The 49ers are Officially a Mess

The Seahawks will get no credit for this win because Dilfer was at QB.

Except that the hawks did what every defense wants...take out the quarterback

That's totally a catch-22 though

A good chunk of those yards were garbage yards well after the fact.

Philly is 1-3 and a freaking doormat for Osi Yieumenyiora.

NO and STL were suposedly good...and so was CHI and STL...amazing how you can say that the hawks will lose because those teams are better, and now they are bad, but the hawks are still pathetic...interesting how that works. And that the 9ers are the team in the NFC West so when they lose it is because they beat themselves...not because the Seahawks are a better team.

The Bears have lost to pathetic teams. The Cowboys have played nothing but bottom Dwellers The Panthers are terrible The Packers are the only team that have exceeded expectations. So how can the Hawks NOT be talked about? The NFC is crap and the Seahawks are in the top 3.

And I am interested in how CLE is a Doormat when they have now beat the Bengals and the Ravens. 2 teams that are seen as playoff teams. interesting.

The Bengals have a great offense and the Seahawks beat them. What you said: "they slipped by the Bungles due to Cincinnati's inability to play smart football" Isn't that part of it? Aren't you supposed to win those games?

"beat a Tampa Bay team that is rebounding now" but they got beat by the Seahawks... And the Cards aren't terrible since they beat everyone's dear Steelers...

I am so tired of everyone talking about the Seahawks that they got lucky. That the other teams "beat themselves". They didn't. Their defense is getting better. They kept the high powered bengals out of the endzone but twice. Pretty good. Lets see how the Pats do with that.

This happened when the seahawks made the super bowl. They are better then you think.

"It is week 12 before they face anyone that may be good and that is Philadelphia." Did you see last nights game? Okay, I don't trust your opninion after you said that...

Geez, Ed loonnnnggg comment. Just like those penalty explanations!

It's okay AOEH, he's a Bills fan, so he's just ticked that the Bills are 1-3.

I disagree Ed, the Cowboys are a tremendous team.

Sorry...i flipped out...Fox pissed me off yesterday:

Moose: What will tomorrow's Headline read? Goose: San Fransisco beat by San Fransisco"

MY ASS!!! They were beat by a solid defensive showing from the Hawks.

I guess they Giants got lucky too? I mean, sheesh, a team is better then you think and it is a fluke...

They are a good team, but really, who have they played? When they beat the Colts or the Pats or, hell, even the Packers at this point, I will accept that they are tremendous. Until then, I will say that they are REALLY good.

Did someone mention just mention Dallas?

First, I never said that any of those teams were supposed to be good.

Second, I never projected the 49ers to win the West...show me somewhere that I did.

Third, I am not a Steelers fan...so you can toss the "everyone's dear Steelers" shtick out the window.

I could get a Pop Warner team to score on Cinci's defense. Baltimore has a creaky O line, McNair should be riding a Segway, and they miss Trevor Pryce on D.

I also said it is week 12 before they face anyone who MAY be good. I did not say they Eagles are good, that they will win the East or anything there now did I?

New England @ Dallas, October 21st. As for FOX, they got me upset because they mentioned the knockout punch only 400 times. It's 23-3, that IS a knockout punch. If Trent Dilfer can score 20 unanswered with THAT offense, then that is the story of the year.

What the? Silencer, I said SOME AGM users LIKE Donnie35 picked the 49ers to win the division.

Also wrong SS, I am not ticked that the Bills are 1-3. The fact that the team is still playing hard minus half their defensive starters, playing a fifth string OLB they signed off the street, with half their secondary gone, I have no issues with where Buffalo is.

I spent two years in Seattle, and I never heard so much bitching and whining from a bunch of "fans" as I did while I was there. When the Hawks go down the toilet again, how many of you will be there still rooting, and how many of you will be going "fucking Seahawks, we should have signed so and so, or we shouldn't have let this guy go."

At least get your facts lined up before you try to assume my thoughts on something.

and I was responding to the first paragraph of AOEH's filibuster comment.

3-1 with a banged up Shaun Alexander and DJ Hackett? Give credit where credit is due, we're much better than that team from last year, and will make the playoffs.

You called everyone a doormat. They weren't considered doormats by ANYONE at the beginning of the season, so, my point is that the season is early and that no one is who we thought they were (Dennis green). Sorry SS, I wasn't meaning to take out the anger on you, I am just so frustrated that no one can tell me WHY they are bad. So if you could please explain to me (with the ommission of their schedule)WHY the seahawks are bad.

