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The Athlete That Doesn't Exist

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by user Ufgators

As a sports fan, I need insight, I need objectiveness, and I need athletes who are honest. Not one of the aforementioned needs will ever be met, because the athlete I just described...does not exist.

Think back to the last interview you saw on ESPN, where someone was interviewing a player. Did you gain any knowledge of the status of the team/player, or was the interview a complete waste of your time? More than likely, it was the latter. I want the athlete who tells you straight up that things aren't going so well, the team is fed up with losing. I don't want to hear a player from a last place team talk about how the GM made a great move in acquiring a 3rd string center, and how it puts the team in the right direction for the future. How many years have the K.C. Royals, Tampa Bay DevilRays, etc. been in the rebuilding process? It is only a legitimate excuse for so many years.

Next, I hate the fact that players will leave a promising team who offers him, for example, a 6-year/42 million dollar contract, for the team that offers him a 6 year/49 million dollar contract. Can someone please explain to me what difference 49 million dollars will make as opposed to a few less million? Will Latrell Sprewell suddenly be able to support his starving family? Will Mike Vick suddenly be able to buy that new cadillac he always wanted, but couldn't afford on his past salary? Do you think that Bill Buckner would have fielded the infamous ball that rolled through his legs, had he been paid a few extra million? Would Kevin Dyson have made that extra one yard push in Super Bowl XXXIV had he been paid 15 million extra? NO! Has A-Rod, who left the Mariners to sign the most lucrative contract in sports history at the time with the Rangers, played much better after doing so? No, he hasn't. His OBP was .420 in his final year with Seattle. His OBP hasn't reached .400 since. This is a perfect example that giving more money to a player doesn't make him better, nor will it prevent a player from making a monumental blunder, or give him a one yard boost. We have proven over the past years that the more money you give a player, the more it corrupts him. The athlete that doesn't bolt from the team that he developed on, the team whose fan's love him, just for a few million, simply does not exist.

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The next athlete that doesn't exist anymore is the athlete that plays through pain. Cal Ripken played in a record 2,632 straight games, spanning sixteen seasons. Mark Prior has been on the DL seven times. We have players who can't play because they sprained a toe, broke their hand punching a wall and got frostbite in August. On, July 27th, 2006, Bears RB Thomas Jones injured his hamstring during a physical at the Bears' summer camp. Yes sir, I hear those physicals are tough as nails to pass. Then, you have players who flat out don't want to play on certain days. Cal Ripken, on away games, used to stay in a different hotel than the rest of the team, just so he could concentrate on the upcoming game. Shea Hillenbrand didn't play because no one congratulated him on adopting a son. Roger Clemens has so many stipulations in his contract that he can pitch whenever he feels like it, and still get paid more than players like Francisco Liriano.

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I hate hearing athletes preach to us that drugs are bad. Rafael Palmeiro even wagged his finger, looked us straight in the eye, and said he didn't use steroids.

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So much for that. I don't care if you use steroids or not, but just don't tell us how you are such a great athlete, how you can still succeed without taking the easy way out, and then five months later get busted for high testosterone levels. Close your mouth, play the game, and entertain me with your record-setting performances.


Have athletes become so far removed from reality that they are too scared to give a straight up answer about the team? Are they so valuable that they can compromise their morales, lose the respect of everyone, and sign a contract for a few extra million? How can they look us in the eye and tell us something is bad, and then get busted five months later?

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I need insight, I need objectiveness, and I need athletes who are honest and have morales. Not one of the aforementioned needs will ever be met, because that athlete doesn't exist.


