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Schilling Should Stay with the Red Sox

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by Www.DugoutCentral.com

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Published by Will Hoover on November 4, 2007 01:31 pm under Free Agents, Red Sox

When Boston’s World Series roster was announced and Tim Wakefield’s name wasn’t on it, was it a sign of things to come for Curt Schilling? Wakefield’s health could a deciding factor for the future of Schilling staying in Boston. Oh, the irony.

After a two-month trip to the DL with shoulder tendonitis, Schilling announced to the world that his pitching style had changed. He claimed he has made a seamless transition from a power to finesse pitcher, and based on the late regular and post-season results, you can’t argue with him. Schilling could no longer consistently blow the fastball by hitters; he needed to have more command to be effective. He is now a competitive marksman, a fine complement to his power four-seam teammates Josh Beckett, Daisuke Matsuzaka.

2007 was a season of transition for Schilling, one where he watched his mantel as Boston’s ace pass to Beckett, then watched Matsuzaka become the team’s number two starter. Schilling rarely if ever complained; he’s a good soldier who said all the right things. He took the demotion in stride, seizing the opportunity to be a clubhouse leader and demonstrate his value to the team in other ways. He did all this with dignity and grace, relishing the chance to help develop Boston’s young arms, much like Roger Clemens did for the Astros and Yankees over the past three years. It’s no surprise Schilling would have that same impact for the Sox. Both men are legendary pitchers who can use that status to be unparalleled mentors.

Schilling still has excellent mound presence, and as long as he’s on the hill, he will want to be the guy with the ball when the game is on the line. He’s no longer a guy who can dominate opposing line-ups for seven or more innings, but he remains effective and reliable as a five-six inning starter. Schilling must now be creative, adjusting to hitters and changing his pitch sequences. Advance/video scouting has always been important to Schilling’s game preparation, but now it’s vital. (Meticulous game preparation is another aspect of Schilling the Sox would love to have rub off on their younger pitchers.)

In 2008, Boston will have Jon Lester and Clay Buchholz in the rotation. And with the health and performance uncertainties surrounding the 41-year-old Wakefield, the Sox need a reliable veteran in the rotation who can show these guys how to keep winning. Remember too, if Pitching Coach John Farrell departs for the managerial job in Pittsburgh, Schilling’s strong presence would be needed even more.

Finally, starting pitching is always a premium, and this year’s free agent market is a shallow one. Need proof? Carlos Silva is the best arm out there. Really, there shouldn’t be any question about bringing Schilling back, especially since he only wants a one-year deal and will likely give the Sox a hometown discount.

Schilling’s two-year totals

Year W L IP H R ER HR BB SO ERA *lgERA WHIP

2006 15 - 7 204.0 220 90 90 28 28 183 3.97 4.75 1.216

2007 9 - 8 151.0 165 68 65 21 23 101 3.87 4.74 1.245

2007 Post Season

3-0 23.3 25 7 7 3 3 16 3.00 * 1.17

If the Sox were willing to pay Roger Clemens $18 million to be five/six inning pitcher for three quarters of a season in ‘07, bringing Schilling back in 08’ for $13 million is a no-brainer. Both are Red Sox icons, but only one has brought two World Series championships to Boston. It’s not like the Red Sox wouldn’t have options with Schilling.

A quasi-Clemens schedule wouldn’t be a bad idea, given how effective Schilling was with five or more days of rest. The Sox might allow Schilling to start once a week (i.e., every Sunday), go to a six-man rotation, or start Schilling’s schedule later in the season, with regularly scheduled rests.

Considering how strong he came back from the DL, one more year of Schilling should be a done deal. In 2007, the SOX gave J.D. Drew $15 million for 12 games of outstanding production leading to their second World Series win in four years. Surely Schilling, and another World Series victory in 2008, is worth $13 million.


