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Should Oden and Durant even be first round picks?

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by user Stumptown

I love to make sports predictions and mouth off about what I think is going to happen for a player or team or anything else in the world of sports. I find that being right in that situation allows you lots of bragging rights and no one really holds you to it when you’re wrong. So far my favorite “got it right” was when I called a local sports talk station before the NBA draft last year in response to a local beat writer who said the Blazers should offer every player on their roster to get the first pick so they could take Adam Morrison. I called in and said Morrison had a ceiling of Mike Miller and probably wasn’t that good and that the best player in the draft was Brandon Roy and that if the Blazers moved up they should take Aldridge. They ripped me for that on the air, but I’ve been bragging about that ever since.

But for every time like that when I called it right, there are 50 times when I was wrong. Truthfully, I follow sports fairly religiously now and that has greatly boosted my ability to call things right. Still, I’m haunted by one particular goof. The biggest Ryan Leaf call of my sports fan career is the cause for this article. It is none other than Mr. Tim Duncan. I thought he was going to be a bust. It sounds absurd now, but I honestly did. I watched him play in the ACC and he seemed soft. I just thought, this guy has the tools, but no heart and plus he can’t jump. I openly told people that he would be at the end of someone’s bench and never get off by the end of his first year. Hmmmm…guess I was a little off on that one.

To compound my mistake I argued about it repeatedly with my friend John who got me involved in his fantasy basketball league. John took Duncan with the last pick of the first round his rookie year. I made fun of him for weeks until I finally had to eat so much crow I started sprouting feathers. Duncan is, of course, a great player and looking back I should have seen then what the rest of the world did. But even more surprising to me was that Duncan was immediately an impact fantasy player.

I know we are months and months away from the start of the next NBA season and fantasy basketball drafts, but I’m still curious. Which of this year’s rookies will be worth drafting and how high will the first rookie go? Assuming you don’t play in a keeper league, do you take Oden or Durant in the first round? Second? Assume they go to Portland and Seattle as predicted. Then assume Seattle lets Rashard go. Both of those guys are getting lots of PT. I think both guys are impact fantasy players their first years, but I think Durant will put up the better numbers of the two. Still, I don’t see taking either of them before the 3 rd round in an open draft with no keepers. Am I crazy? Should they even go that high? On the flip side, if they don’t go in the first round this year it could very well be the last year of their careers they aren’t lock first round picks.

For what it’s worth, depending on where they go, here are the guys I think could make a fantasy impact as rookies: Oden, Durant, Thornton, Brewer, Green, Yi and Horford. It is really too early to make such predictions, but watching Duncan tear things up reminded me of that fantasy season when John crushed me on the back of his Duncan prophesy and I started thinking about fantasy hoops and how to avoid that happening again.

I guess I could start by not being a freakin idiot.


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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
897 days ago
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Oden and Durant are the real goods. Good article by the way.
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StumptownJV Squad
894 days ago
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Agreed about Durant and Oden. And thanks.
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KelsdadAll-Star
897 days ago
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Rashard is already gone.
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Dukeboy999Varsity Captain
897 days ago
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Great article, but what does it say about our sports culture that we are concerned more with fantasy potential than on court potential.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
896 days ago
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who is "we"?
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StumptownJV Squad
894 days ago
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Well, I wouldn't go that far, but i do think the rise in fantasy sports popularity is driven to some degree (maybe small) by an over fascination with sports and the ultimate desire to justify the hours we dedicate to it by trying to convince ourselves that it really matters to our life. I mean, I love sports more than most, but in the end, whether a team of total strangers wins or loses changes very little for me. hence our desire, to become part of the action. Just a minor point, but part of the equation.
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Taytay 24All-American
896 days ago
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They wanted to trade the whole team for Morrison? Am I the only one who knew he would be a bust? Surely that moustache was a dead giveaway.
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StumptownJV Squad
894 days ago
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You weren't the only one, but you (and I) were in the minority. Remember he still went very high. I think everyone saw the desire and the high scoring average and thought he was more special than he is. I'm not a huge combine numbers guy, but I saw a guy too slow and unathletic to consistently get his own shot and then noticed that unlike Bird (who he was shamefully likened to), he had no other great basketball skills (passing, D, rebounding, etc). That's a recipe for a bust unless he goes in the second round. could still be a usefully roll player off the bench, but not a franchise guy. Why more people didn't see that is a mystery.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
896 days ago
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Allow me to get all Kreskined up: Were Oden and Durant first rounders in 1997? No. 2007? Probably...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
896 days ago
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My jury is out on Durant for another year... I think he's going to have a tough rookie year. What is he going to have around him for support? Jesus Shuttlesworth?

Oden will take some knocks, but you know he is naturally talented and you won't be depending on his stats for anything other than rebs and blocks. Points will be sporadic and appreciated.

I don't think it's unwise to go for known commodities. ANYONE can hurt, rookies, stars... so you're taking a chance every time.
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StumptownJV Squad
894 days ago
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I don't have any idea what that means, but I agree with your other comments below except for that in the fantasy game, lack of good teammates around a player can sometimes improve their numbers. If Rashard gets traded, doesn't Durant get asked to shoot 20 times a game and play 38 minutes?
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