. That's why I consider chess a sport, for it is competitive, and a skill. The physical aspect is clearly lacking, however. But then, I happen to be decent at chess, so I'm perhaps biased.
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RomiezzoLegend
838 days ago
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No offense Alex, but I don't consider chess a sport either. It does involve more strategy, which is why chess is considered more a sport than poker is in my opinion, but I just believe that a sport, like in answers.com or Websters, or any dictionary you can find, explains that a sport must involve physical activity.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
838 days ago
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True, but there's no reason why you can't change the definition. :P
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RomiezzoLegend
838 days ago
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LOL. I think a sport is more mental and competitive than it is physical in my opinion. What do you think basketball, baseball, soccer, SNOOKER, and all the sports need in order for it to require as a sport?
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ChristofMVP
838 days ago
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Poker is a sport that requires no skill but all luck.
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Ea34Div-I Stud
838 days ago
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I agree. I play a good amount of poker and have concluded that there truly is ceiling on the amount of "skill" or "talent" a poker player can have. after that, you need to catch cards- plain and simple. there certainy is skill involved with the game, but let's not fool ourselves into thinking that that's the only thing that makes a winner at a poker table. every one of these "great" poker players that Norman Chad slobbers over would be a broke-a$$ degenerate gambler if they didn't catch their cards at key moments (i.e. with a ton of chips in the pot). I love playing poker and it's a blast, but it's definitely not a sport and only partly a game of skill.
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
838 days ago
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My bank account disagrees.
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RomiezzoLegend
838 days ago
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Games are games. Sports are sports. Is arm wrestling a sport? It requires physical activity and competition. It's not a sport, but ESPN has made it a sport for broadcasting people who have been on steroids longer than Jose Canseco, but that's not the point.

The point is there is a line between games and sports. Everyone has a line that's crossed. Some people think poker is a sport, some people think NASCAR is a sport, some people think X-Games is a sport.

Everything is going to turn into things like what "The Ocho" would broadcast. Arm wrestling, bowling, Spelling bee. What's next?
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Brendan.CanneyDiv-I Stud
838 days ago
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Freestyle kayaking.
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
838 days ago
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I didn't want this article to be debating whether or not poker is a sport, so I'll settle it. It isn't. It's a game, and for some people it's an occupation.
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Ea34Div-I Stud
838 days ago
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I don't disagree with that statement at all. Nor am I saying that you can't make money doing it. I'm just not crazy about how presented.

TV presents poker as though it's played by men who were gifted to us by the gods for that singular purpose. Not so! There isn't a "Michael Jordan of poker". Successful poker players are mentally alert, disciplined individuals with a good mind for statistics. The most successful ones are the members of the previous group who catch the cards they need when there is a lot of money in the pot.

I get the feeling we feel somewhat similarly on the subject.
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
838 days ago
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I disagree with this whole idea of luck. In any singular event, luck plays a factor, but in the long term, luck is meaningless when it comes to whether or not a player is a winner or a loser.
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Dominator528JV Squad
838 days ago
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ESPN defines a sport in the following way: Any activity - when televised - gets them ratings and generates monetary rewards (for the network) with sponsership dollars. You put 10 people in a room and play hot potatoe with a winner at the end AND that gets viewrs - then you got yourself a sport.
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SSreportersLegend
838 days ago
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And I've found my comment of the day.
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Dominator528JV Squad
838 days ago
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Just so you all know that was my Dan Quayle "e" at the end of potato
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SSreportersLegend
838 days ago
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"The future will be better tomorrow"
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DwalbertVarsity Captain
837 days ago
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can you really blame espn for not showing full events? i dont want to see 6 hands straight of no flops. its just common sense to show the hands that have some sort of drama or impact. additionally, ever wonder why poker is on tv during the middle of the day when people are at work or real late at night when people are sleeping? they arent banking on ratings from this shit.
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SSreportersLegend
837 days ago
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Why are they airing poker?
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JMoffatWaterboy
837 days ago
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i cant stand tuesday nights on espn.... wsop all night
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SSreportersLegend
837 days ago
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ESPN Classic as well.
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EnyboDiv-I Stud
837 days ago
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Ok, you got me, why is folding pocket kings pre-flop great to watch?
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
837 days ago
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It's great for me to watch, I don't know about anyone else, but that fold impresses me. I did it once, and it was the hardest thing in poker I've ever done.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
819 days ago
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I'm not really a great poker player myself, but I've played enough to see how big of a factor luck is. If I'm playing a 5000 entry tournament, odds are that at some point I will get unlucky and lose some or all my chips, sure. If I'm playing a 1$ sit'n'go online, where no one REALLY knows what they are doing, odds are that someone will get lucky with a stupid move and when the stakes don't govern the seriousness of each decision, "great" bluffs will get punished and "traps" will backfire. Luck. Sure.

But, take a second mortgage and go to a poker table. Who would you rather have playing against you? 8 professionals, even with equal possessions, or 8 nobodies from nowhere? When the stakes are high enough, you don't necessarily need the best cards to win. So the amount of skill or talent a person can have is really not all that limited.

But, I agree, that in a huge tournament the odds of someone sucking out are ultimately huge. To accumulate 8 000 000 chips with 10 000 chips means is about nine all-ins and even that is counting it down since these don't include other big pots, blinds and antes etc. So other players have 10 chances to suck out on you. Odds are, one of those will work. I'm not sure if my math is all straight here, but it seems like common sense.

All in all, I want to say two things. First of all, though skill is not a small factor, even it can't beat luck every time. But let's all keep that to ourselves so they won't ban on-line poker, okay ;)

Secondly, this debate about poker being a sport - don't you think it's a rather pointless, 'cause you're not arguing about what it is like, like Rawbeezeitz did in the beginning, you're just arguing about what the word "sport" means. Why? What is there for anyone to gain? Poker is mental, competitive and long tournament naturally require some physical endurance. PERIOD. You all agree on that. Leave it at that.
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