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by user Tylersarticles

Note: This article was originally posted at tylersarticles.blogspot and mvn.com during Spring Training. A lot has happened since this this article was written. B.J. Upton is now the starting second baseman. Rocco Baldelli is still the centerfielder, but Elijah Dukes will play there during the opening series against the Yankees. He belted his first career homerun in his first official at bat in Monday's loss. Dukes will still fill the 4th outfielder role when Baldelli's hamstring is ready to go. Greg Norton was expected to be the everyday designated hitter, but he recently had knee surgery and will be out 4-6 weeks. Jonny Gomes and Dukes will see the majority of at bats in that role until Norton returns. According to Joe Maddon, Upton will still see some time in centerfield where he saw about half of his innings during Spring Training. Ty Wiggington and Brendan Harris will fill in at second base in that scenario.

The Tampa Bay Devil Rays are in a shortage of quality starting pitching, but they have more talented young outfielders than there are Starbucks in St. Petersburg. Considering there is basically a Starbucks on every street corner nowadays, you may think I am joking, but I am surprisingly not. The Rays have six potential All Star outfielders in camp this spring, but there are only four Starbucks locations in St. Pete.

Clearly, the Rays top outfield prospect right now is Delmon Young. Young, the Rays first overall pick in the 2004 draft, is best known to most moderate baseball fans simply as the guy that threw the bat at the umpire. Still, some scouts are calling him the right handed version of a young Ken Griffey Jr. Will he end up being that good? Probably not, but the possibility alone gives all Devil Rays something to smile about, a rarity in the past 10 years. Young is the consensus top prospect in baseball for a variety of respected baseball publications and is a strong candidate for the American League ROY. To do so, Young needs to become a more selective hitter, adjust his attitude off the field, and feed off the other young talent surrounding him in the clubhouse this year.

Most baseball fans know about Carl Crawford, the triples and stolen base king, who would be a marquee player nationally if he wasn't playing in such a small market. In my opinion, Crawford is going to have his best season yet in 2007 because he looks ready to hit for more power. Also, Crawford will have a better lineup around him to work with which will improve his RBI and runs totals. Rocco Baldelli is finally healthy and will be a mainstay in centerfield. The Baldelli, Crawford, Young trio will roam Tropicana Field this year and now give the Devil Rays one of the most formidable outfields in all of baseball.

But what about the other young outfielders that need to play? Do you send them to Durham to receive at bats?

I personally think B.J. Upton is going to end up playing centerfield in the long run. I also think he will be a star there for many years. In 2007, will Upton get the innings he needs playing in a utility/Chone Figgins role? Upton needs his at bats, will get them, but not having a set position could severely hurt his development as a player for the long term. Why not make room for him now?

Then, there is Elijah Dukes. Dukes is arguably the most talented outfield prospect in the organization, but his off the field issues have raised eyebrows too many times. Amazingly, for someone with Dukes talent, he is not even in Baseball America's list of Top 50 prospects. Dukes will most certainly make the club out of spring training, but will see a limited role as a reserve outfielder. With the logjam the Devil Rays have in their outfield, will Dukes ever get the opportunity to play everyday?

Then you have to think about other position players that could play the outfield among other positions this year.

Jonny Gomes is a primary outfielder, but could just throw his glove out for this year because the only role he will be filling is as the designated hitter. Akinori Iwamura is a solid defensive infielder, but has the versatility to play the outfield as well. Greg Norton could fill in at a corner outfield spot, but will platoon in the DH role with Gomes.

The Devil Rays have six legitimate outfielders, but, arguably, only have one legitimate starting pitcher. Why not make a move for a pitcher using any of the following outfielders as bait? Their philosophy is to generate pitching internally, but as it has not worked in the past, and I don't think it will now either. A talent like Scott Kazmir is few and far between as far as pitchers go. Even more so for the Rays, an organization whose first round pitchers over the past ten seasons have combined to win just 23 games at the big league level for the team. With the majority of their prospects making the major league minimum, Baldelli and Crawford locked up for a few more years, it is time to make a deal for some pitching. Honestly, with the inflated market, what are the chances they resign any of their outfielders in three of four years anyway? Don't even mention Kazmir. If Crawford was a free agent this off season, he would be expecting similar money to Gary Matthews Jr. (10 million a year) and Kazmir would be worth more than twice as much as overpaid Kansas City Royal, Gil Meche.