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Tue 08/01/06, 9:00 am EST


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UfgatorsDiv-I Stud
1217 days ago
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don't try to reason with me that 49 mill > than 42 mill and signing the larger contract makes more sense. a couple more million does not make any difference to an athlete, and money cannot buy respect, or the adoration a player receives on his previous team (see A-rod from seattle-texas)
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BarkingclamVarsity
1217 days ago
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Not really about the article - but I've always felt that even if Buckner has fielded the ball cleanly, he wouldn't have made it to the bag in time anyway. And besides, when the run scored on a wild pitch right before, the Sox were dead. No team would rebound from a collapse like that.
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UfgatorsDiv-I Stud
1217 days ago
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thank you...i agree. but anyhting about the article? agree/disagree?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1217 days ago
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Well, after Uncle Sam, your agent, your marketing team, your nutritionist, your personal trainer, your personal assitants, the handouts to your posse, the bitches and the new Bentley, etc; Yes, a measly $7 million makes a big difference. UMFg, take a look at how many of these dudes with multi-million contracts have ended up bankrupt. No one EVER sees the full amount. A-Rod's contract is $252mil, but unless he invests WISELY, he WON'T see anything close to that amount.
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DRE-LOAAA-er
1217 days ago
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Allow me to be political for a moment. If we held corporate execs and government officials as accountable as we do A-Rod for his mistakes and failures, we'd be much better off as a society.
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UfgatorsDiv-I Stud
1217 days ago
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Manny, a-rod's contract is so big that he is set for life. many of these athletes are set for life. between endorsement deals and their contract, they have more money than we will ever see in a life time. i dont buy it. a-rod, or anyathlete for that matter, doesn't need to worry about money
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1217 days ago
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it's all relative, homie... you're set for life compared to a refugee in Rwanda. Are you gonna turn down a raise because "you really don't need it"? It's not an athlete's fault if he can find someone to pay him more.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1217 days ago
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and the MORE money you have, the MORE things you have to worry about...
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UfgatorsDiv-I Stud
1217 days ago
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I do need a raise! Do I have endorsement deals? I don't have the attention or anything like an athlete has in his hometown. A-rod was loved in Seattle, and Johnny Damon was a hero in boston. You cannot compare me to an athlete who has all the attention and spotlight on him. ME accepting a raise is incomparable to an athlete moving to a different team because he WANTS more money. there is a difference between NEED and WANT.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1217 days ago
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ha ha, Tom Hicks didn't NEED to offer A-Rod $252m. Latrell NEEDED to feed his family, but no G.M. wanted to pay him. There's so much more going on that we'll never know. maybe Damon thought that Yankee groupies are hotter
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1217 days ago
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and if you do take that raise, there will be a new responsibility for you to maintain, much like A-Rod getting booed for not being God.
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TartanVarsity Captain
1217 days ago
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Average career of an NFL player is 3-4 years, and the average guy doesn't get paid anywhere near that salary. The average salary is just under $2 million per year. Thats on average $7 million for the rest of the players life, granted a large sum of money, but definitely not enough is mismanaged. Many of these athletes are not able to do anything else than athletics, so once its over, its over. Only the very greatest can make it in a broadcasting booth or charge appearance fees. Furthermore, these athletes are not fans of the teams they play for, very few athletes are lucky enough to get drafted by their hometown teams, so unlike the fan, they don't have that loyalty that fandom imagines. Also, athletes have a very high chance of injury, and especially in the NFL, if a player goes down, he gets cut, its very easy, and the contract is worth nothing. So why not try to get as much as possible, its only for so long, and you have to support your entire family with that much money, send kids to college, pay for your high-cost medical bills, etc. Only now are some MLB teams allowing players to be covered medically after retirement. If you work at BP, and Exxon offers you 20% more per year, indefinitely, not just for a few years, you'll take the opportunity, you don't have any sworn allegiance to your job, just like professional athletes don't have any to their teams.
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UfgatorsDiv-I Stud
1217 days ago
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very good points, but iwill never understand how you can justify a player needing more money to send his kids off to college. is 10 million not enough to set you for the rest of your life, including college, bills, health care, etc? if athletes managed their money better, i wouldn't even have to bring up the money issue.
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Ra33chSoccer Kid
1217 days ago
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this really has nothing to do with the article, but how about you just make your kids pay for their own college tuition...
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UfgatorsDiv-I Stud
1217 days ago
