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Teamless Fans

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by user Saddleshoe

I own about a dozen Yankees t-shirts, two Mets shirts and countless hats from a variety of teams.  I call myself a Yankees fan, but fairly often, I find myself listening to other teams as well on MLB.com  Many of the players I have followed have moved from team-to-team.  There is still a special feeling I get at Yankee Stadium.  It's home and it mostly feels like a place in which I am among friends. 

But, how long will there be fans like me - - when even my own state of "fan-ness" is changeable.  I know the Mets fairly well and I admire them.  Like everyone else in New York, I own a David Wright t-shirt. 

I also want a Brian Roberts t-shirt.  And I have underdog favorites like Mark Grudzielanek. 

It's 2007, and all of us can watch any teams we want anywhere in the world.  We can follow minor league players.  Sharon Pearce, who writes OUT OF THE BULLPEN on www.outofthebullpen.mlblogs.com, follows Steven Pearce, not just because he has her last name, but because he seems to be a rising star. 

It's a good thing that all of us have so many options to follow and watch so much.  But, I wonder if, in twenty years or so, people won't be fans of teams anymore.  My students already just buy sportswear for fashion purposes.  They astonish me with their collections of Yankees hats in multiple colors when they don't even follow baseball.  Will the next generation of fans not follow one team, but several?  Will they go to the park, or just watch the games on TV, the computer or their phones? 

I don't think having multiple allegiances is a bad thing, but I wonder what it will do to the way the sport is marketed or played.

What do you think?