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ThefoullineJV Squad
757 days ago
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I like the idea of bringing back Schilling. I think another year of tutoring Jon Lester and Clay Buchholz would be huge for their development. The key for Schilling is for him to actually workout this offseason and come into camp in decent shape, instead of spending all of his time with his video game company.
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
757 days ago
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When you only throw 150 innings in a year, it's much easier to have a good post-season. I think Schilling simply cannot give a team 180+ innings of work in a year. He's becoming Roger Clemens. I think the Red Sox should seriously consider spending that money on a pitcher who can go an entire season.
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RomiezzoLegend
757 days ago
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So do I, Rawbeezeitz. Schilling can really do well in the postseason, but it takes pitching in the season to get to the postseason. I have a feeling that Dice-K is going to do a little bit better than he has last year. Then you have Lester, Buchholz, and Beckett; all under the age of 30. Then, you have Tim Wakefield, the knuckleball specialist. Thank God we have John Farrell, that's all I can say.
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
757 days ago
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We might not have John Farrell for long. I want Johan Santana on the team. It's a pipe dream, and we'd have to give up a lot, but he's amazing.
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HappyskinnyAll-American
757 days ago
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Farrell already declined an interview request for manager of the Pirates. I know it's the Pirates, but I think he is pretty committed to staying with the Red Sox at least for this year.
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The PipDiv-I Stud
757 days ago
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Farrell is very good, but Variteck is the key to our pitching staff's performance. We need to get him a kid he can mentor, ASAP!
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RomiezzoLegend
756 days ago
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Rawbeezeitz, Johan Santana is a very good pitcher, and getting him definitely wouldn't hurt at all. Plus, he's a lefty. You don't find many good lefty starters nowadays.
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TylersaltAll-Star
756 days ago
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I feel like to get Santana they'd have to put together a package of Crisp + either or both of Lester and Buchholz + cash/other prospects... is that worth it?
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The PipDiv-I Stud
757 days ago
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No way on Schilling. He had a rough season due to injuries and trying to convert his style of pitching. Whether he can adapt his style as Pedro has from a power pitcher to a control guy is a big question. Add in his GIGANTIC EGO and I say NO! Go away, you did your part, and I will always be thankful, but this is a business and he is a liability. He has no desire to be a mentor, he desires to feed his ego. He will be a cranky old distraction in boston next year. If he has a tough time next season the media and fans in Boston will treat WORSE than we treated Drew this year, and he will not deal well with it. He'll call into the talk radio shows weekly and "defend" himself. He'll cry about it on his blog and he won't let the team use him as the fifth starter. No he's done in this town, and this town is done with him. We res[ect the business aspect of sports but filing for free agency right after the WS parade does not win you support in this town. His big fat arrogant @ass can go away, like tomorrow and I won't cry. Yeah, we'll need a fifth and sixth starter but I'd rather have a another rookie or someone off the free agency. Free agency for pitching is shallow this year, but not for a fifth starter. There are some steals to be found there and we'll get one.
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The PipDiv-I Stud
757 days ago
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I apologize for my stellar command of the english language.  :gag:
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XinophDraft Pick
757 days ago
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I am of two minds on this. I see the strong arguments that the Sox shouldn't be spending money on a pitcher like Schill, especially with Lester & Buchholz waiting in the wings. But, it would be a shame to have him finish his career with another team. If we can get him to come back without spending an unreasonable degree of money on him, it'd be awesome to have him finish here; otherwise we should let him walk.
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TyduffyRed-Shirting
756 days ago
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They aren't going to resign Schilling, unless one of their current starters has a horrific car accident.

They already have lined up for next year Beckett, Matsuzaka, Wakefield, Lester, and Buchholz. They also picked up the option on Tavarez to serve as the spot starter if they need him. They also have depth with some pitching prospects in the minor leagues.

Schilling is too expensive and too much of a headache. He also has nothing left. He was pitching on fumes in the post-season.
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JuTMSY4Legend
756 days ago
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Tavarez may end up being their best pitching "acquisition" this off-season (that is to say, keeping him was smart)

I think the value in schill isn't so much that they need a #2 or 3, but rather a mentor to Lester, Buchholz and perhaps matsuzaka and even Beckett (not really, but what the hell)

I think, if you're the sox, you're really losing no one special besides schilling and lowell. You sign those guys (schilling - 13 mil for 1 yr is a no brainer, lowell will be difficult given the 4th year). After that, what else is really breaking up the 2007 WS winning team...nothing besides a few bench players...other than Mirabeli (to catch wake), who else isn't simply replaceable...don't forget, you've got a crisp-drew-ramirez-ellsbury outfield...if there isn't a trade there, you've got a 4th outfielder in, assumably, crisp to fill in as needed...
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The PipDiv-I Stud
756 days ago
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Lowell should be re-signed. If they don't then I will be sad but not worried. Move Youk to 3rd and find some slugger to play 1st for a lot cheaper than Lowell. Heck put Papi at 1st and bring in a DH. The outfield has 5 players deep, you forgot about Keilty.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
756 days ago
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Schilling didn't become a full time starter until he joined the Philies in 1992 making it almost impossible to win 300 games since he still needs 84 more wins. In the 1994-1996 seasons with Phillies he won a total of 18 games another reason why he won't win 300 games.
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JuTMSY4Legend
756 days ago
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it was hard to win games in 1994...for anyone...
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Niteowl049AAA-er
756 days ago
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very true...1994 was the strike year.
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