It's nice to think about Kazmir, Jeff Niemann, Mich Talbot and the current outfield bringing post season baseball to Interstate 275 in the next five years, but odds are, the nucleus they are building the organization around, will not be in tact any way because of logistics.

Where will Kazmir be in 2010? What about Rocco Baldelli? Upton? I hope they will be Rays, but unless there are drastic changes financially, the Rays will not have the funds to keep any of these players. Can you say Montreal Expos of the early 1990s?

There is no question, the surplus of outfielders need to be dealt with in a way that is beneficial to the goals of the organization. The Rays need to take risks, but they can only go up from the point they are at now. Right now, as the laughing stock of the AL East, they have nothing to lose. However, they could gain more credibility with their fans and people in the Tampa Bay area by attracting another front line starter by giving up an Baldelli or an Upton. This will let Rays fans know that management is serious about the future, but also the present and will help increase the crowds at the Trop.

Imagine if Josh Hamilton was having the same spring he is having with the Reds for the Devil Rays. The government might intervene for a monopoly of outfield talent.


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TylersaltAll-Star
974 days ago
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Dukes is actually starting in center field and Baldelli seems to be ensconced as the everyday DH with his injury history and sub-par springs from Jonny Gomes and Jorge Cantu.
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TylersarticlesWaterboy
974 days ago
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I wrote this article during spring training. Upton is starting at second base. Actually, Baldelli is the centerfielder, but Dukes played will play there during the opening series against the Yankees. He belted his first career homerun in his first official at bat in Monday's loss. Dukes will still fill the 4th outfielder role when Baldelli's hamstring is ready to go. Greg Norton was expected to be the everyday designated hitter, but he recently had knee surgery and will be out 4-6 weeks. Jonny Gomes and Dukes will see the majority of at bats in that role until Norton returns. According to Joe Maddon, Upton will still see some time in centerfield where he saw about half of his innings during Spring Training. Ty Wiggington and Brendan Harris will fill in at second base in that scenario.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
974 days ago
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Baldelli has a tweaked hammy too, so they're trying to limit his fielding to prevent it from being worsened. There was talk about Dukes going to Durham and learn to play first (I think he's got too good an arm and wheels to NOT play OF)
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
974 days ago
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A Devil Rays article? On Armchair? WTF? =D

I guess you're not aware that there's been new ownership in place for the last 16+ months (in fact, most of the "issues" you mention are soooo 2006). Money isn't a problem Stu Sternberg is a financial guru. They're just fiscally more responsible than Naimoli was cheap... they're gonna need to make a decision at some point on who to keep and who to deal (Gomes and/or Baldelli?), but count on Kazmir to get resigned...

Upton is kinda stuck at 2b for now. Jamie Shields is a legitimate #2-3 starter.

Letting Hamilton go in the Rule V draft wasn't a dumb thing for the Rays to do. It was a calculated risk. He has to stay on the Reds active roster all season or he gets returned to the Rays for a mere $20k. They had other guys to protect more than a dude with 15 games played int he last 4 years. Besides, let's not fill out his HoF plaque quite yet... I think Hamilton and Cris Carter (only catches TDs) got a similar break... (we let you go for your own good; go get a change of scenery and your nose out of the junk)
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TylersarticlesWaterboy
974 days ago
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Hamilton will have to clear waivers for him to be sent back to the Devil Rays. That just won't happen. Still, you are right. There is no room for Hamilton in the Rays outfield anyways and a change of scenery was best for him. It is good he has the shot to catch on with the Reds, but no one is filling out his HOF plaque. The new progressive ownership is certainly a lot better now than it was in the Naimoli era, but revenues are also going to be an issue in the St. Pete market. They did not make any dumb Gil Meche like decisions during the offseason, but they will need to lock up a lot of their talent for the long term. If Zito is getting 126 million, what will Kazmir get when he is eligible to be a free agent? Sternberg may be a financial guru, but locking up their young core of outfielders will be a challenge.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
974 days ago
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there's no waivers to clear when you've been drafted via Rule V. You must remain on the 25 man roster all season. If you get demoted, the team that you got drafted from can pay a $25k (sorry, it used to be 20k) transaction fee (or another player) and you go back. The Rays get first right of refusal and wouldn't even have to protect him on the 40-man roster.
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TylersarticlesWaterboy
974 days ago
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From Marc Topkin of the St. Pete Times,

