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The Prince Fielder Effect

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by Coreyisarealboy

It's no secret in baseball that batting directly before a slugger has its advantages. You see a lot better pitches because the pitchers are less willing to play around and risk the chance of putting a runner on for the slugger.

This is the part in baseball where being really good makes everyone around you better as well. And no spot in baseball this year has been more productive than the one directly in front of Prince Fielder.

Ryan Braun has almost certainly benefited from hitting in front of Prince Fielder
Ryan Braun has almost certainly benefited from hitting in front of Prince Fielder

Fielder himself is having an MVP type year, hitting 30 home runs and driving in 72 runs out of the No. 3 and No. 4 spots in the lineup. But the No. 2 and No. 3 spots, respectively, have been even more productive than Fielder himself.

On May 25, J.J. Hardy, who was at the time batting second and Fielder third in the Brewers lineup, had hit 15 home runs and driven in 43 runs with a .314 batting average, including a home run and two RBIs in the May 25th game against the San Diego Padres.

This was, not coincidently, the game Ryan Braun made his major league debut, batting second in front of Hardy and Fielder moving to the cleanup spot. They would play one more game in that order, and then be swapped with Hardy batting second and Braun batting third in front of Fielder.

Since that fateful day on May 26, Hardy has hit just three home runs and batted in 11 runs and watched his batting average fall from .308 to .275.

Conversely, Braun has put up stellar numbers during his rookie campaign. Through just 44 games, Braun has hit .347 with 14 homers, 38 runs batted in, 14 doubles, 39 runs scored and an OPS of 1.085. (If you're wondering, the projected 162 game total at Braun's current pace is 52 home runs, 140 RBIs, 52 doubles and 144 runs scored. Food for thought if you still think Hunter Pence deserves the Rookie of the Year Award more than Braun.)

Add Hardy's pre-May 26th total with Braun's post-May 26th total and you get 29 home runs and 81 runs batted in, or, to put it plainly for the purpose of this article, better numbers out of the spots directly before Prince Fielder than the numbers he himself has put up.

So is hitting in front of Fielder the best lineup spot in all of baseball? Who can say? But if Ryan Braun brings home the Rookie of the Year hardware at the end of the season, I'm sure his lineup placement had at least a little to do with it.


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ChristofMVP
865 days ago
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The same argument could be made involving Ryan Howard and Chase Utley.
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KelsdadAll-Star
865 days ago
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Actually, not really. Braun is a rookie and Hardy has had bouts with injuries in his two years so this is really his first full season as a regular. Utley was, in my opinion, the NL MVP last season, so I believe Howard benefitted more from Utley than the other way around.
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RomiezzoLegend
865 days ago
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Ryan Braun is having a pretty good rookie year. Hitting in front of Prince Fielder is definitely an advantage. Look at the year David Ortiz had last year for example. I think hitting in the 3 spot is definitely an advantage, and is an advantage, which is why they have such high BAs. They wanna make sure that they get good pitches and get out of the inning...
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
865 days ago
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I don't think Braun is actually getting the respect he deserves for the year he's put up so far. This article was actually going to be specifically on him and his rookie campaign, because he's put up almost identical numbers to Pence in 24 fewer games. Do I think where he hits helps him out tremendously? Yes, I do, which is why I switched the topic of the article.
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
865 days ago
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Thats because Braun was a mid-season call-up. With Josh Hamilton's injury problems, I think Braun has a great shot at winning ROY. My fantasy team picked him up even though I already had Miggy Cabrera. I have been trying to trade Miggy because Braun is wasting away on my bench.
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Baseball studentPee Wee
865 days ago
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Actually, various sabermetric studies have shown that there is little discernable benefit to batting in front of a slugger. There is no established trend. Take Bobby Abreu hitting in front of A-Rod to begin the season. Or Vernon Wells hitting in front of Glaus/Thomas. Ray Durham batted .207 with a .610 OPS hitting in front of Barry Bonds this year. Brendan Harris' worst performance has come hitting third in front of Carlos Peña. Jose Reyes has had no difference in performance whether it's Ruben Gotay, David Wright, Paul Lo Duca or Carlos Beltran behind him.
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
865 days ago
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So what you're saying is that J.J. Hardy really is as good as those 18 first half home runs he put up? Kick ass.
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Baseball studentPee Wee
865 days ago
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No, I'm saying that was a flukey performance from an injury-prone SS who lacks on-base skills. Hardy's not as good as he played in May, and not as bad as he did in June. Remember when Chris Shelton hit 10 homers in April to open 2006? These things happen, and it's not because of Prince Fielder. JJ Hardy has never been a power-hitting prospect: his career minor league OPS is .737, and he had just 25 homers in 1142 ABs. Ryan Braun, on the other hand, is legit. He hit .309/.367/.549 in two previous minor-league seasons, and was widely regarded as the Brewers' top position prospect. He'll hit, with or without Prince.
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
865 days ago
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And what does that prove except for the fact that sabermetrics is bullshit?
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Baseball studentPee Wee
864 days ago
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Well, if anything, it proves that there's no real benefit to hitting in front of a slugger. The fictitious benefit has been falsified repeatedly: the trend simply doesn't exist. You'd expect hitters in front of Barry Bonds or A-Rod to have monster years, but that simply doesn't happen. This isn't computers; it's a simple truth. You can't turn a mediocre hitter into a good one just by hitting in front of a slugger. The fact is that JJ Hardy has never been a super prospect, and scouts (not just computers) have always praised Braun's power numbers.
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KelsdadAll-Star
865 days ago
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Oh great. Someone else who thinks baseball is played on a computer.
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
865 days ago
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Ding Ding Ding. Someone else who gets it!
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Baller48321Waterboy
864 days ago
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Math can tell us a lot about sports though.
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KelsdadAll-Star
864 days ago
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Sure. 100 hits in 300 at bats is a .333 average. 100 points in 5 games is 20 points a game. Whoever scores the most points in a game wins. Math does tell alot.
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Baseball studentPee Wee
864 days ago
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It's not like teams have been batting around Hardy (I watch pretty much every Brewers game on the weekdays). No one wants to pitch around Hardy and risk walking him in front of Braun AND Fielder. Besides, Braun has hit better than Fielder since his callup. So if the claims is that Braun benefits by hitting in front of a good hitter in Fielder, shouldn't Hardy benefit even more from batting in front of Braun?

Also, Hardy's slump has coincided with him battling back tightness and a stomach virus on separate occasions. (But mostly, it's that Hardy isn't a 40-homer guy. He couldn't have kept that up even if he kept batting third.)

Lastly, Braun's RBI and R totals are due partially to batting #3 in a good lineup. It mostly has to do with him hitting the snot out of the ball, but batting third helps, as does driving yourself in with homers. Similarly, Hardy's lack of RBI is mostly a result of his slump, but it's been compounded by batting 2nd in an NL lineup, where RBI opportunities are scarce: the average #3 hitter in the NL has driven in 55 runs, where the average #2 hitter has driven in 41.
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