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Roger Clemens Pitches in Relief. Why?

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by user The shark

Roger Clemens was brought into Sunday's game against the San Francisco Giants in the 7th inning to face Barry Bonds.  Realizing that I already know that The Rocket went to the bullpen late last night and warmed up before not being called on by Joe Torre, I have only one (two) question(s):  Why? And WTF?


Fortunately, I also have three answers.  Pick whichever one suits your particular purpose. 


REASON #1: The Yankees' bullpen is really that bad.
Can you really argue with this point?  Let's look more closely: Mariano Rivera has become an average closer.  He has a 4.23 ERA and has allowed more than a hit an inning.  You can't blame him - he's just getting older.  But for the Yankees' sake, it's unfortunate that Big Mo is their best relief pitcher.  Scott Proctor is 1-4 with 3 blown saves.  His 3.29 ERA may be deceiving because he has not pitched that well.  In 41 innings, Proc has allowed 4 home runs and has walked 19, while only striking out 27.  Mike Myers?  Please... Sure he has a 2.73 ERA, but he's a left-handed specialist.  He is only called into games when the Yanks are winning or barely losing, and he only faces left-handed batters.  In 37 appearances, Myers has only pitched 29 innings.  And his walk/strikeout ratio is a paltry 11/13.  Not great.  Brian Bruney?  2.01 ERA, but 23 walks versus 26 strikeouts.  Kyle Farnsworth?  2 blown saves and a 4.60 ERA.  Anyone else to discuss?  I think not.  Let's face it - Georgie, Cashman, and Crew are desperate.


REASON #2:  By sending Clemens to the bullpen in each of the two previous games, Yankees brass is desperate to send a message to the Clubhouse that Clemens is not being given preferencial treatment.  He actually is travelling with the team and not going home on his off-days to grill brats and golf with his buddies.  Yeah, yeah - I get it.  Roger can play the part.  For now.  What happens in early August when the Yankees are 14 or 15 games back and things start looking worse than they do now?  I'll tell you what happens then:  Clemens will be in Houston more than he's in New York.  Hell, he gets paid either way.  What does he care?  He doesn't.  When the ship starts sinking (ala The Titanic), Roger abandons ship as his brilliantly conceived contract allows him to.  Who could blame him?


REASON #3:  The Yankees realize they made a mistake by signing the "Old Man".  He's 44-years-old, for God's sake.  He spent the last three years striking out pitchers and #8 guys who couldn't get a clubhouse job in the American League.  They signed him, they rushed him along, and even though he was injured (strained groin), they called him up.  Sure, he beat the Pirates in his first start back.  He's Roger-effin'-Clemens - he'd better beat the Pirates.  But after seeing him pitch three times, Cashman and Torre realize that they made a mistake.  This guy is not ready to pitch in The Bigs.  And that realization, at this point. could be a fatal error.  So throw him into the bullpen to get some game-work on his off-days.  That'll help, right?  Again...no.


I gotta tell ya - this whole thing smacks of desperation.  And there's no way it ends well.  Sorry Yankee fans, but Clemens is not your savior.  Better find an October hobby to distract your attention from this year's Playoffs. Because, thankfully, they will be "Pinstripe-Free".