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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
930 days ago
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Until this season I was a fan of baseball, and rooted for particular players I like not any particular team. If you stop and think "why do we NEED to root for the home team"? Why should I root for a particular team just because that's where I live? There's no rationale further than you get to watch a lot more of their games than other teams. I get hometown pride, but very few of your team's players if any are from your town too... if you have TOTAL fan allegiance it just means you were suckered out of more of your money for logoed junk than I was...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
930 days ago
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When I'm not watching the Rays bullpen act out a play that is half The Day After half Groundhog Day, I'm rooting for the underdog or a 7th game (and lots of OT/extra innings)
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JuTMSY4Legend
930 days ago
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Total BS manny...just because Philly rejected you... Its people who switch teams because they can't handle losing...
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
930 days ago
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Sounds like page one to the Instructional Guide for Bandwagon Jumping....
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JuTMSY4Legend
930 days ago
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I'm completely biased and against this for Multiple Reasons
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
930 days ago
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I never understood why I HAD to be a Phillies/Eagles/Sixers/Flyers fan when everyone else already was... What is wrong with liking ALL the teams (except the Yankees) and the LOVING the game itself? I also never chose a favorite team (after Wally Joyner left California for K.C.) because I realized that if I made it to the majors, I would have played for ANY of them...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
930 days ago
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Above all things, I always pull for the underdogs - maybe God made me a Devil Rays fan for a reason...
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
930 days ago
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Yes and MLB is for the poorer to not have Erik Kombol as a former player. We were robbed of a legend. Seriously - how far did you get? I think you mentioned college which is pretty damn good. What was your position?
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JuTMSY4Legend
930 days ago
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Take you lumps on the chin manny...I never said there was anything wrong with appreciated the game...Will I watch the cavs series, or did I watch last nights cup game (yes to both)...but I love my teams and damn it, I'll stick by them...victory will be even more sweet... Some of you guys know (i do not...never seen a championship)
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IlliniEdVarsity
930 days ago
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There isnt really anything wrong with hrooting for several teams. People like certian teams and dispise others. Most people have their team. The group that makes or breaks your day depending on how they do. Mine is the White Sox. However, you can develop affinities for other teams. I am a loud and proud Milwaukee Brewers fan. Nothing wrong with that. If the two teams play though, I am all White Sox all the time.
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JuTMSY4Legend
930 days ago
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With out a doubt I support teams on a lesser level like that (I'm happy to see a successful brewers franchise) and the parity in sports is always wonderful. With that said, I find it disgusting and (dare i say it) a fan to be lesser, should he/she switch/root for teams with similar vigor. That is to say, Ed, if you switch from sox to cubs with the ebb and flow of the season...that, is my problem...
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IlliniEdVarsity
930 days ago
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Yeah, I would rather castrate myself then root for those prissy little pee pants. I understand what you mean. Is it wrong to appreciate a team of similar staure for doing good work. I remeber there was a stretch of time where I was a big braves fan because I like the fact that they built a team around pitching and played the game right.
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JuTMSY4Legend
930 days ago
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I mean, its your decision, I just don't respect bandwagon riders. But, IMO, its not wrong to appreciate a team by any means (Say what you want about the yanks...26 world titles for example). But Ed, Would you say your a braves fan if someone asked you? Do you own braves memorabilia, do you love the braves?
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IlliniEdVarsity
930 days ago
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Right now, Braves. No. If you were to ask me if Iwas a Brewers fan, I would say yes. I own a Robin Yount Jersey. I have a Ben Sheets Bobblehead doll. I go to games. I am still a white Sox fan and love them to death. Greatest moment of my life was the 2005 game 4 final out.
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JuTMSY4Legend
930 days ago
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I'd read my rules of fandom for my opinion. I don't think its fair to root for the brewers in such a way, but i'm not you (now am i). I just wouldn't do it, its your decision.
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IlliniEdVarsity
930 days ago
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I fail to see what is wrong for them. I stated that if they are playing each other, I am a sox fan first and for most. My dad is from Wisconsin and is a brewers fan as is half my family. I go up there every year to see a game with a many of my friends. I enjoy the stadium, the atmosphere and the game as a whole. Do I check out what hte Brew crew does in terms of roster moves, no. Do I root for them when they play yes. What is so wrong with that. Its not even like I am rooting for another American League team. And for the record, I own a PK jersey, Robin Yount, Barry Bonds (story behind it I swear) and a Robin Yount jersey. I try and get one new jersey every year of a hall of famer. Why? Because I am a baseball afficianado.
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
930 days ago
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I will die a Cubs fan. Always have been, always shall be.
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IlliniEdVarsity
930 days ago
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Why are you limited to just rooting for one team and why do you ahve to have a reason. I know a guy who is a seahaeks fan just because he liked the girls on a poster when he wa sa kid. Does that make him any less of a fan. In all honesty, it doesnt matter how you picked your team as long as you support them. Why do you ahve to have rules as to why yo uare a fan or what teams you can and cant root for. Root for who you want for any reason you want.
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JuTMSY4Legend
930 days ago
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take it for what its worth ed, its just my opinion
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Clayton St. John Smythe Esq.Varsity
930 days ago
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I'm kinda with you Ed, I don't really get into baseball too much. I like going to a game to ogle ladies and drink 6 dollar beers in the hot sun, and to talk a bunch of smack (as long as my big friends are with me) As a kid I was a Twins fan during the Kirby days because my church always had tickets and that was my exposure to the sport. I could give two dumps about the Twins now. I like the White Sox because I find Wrigleyville to be one of the most obnoxious places on the planet, and the working class folks that make up the Sox constituency are alot more fun to hang out and drink beers with. The Brewers kinda give me the same feeling, and since my folks live there I go to a few games in the Summer to get that "America's Pasttime" feeling. Anyways, I can't wait until the NFL season, and have always loved football and ALWAYS been a Bears fan, well before moving to Chicago 10 years ago. I have this friend that is all "emo" and sh*t, and he is a Queens fan to be different or cool or something living here in Chicago. I have made him cry twice in the last two seasons for being a Vikes fan for a dumbass reason. Even though he can probably beat me up and I never back off, he still comes over to watch games at my house. I'll never understand Emo dudes who cry about football. Maybe it's his way of cutting himself.
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SaddleshoeJV Squad
930 days ago
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I'm a Yankees fan who likes to watch baseball. The Sox are a fun team to watch, so are the Mets. My students don't seem to be tried and true fans of any one team. I guess that, and the fact that I can listen and do listen to a lot of teams play, made me wonder what the next generation would be like.
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JuTMSY4Legend
930 days ago
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Watching and enjoying baseball is one thing, but to switch loyalty is another... I watch red sox games all the time (i live there), but I don't root for them specifically. I also used to live relatively close to baltimore and went to camden yards numerous times. My only rule is, if the phils aren't in town, root for the home team (unless you have a good reason not to, like the home team is a division rival)...
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SaddleshoeJV Squad
930 days ago
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Sounds like a good rule to me. Does that make us less loyal than our parents? My students just don't seem to root for anybody at one time? Anyway, I like your rule.
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
930 days ago
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Less loyal Saddleshoe? Absolutely.
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IlliniEdVarsity
930 days ago
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See this is when you try and mld the young impressionable minds to root for your team. If the parents are guiding them in the right direction, I think you as a teacher should tak ethat responsibility upon yourself.
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JuTMSY4Legend
930 days ago
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I wrote about this (I'll mention it again for self promotion)