"To retain Hamilton as a Rule 5 pick, the Reds must keep him on the 25-man roster (or the major-league disabled list for part of the year). If not, they must put him on waivers - probably by Wednesday - and he likely would be claimed."

That must have been during spring training only because the rules are that the drafted player must remain on the choosing team's active roster (or disabled list) all season long or he must be offered back to the previous team for $25,000.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
974 days ago
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yeah, that was before the season started. He could have been on 28 different teams before the regular season, once he hits a ML roster on opening day, they gotta keep him on a ML roster. This is also how the Cubs could draft him in Rule V then trade him to the Reds...
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TylersarticlesWaterboy
974 days ago
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Baseball America- We can't publish the comment because it part it was from Baseball America's site. But it pointed that Josh Hamilton can declare free agency if clears waivers and is offered back to the Rays because he's been placed on waivers once.
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TylersarticlesWaterboy
974 days ago
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Oh, you are the guy that Silverman bid to blog during the season. Congratulations. I read about you in the St. Petersburg Times. Good luck with that.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
974 days ago
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I'll be in St Pete's in three weeks to do interviews, meet with the media, see a couple games and do a live running blog on the Monday night game on ESPN vs the Yankees, etc...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
974 days ago
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(almost forgot) Go Devil Rays!
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TylersarticlesWaterboy
973 days ago
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From what I saw during Spring Training, Upton looked very comfortable at second, but it is a shame his strong arm has to be wasted on the right side of the infield. At a game against the Pirates in Bradenton, Upton nearly through a runner tagging up out at the plate from very close to the warning track in right field. It was fun to watch. I hope he finally has the breakout season everyone has been waiting for since he was drafted in 2002.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
973 days ago
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you can use the second baseman as a cutoff man in certain situations.
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KelsdadAll-Star
973 days ago
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If the Reds decide to return Hamilton, he goes back to the Rays for 25 grand, without clearing waivers. If the Rays refuse to take him back, he must clear waivers before the Reds can send him down. If the Rays claim him, he does not have to clear waivers to be sent down.

I seriously doubt the Rays would keep Dukes on the roster as a fourth outfielder. He has less experience than any of the other guys and him rotting on the bench would do more harm than good.

Upton has bad hands and feet, so the left side of the infield is out. You can bury a guy like that at second because neither of those attributes are a requirement of being a good second baseman.
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TylersarticlesWaterboy
973 days ago
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There is talk that Dukes will be sent to Durham, but it looks like if he is going to be on the 25 man roster for a while. He will certainly not be the everyday centerfielder when Baldelli's hamstring is healthy. Upton looked great in the outfield this spring and I would not be surprised if he ends up playing centerfield later in his career. His younger brother Justin, the number one pick in 2005, has made the transition from shortstop to center smoothly and I think B.J. will do the same. Until someone else emerges at second base for the Devil Rays, Upton will eventually stay there. The organization appears to have lost all of their faith in Jorge Cantu's defense at the position and he will start the season as a designated hitter in AAA Durham.
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KelsdadAll-Star
973 days ago
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Ouch!! In 2005, Cantu' had the same amount of RBI's as Albert Pujols, now he's a DH! in Triple A!! Upton had played some OF in the spring, and Dukes at first. Cantu' played the normal time expected of a regular in the spring, now all of a sudden everything's changed. Some behind the scenes events at the last minute happened for sure, this whole thing is playing out very weird.
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TylersarticlesWaterboy
973 days ago
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They lost faith in Cantu's defense at second base. His inability to turn the double play raised a lot of eyebrows during Spring Training. If he can return to his 117 RBI form, he will wind up in the big leagues somewhere regardless of his defense.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
973 days ago
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That and his sub-.300 OBP in 2006 probably did it.
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