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False ProphetAll-Star
888 days ago
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they did the same thing with pettite earlier in the year. Torre is not the greatest pitching mind in Baseball
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Awrigh01All-Star
888 days ago
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He's still a great manager though. I think his achievements get glossed over.
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False ProphetAll-Star
888 days ago
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totally, but pitching is far from his forte
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The sharkDraft Pick
888 days ago
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Agreed - his handling of a pitching staff leaves a lot to be desired. His weakness in this area was far less obvious 4 or 5 years ago when the rotation and bullpen were both among the best in baseball. How long ago that seems now.
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Kwitt11Varsity Captain
888 days ago
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He used everybody yesterday, and didn't want to go to burn up a lefty specialist just to get Bonds out, so he brought in Clemens b/c his splitter can still get lefties out (although Clemens has actually sucked against lefties the last two years). It's not like his throwing five pitches is going to hurt him or anything; it would probably be a good idea for more managers to try this. (Not that Torre is good at managing a bullpen - Scott Proctor's arm is gonna spontaneously combust at some point in August...)
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WizardmanRed-Shirting
888 days ago
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Meh, so they put in Clemens for a bit. Their bullpen sucks. I don't mind people using starting pitchers in other roles. Heck I was begging for the tribe to put Sabathia in at a pinch hitter this past series with Washington.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
888 days ago
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Can you say "Tampa Bay Rays, 2nd place, AL East"??
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CWY2190Waterboy
888 days ago
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Try this one on for size. Kansas City Royals-4th place. May be happening soon.
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KelsdadAll-Star
888 days ago
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Keep up the enthusiasm, Manny!
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RomiezzoLegend
888 days ago
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What? Is Joe Torre trying to be like Grady Little now?
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KelsdadAll-Star
888 days ago
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How about the Yankees have two off days this week, today is Clemens' regular session day, and as KWitt mentioned, the bullpen is a bit on the overworked side. Maybe if you guys knew anything, you'd realize Torre and Little are the smart one's.
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RomiezzoLegend
888 days ago
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Are you saying that in the playoffs that Little putting Pedro in was the right thing to do? Pedro had pitched the last game before he put him in for one more inning. Little STILL didn't take him out after he gave up one run, and he didn't see the look on his face (Pedro: I don't wanna pitch right now). That was one thing, but I think what Torre did was definitely smarter. Don't take anything offensively. I know that the Yanks need relievers badly and that's why he put Clemens in, but is Clemens USED to pitching in relief. OK, sure, he did it once in the playoffs, and did it early in his career, but still, I kinda think it's the right thing to do, but on the other hand, in a way, it was.
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KelsdadAll-Star
888 days ago
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A starter should have no trouble throwing an inning out of the bullpen. They have a 30-50 pitch, game type bullpen session between starts anyway, so why not? Yes, I think Little was right leaving Pedro in. The next batter, Posada, got a bloop hit, if it was a routine fly ball he'd be a hero. He brought him in, and subsequently left him in, because he knew Pedro was his best option at the time. If Pedro wanted out, then his head should have been shaking north and south instead of east and west.
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RomiezzoLegend
888 days ago
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Well, I don't wanna fuss over whether Little made the right decision or not. I GUESS he could've put him in because the Red Sox hardly had many options for relievers that year, but, IMO, I don't think starters are used to relieving, especially when there are men on base. It puts them in a lot of pressure. Sure, they are in pressure and are in gems, but they make the gems. Relievers' jobs are to help starting pitchers not surrender their earned runs. Do I think starters can do that all the time unless they have experience doing it? No. That's all...
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JuTMSY4Legend
888 days ago
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I'll defend Kelsdad here...Little made the right decision...and I remember watching that game, in boston, with a ton of sox fans who agreed, at the time. You ask your big game ace if he wants to stay in, can he stay in and he says yes? Well...its the biggest game over everyone's career...so why not...if he hadn't done that...how many things would be different today?
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Chris HiteshewSoccer Kid
888 days ago
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It's called desperation, and that is where the Yankees are right now. They need to keep as close as possible to the Sox until they can spend a lot of money and prospects on the trade deadline.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
888 days ago
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Thought Clemens was in Texas with his family so maybe this was Torre's way of letting the fans know Clemens was in California with the team. Can't wait to see how Clemens pitches against Bedard on Wednesday.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
888 days ago
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Devil Rays may be ready to make their run and Manny may be right...they may be in second place by the end of the season.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
887 days ago
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and maybe THEN people will realize that they don't use the D word anymore!!! They're just the Tampa Bay Rays. No 'Devil' anywhere on the uni, not on the tickets, not anywhere in the stadium. Hey, even the Rays tank in the the OF doesn't have any Devil Rays (the biggest ray of them all), but a variety of other smaller rays.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
888 days ago
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Grady Little was made a scapegoat and Red Sox used that excuse to let him go evidently but Red Sox fans who followed the team closer would know if there was more to it than letting Pedro stay in that game.
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JuTMSY4Legend
888 days ago
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Bingo!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
887 days ago
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but if you don't blame someone, then you're not a real BoSox fan!
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
887 days ago
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Clemens is pitching about as effective as Rod Beck these days.
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