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what? I didnt even start the whole college discussion. im still a young guy, but what i was saying is that these guys are set for life. end of discussion
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Ra33chSoccer Kid
1217 days ago
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sorry uf, i wasnt directing that specifically to you. i was just throwin it out there. if you dont like it you can send it right back...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1217 days ago
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Great article, by the way... you just WAIT until I learn how to add pics...
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UfgatorsDiv-I Stud
1217 days ago
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thank you
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UfgatorsDiv-I Stud
1217 days ago
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manny, sprewell did not NEED more money to feed his family. him asking...no, demanding for more money and giving the reason that he needs to feed his family is the most selfish thing i've ever heard. athletes mismanage their money, and i cannot fathom how anyone can justify a reason for them to make more money. any contract they have is more money than we'll ever see in a life time.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1217 days ago
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they are asking for a slice of what they earned for the owners. Do people buy tickets to see the owner, the logo, the stadium or the players? They generate the revenue, and few see a return their true value. If you want to say no one deserves that much money for playing a game, don't bother to see what actors get paid. If they don't make the $$$, someone else will. Would you rather see the player make the $ or the owners? I'd like to see revenues go back to taxpayers personally. Not ever taxpayer is a sports fan, but their taxes built stadiums.
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ASwaffAll-American
1217 days ago
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First of all, the D-Rays can't claim to be rebuilding, because they were never built. They've never succeeded on any level. While the Royals are past the rebuilding stage, at least they were good at one point. Actually, they were great. As for Clemens, he doesn't have stipulations about pitching when he wants to. He has stipulations that allow him to stay home if he's not SCHEDULED to pitch on a road trip. But nothing affects his regular turns in the rotation. He gets as many starts as anyone. And you made that critique right after ranting about athletes that don't play through pain anymore. You could have given Clemens props for pitching with a pulled hamstring, but instead opted for an off-base criticism.
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UfgatorsDiv-I Stud
1217 days ago
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+ for you. The royals were good, not great, but they were good. then they rebuilt! If you intend on being a competitor in baseball, you need to retain your players (something the a's and royals can't seem to do). In the case of the marlins, they restock with young talent. Clemens made sure that he got everything he wanted in his contract, and for that, i say good for him, but he does have a lot of tweaks in there. i do give props for clemens and schilling for pitching hurt, but i thought it was a given that the majority of players dont play through pain. obviously, what i wrote above doesnt apply to EVERYONE, but i felt i gave enough examples to warrant what i said, no? as for ranting, its what i do.
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ASwaffAll-American
1217 days ago
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Hey, I've got nothing against a rant. I rant, too. I just like my rants to be factually accurate.
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
1217 days ago
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2 words. Curtis Martin. The perfect athlete.
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Ray agmJV Squad
1217 days ago
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Didn't Brady stay with the Pats on a lower contract?
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UfgatorsDiv-I Stud
1217 days ago
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good call. so did chipper, in hopes of resigning rafael furcal. we all know how well that turned out...
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UfgatorsDiv-I Stud
1217 days ago
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i thought my rant was factually accurate? well, for the most part! curtis martin...yes, he's rushed for over 1000 yards 10 straight seasons, right? lets start discussing perfect athletes. i say marshall faulk
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ASwaffAll-American
1217 days ago
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Two that come to mind for me are Troy Aikman and Marvin Harrison. Great players that stick with their teams, shoulder responsibility and say nice things about their teammates without demanding credit for their own performances. Aikman does well as a commentator for the same reasons. He doesn't pull any punches. One of the few who says it like it is.
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ShrubberyVarsity Captain
1217 days ago
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Here's my two cents on this debate...why do fans, the press, and casual observers fault athletes for going after bigger money? In the average American's working career fewer than 5% stay with the company that originally hired them longer than 10-15 years. In a business career, 10-15 years is equivelent to 5-7 years in the life of a professional athlete, yet we villify the job mobility we exercise at will. Athletes get paid an obscene amount of money for playing a kids game but they should be afforded the same opportunity for upward mobility most Americans take as a birth right. Don't fault the athlete for being a capitalist, after all, loyalty doesn't exist any more amongst lesser paying fields than in professional sports.
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ASwaffAll-American
1217 days ago