http://www.a...es_of_Fandom

Yes, a lot of people take on their parent's form, and I think its fair...
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IlliniEdVarsity
930 days ago
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Darn right they do. When I have kids, they will root for the White Sox and the Bears or I will disown them. Maybe not disown them, but I will treat them lessfavorably then my kids that do root for the Bears and Sox. Gotta raise the kids right.
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False ProphetAll-Star
930 days ago
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Ju, if I picked the patriots for no particular reason in 2000 when I was young and knew nothing about football, is that equivilant to picking out of a hat?
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
930 days ago
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I agree with IlliniEd. Bears, Cubs & Bulls are mandated or its the streets for the Briggs' household. However for hockey, I could care a less...
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
930 days ago
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"... in 2000 when I was young" - Damn False Prophet, how old are you? 14?
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JuTMSY4Legend
930 days ago
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No, because I think you're full of shit FP...I have a friend who became a yankees fan during the '96 season and I berate him any time he gloats...I think its disgusting...

If you take any pride in your football team, it better be the vikings...

Look, even if we mock a royals fan from KC, at least he has the balls to be a royals fan now and show his face (or the vagina? and show her face). They deserve props for handling adversity
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False ProphetAll-Star
930 days ago
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I'm a minor, and you know that. I keep my personal info private because it's irrelivant. But, if I am 17, i'd have been 10 in 2000. That's still young
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False ProphetAll-Star
930 days ago
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never. Never never never never. I won't be a Purple fan. Never. The only team's I'd rather not be a fan of are the Texans, Colts, Jets, Seahawks, Lions, and whoever Mike Vick plays for (so as of now, ATL). I'm not full of shit. I was a pats fan during the Bledsoe era.
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False ProphetAll-Star
930 days ago
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...because he was good on Backyard Football, which was my first football game. (I've since become addicted to Madden, thankfully)
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JuTMSY4Legend
930 days ago
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If by bledsoe era you mean the first 6 or so games of 2000, then yes, you were...

Look, i've been at eagles fan since i could hold my head up and stare at a TV...I was raised on cunningham, no one else and a defense that could kick the living crap out of anyone (and did...ask the redskins)...I've seen Buddy Ryan (thanks Chi guys) flip his lid numerous times and put bounties on kickers heads...

FP, you are a cowboys fan to me ("cockroach" - eskin) and why, do you not root for the vikings...you like the wild, twins and wolves...
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False ProphetAll-Star
930 days ago
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I can't explain why. I've hated the Vikings since I was young. Here's how it happened. I was a packers fan when I was really young because it was the only other team I knew. Then, I was a Broncos fan for Elway's last season (I'll admit, that was bandwagon jumping). Then, Elway retired, and the bronco's sucked. So I took the team of the next best QB on Backyard Football, which was Bledsoe. I follow the Vikings and the Packers (local angle), and root for the titans because I like VY. I couldn't give a shit about the titans beyond VY, but want him to succeed. Beyond that, I'm a bandwagon NBA fan untill the Wolves show me they can actually do something other than finnish 9th or 10th in the West, get screwed in the lottery, and not make the playoffs the next season
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IlliniEdVarsity
930 days ago
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Actually less then 6 games. If mememory serves me correctly, Bledsoe played in the first three games, got hurt and Brady went 11-2. I could be wrong. Even if you include the one playoff game theat Bledsoe did play in the total is still four. And if you include the playoffs from the previous year that were in 2000, you still ahve 4 games. That must have been a tough era to live through. Try living through the MOses Moreno era. The Cade McClown era. The Dick Juaron Era or the Dave Wannstedt era. Those are eras kid.
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IlliniEdVarsity
930 days ago
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Did you notice that he seemed to follow Super Bowl winners with every team he picked but has committed to none. He was a Packer fan when Favre was Amazing and won a superbowl. Became a Broncos fan after the Broncos beat the Pack in the SuperBowl. After they started sucking, he picked hte Pats. I think he is just missing the one year of hte Rams winning it all and he would have hit almost every team along the way.
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JuTMSY4Legend
930 days ago
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Yeah, i'll admit I we're lucky with reid...anyone who says they'd rather lose all the time than come up just short is a fool...I'd take 1 Super Bowl loss to 1 crap season anyday... I'm sorry FP, but I really can't say that's right...
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
930 days ago
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I'm curious on False Prophet's opinion of Terry Bevington?
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JamelAll-American
930 days ago
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I hate the twins. And anything Arizona.
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IlliniEdVarsity
930 days ago
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I would rather have a super bowl loss to one crap season without a doubt, but the pain that comes from coming that close is unbearable. Look at the Bears this year. I still havent acknowledged that hte game has happened at that was 2 months ago.
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False ProphetAll-Star
930 days ago
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but I was a Pack fan because they were the main rival of the vikings. I swear that I followed the Pats starting in 99, when Bledsoe was still there. Jst, if you want to continue this, I'll take it up on IM. We're probably not going to be saying anything new, so there's no point in calling attention to a stupid back and forth without any progress or new points
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JuTMSY4Legend
930 days ago
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Yeah Ed...I was in denial/didn't watch/do/write anything sports related for at least a month and didn't read eagles stuff until the following august (thanks T.O.) when the eagles lost in '04. I also lived in Boston at the time...i closed the blinds during the parade...bastards...
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
930 days ago
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EVERYONE (but False Prophet and Leslie) hates the Twins.
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IlliniEdVarsity
930 days ago
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That has to be horrible living in the town tahat beat you. However, I have to deal with being hte team that gave Goober Manning his first title. Same thing happened to me when the Illini lost to UNC of all teams. It just hurt that much more.
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JuTMSY4Legend
930 days ago
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I'm working FP...but I don't think there's a point, we've discussed this before...