And I meant Silencer not SS The team was 9-7 when they missed their QB and RB for a large chunk of the season, but they weren't good. Now they are back and added to the team, but they are still underdogs.

Silencer:

I agree with this: I spent two years in Seattle, and I never heard so much bitching and whining from a bunch of "fans" as I did while I was there. When the Hawks go down the toilet again, how many of you will be there still rooting, and how many of you will be going "fucking Seahawks, we should have signed so and so, or we shouldn't have let this guy go."

That is how Seattle fans are with everything. But I can tell you right now, I will be there. And please, answer me this, how can people knock seattle for that when I can name several examples of Boston/New England Fans doing the SAME thing. It seems like that is a sports fan thing...not a Seattle thing.

Yes, they are wishy washy at times, but 3-1 are the Seahawks. They beat Tampa (3-1), Cincy (1-2), and San Francisco (2-1 before that game). The only loss was to Arizona (2-2). The reason why we lost is because they had one of the longest head starts to any NFL game. The Cardinals still almost lost the game if not for the fumble.

I can knock Seattle fans for that all I want. Do you know why?

I was a Bills fan when there were such superstars as Joe Dufek, an over the hill Vince Ferragamo, an over the hill Joe Ferguson at QB. When Greg Bell supplanted Joe Cribbs as the starting RB. Do you remember Byron Franklin, Preston Dennard, Julius Dawkins and Mitch Brookins? I do. Franklin caught 69 balls in 84 to lead the team. No other WR had more than 30. And who could forget Matt Kofler on that team, who played in all 16 games and completed '35.5 % of his throws.

The Bills have not won a title since the AFL days. The Cubs have not won a Series since 1908. The Leafs haven't hoisted Lord Stanley's chalice since 1967. Yet I am still here. My support for those teams has been unwavering through thick and thin.

THAT is why I can criticize fans of ANY city about being on a bandwagon. True loyalty knows no boundaries.

I will not dispute that. The bills have had some...hmm...how can i put this...bad years...But you have yet to explain to me why the Seahawks are BAD?

It's tough to be on a bandwagon when every team wants to leave the city.

That's totally a catch-22 though

Where did I say they were bad...I said they were a see saw team. They play in spurts. There is a big difference. If I say a team is bad, I come right out and say that the team fucking sucks. I don't dance around and make it sound better than it is. Nate Burleson is not a proven #2. Alexander has been injury prone the last couple seasons. Maurice Morris is not a guy that can handle the load of 20-25 carries if something happens. Marcus Pollard is definitely on the wrong side of the hill as far as his career goes.

Okay, when did this happen?

Then I appologize if I read into it too much.

As I said before I am just really tired of hearing the shit from the national "crap in my head" media. I agree that Morris can't carry it, but Burleson is a good #2 (He was in MIN) he just hasn't really had a chance in Seattle with the load of WR they have. Alexander is frustrating with the injuries. A guy who was never injured then signs a big contract then is always injured... So I will call this one. I am done, i didn't mean to attack you, I'm just really on edge today. I agree they are See-Saw, they have been for awhile, and I think it will be like that until Holmgren hangs it up. Nothign agaisnt him, he is just a little too conservative at times, causing problems.

Thanks for the spirited back and forth.

Seahawks #1 Pick this year? A RB

Burleson has had ONE good season in his career...04 when he caught 68 balls for 1006 yards and 9 scores.

His best numbers in any other season?

30 catches (2005), 455 yards (2003), 2 TD (03, 06, 07).

Those do not speak out as a good #2.

Yeah, but look at his QB's at Minnesota.

When he has someone to throw to him he will come around.

Keyshawn as a number 2 was 815 yards for 4 TDS last year.

Look, those nubmers he got other then o4 were 1) rookie season, 2)frist season in Seahawks system, 3) as a number 4. At the end of the season lets discuss it becaus ei truly believe he will do well.

In the Seahawks system though, D Jack was under 1000 as the #1, so it is all relative to the system, the players ahaed of them, the QB.

I think this will be Burleson's breakout year.

Santana Moss had 790 and 6 tds. As a #1. All relative

I AGREEEEEEEEEEE SOOOOO HARD.

Exactamundo

Trizz, I battled with that. The Cowboys are the class of the NFC, but since it is the NFC or the N.on F.ebruary C.ompetition I am holding judgement for now.

But then again, Brett Favre is Brett Favre.

TB...did you write him a poem? (Caliendo reference from Sunday)

Well, I was actually working on a Madden to Favre tribute but something else came up today.

like anythign else?