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I fault anyone in the business world who passes up on loyalty for a little extra money. If you're getting a lot more money, that's different. But leaving a couple extra mil...that stinks. Especially if they are making money at such outrageous expense to the consumer, as is the situation with pro sports (that goes for owners, GMs and managers, not just players).
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ShrubberyVarsity Captain
1217 days ago
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That's such a terrible sentiment to have ASwaff. Athletes shouldn't be forced, compelled, or artificialy linked to whichever team gave them a start. Teams as well as athletes take calculated risks all the time and the cost is absorbed easily. If a guy making $50,000 a year finds someone willing to pay him $55,000 why should he stay at the lower paying job? If you answer loyalty I say you're wrong and naive. Just because athletes make ungodly sums of money doesn't mean they should have to stay with a lower paying boss. The money they make is irrelevent. The only germane factor in this debate is the ability to choose one's employer, for whatever reason one chooseth.
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ASwaffAll-American
1217 days ago
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I've got no problem with them picking a different employer, if they're not going just for money. As was pointed out, if you go to a team that's not as good but offers more money, that stinks. It's greedy. But if they're offering you about the same, and one is clearly more talented than another, or you'll be closer to your family, or whatever, I have no problem with them picking that team. It's when they leave for marginally more money or hold out for marginally more money that I get annoyed. And again, it's not just about loyalty, it's also about the cost that gets passed on to the consumer.
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ShrubberyVarsity Captain
1217 days ago
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What cost gets passed on to the sports consumer? Ticket prices? Beer prices? Parking? Consessions? Sports makes all their profits from television contracts and ticket sales. If ticket sales go up because my Broncos sign a disgruntled Javon Walker, so be it. But if you truly want to put your protest money where your mouth is you'd have to boycot every corporate advertiser on sports TV, not buy the merchandise, not buy tickets, not watch the games, not watch ESPN. Are you prepared to exile yourself to a sporting Siberia because A-Rod signed a $250 million contract that barely made a ripple in the economic model that is Major League Baseball?
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ASwaffAll-American
1217 days ago
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I didn't say anything about protesting, I'm just saying that it sucks. It sucks that players, managers, GMs and owners are so selfish that it costs over $100 to take a family of five to go to a game and get a hot dog and a drink.
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Ray agmJV Squad
1217 days ago
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Can we at least agree that beer is way too pricey at some ballparks/arenas? At AT&T, they're like $9 each or something. At Staples they were $10 I remember. I know it's a business and such, but it's not even reasonably expensive...it's just a straight-up ripoff. The McDonald's at LAX has $4 Big Macs, but that seems so much more reasonable than $10 beer. Domestic beer I might add.
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ASwaffAll-American
1217 days ago
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ALL refreshments are too expensive at ball games. Hot dogs cost between five and ten dollars, sodas cost about 7 or 8. It's all outrageous.
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ASwaffAll-American
1217 days ago
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By the way, that's one of the reasons I like minor league baseball games so much. Round Rock has $1 hot dogs and $1 medium cokes on Mondays.
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DRE-LOAAA-er
1217 days ago
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Money does not automatically grant you a happy and fulfilling life. And you said so yourself, athletes ends up mismanaging their money by spending it on material. Need I remind you of Mike Tyson? Bjorn Borg nearly sold his Wimbledon trophies on Ebay!! Dave Meggett auctioned off his Super Bowl ring!! Remember, it's not how much money you make but how much you keep. And it dosen't guarantee you happiness. The way athletes like T.O or Sprewell take their privileged position for granted is sad.
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DRE-LOAAA-er
1217 days ago
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Another athlete that dosen't exist is the humble athlete. Especially rookies in the NFL who hold-out to get their max contract like they've played in the NFL for 10 years. Much was expected of Lebron, Carmelo and Wade when they played in the NBA but they still had to prove themselves first before getting their max contracts. Matt Leinart's holding out for his max contract although he hasn't played a down yet.
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ASwaffAll-American
1217 days ago
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That's true, I think it takes a certain level of arrogance to be a great athlete. You have to be selfish to want the ball and want to take the shot. There's a healthy level of arrogance, and an unhealthy level of arrogance. I think Wade is a good example of a healthy level of arrogance. He's got the constructive arrogance that makes him a good athlete, but it doesn't translate to being a jerk off the court.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1217 days ago
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I think that if it is a job (which after all, being a sports professional is), they should be paid in line with the rest of society. There is no way they should be payed more than doctors, or surgeons, or people of that ilk. Also, I don't comply with the "their careers only last five years" theory. In that case, they can enter a new field. These people graduate from college to play in the US Sports, so they must have some intelligence about them. I'm sure they can get another job, even if it is teaching sport at a local high school or something like that.
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