Its not that I think any lesser of you sportswise...I just can't understand how people can pick a team that way...of course, I won't be able to truly get it until someone wins

maybe i'm a glutton for punishment
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JuTMSY4Legend
930 days ago
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Yeah, i lost a few bets too... I'm just glad i didn't take the "Streak during the parade" bet...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
930 days ago
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I think it is perfectly acceptable to be involved as a fan on ANY level... Ultimately, YOU determine how much it means to yourself and anyone else shouldn't really matter...
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
930 days ago
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Just like hating Jay Mariotti. In that case, I agree.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
930 days ago
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spread the word, brother (somewhere else - we got the point)
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
930 days ago
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I like it here.
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JamelAll-American
930 days ago
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I like the Toronto Blue Jays
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IlliniEdVarsity
930 days ago
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No you dont, you like Taco Bell. Anyone name that movie? And jamel, you like Beer and not the Blue Jays. its not a type of beer or porn mag.
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
930 days ago
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Just wondering if Philly fans ever forgave Williams for not being CLUTCH against Carter?
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JuTMSY4Legend
930 days ago
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Ok Briggs, now your being a jerk...
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JuTMSY4Legend
930 days ago
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Ditka or a hurricane?

Ditka!

Wait...the Hurricane's name is Ditka...

ooohhhhhh
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
930 days ago
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They don't get to a World Series without him - and his pinch GW hit in the second game of that uber-rain delayed double header at 4:45am was one of the craziest sports events I ever watched (on TV or elsewhere)
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
930 days ago
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Ever been to Ditka's restaurant? Damn good menu and NO fried chicken.
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JuTMSY4Legend
930 days ago
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and the sox didn't get to game 7 of the ALCS w/o Pedro or wakefield... For that matter...do they get to the series in '86 w/ buckner?
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JuTMSY4Legend
930 days ago
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Only been through O'Hare...But I plan on visiting in the fall...
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
930 days ago
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Get to Ditka's. Good food, good people, good times with neat memorabilia.
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Clayton St. John Smythe Esq.Varsity
930 days ago
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I second that Tyrone, I had my wedding rehersal dinner at Ditkas and always take my inlaws there. Those pork chops are unbelievable and you can still smoke cigars there despite the ban most places. We've actually talked with Iron Mike a couple of times over the years as well. When he asked us how our dinner was, I said "Terrible" and pointed to my empty plate. He just shook his head. Also there's this waitress we always get there who I've seen at V.I.P.'s (on weed street?) a couple of times. HOT.
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
930 days ago
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Agreed Mr. Smythe. Da Coach definitely knows how to properly hire the waitresses.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
930 days ago
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Websitethejoke.com doesn't have any loyal fans...
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
930 days ago
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Incorrect. Zorn and Greenstein love the blog.
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SaddleshoeJV Squad
930 days ago
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I like the Twins. I don't root for them, but I will watch them if they are playing a strong team. I have no hatred for the Twins. I have no hatred for the Blue Jays, either. I hate the Red Sox. That, I can't help. But, I do watch them if they are playing a team I really like, like Detroit, for example.
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
930 days ago
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A few posters here will definitely change that hate vibe for the Twins in due time.
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Willf123JV Squad
928 days ago
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When the Red Sox and Patriots won championships it was extra sweet because I endured so many 1-15, 2-14 seasons and September/October swoons. While you do not necessarily have to root for a specific team, it does make you feel a part of something bigger when your fav team finally wins and you get bragging rights. At least till next season.
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JuTMSY4Legend
928 days ago
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so what you're saying is...you get it... I'd give you multiple +s too, if i could...
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