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Reasons Europe won the Ryder Cup

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by user Alex Holowczak



  1. United States are not used to matchplay. The Accenture Matchplay is held in lower regard to the World Matchplay on the European Tour. Usually, a European Tour invite is declined by US players (e.g. Woods, Mickelson, Furyk etc.)
  2. United States just don't play well as a team.
  3. Tiger Woods cannot lead as well in matchplay than strokeplay.
  4. Tiger is poor in matchplay himself - Okay, he was top scorer, but he only scored 3 out of 5. Not good for a World Number 1. Also, you may argue that Woods is 8-1 in career playoffs - a matchplay situation. But all of those have been against US opponents, who seemingly are also as bad at matchplay.
  5. United States don't seem to care - In Europe, it has been all over the news for weeks. I have read only 1 article on here about it (until now, besides a humourous view on it). Some people didn't even know it was going to be held at the K Club.
  6. Europe had a better team spirit
  7. The European Team wanted to win it for Darren Clarke, who's wife died recently
  8. The weather - US players cannot play in wind and/or rain (Woods was a rare exception at the Open Championship - he played perfectly although every American was appalled at the manner he played - i.e. irons of the tee when he could take driver)
  9. United States put all their eggs in one basket AGAIN. It didn't work with Woods and Mickelson in 2004, so this time they put World Number 1 and 3 in the same group (Woods and Furyk). Arguably, the 2 and 4 in the US Team were in another group (Mickelson and DiMarco). Those teams had to win games.
  10. Failure to understand matchplay tactics - during the Fourballs, USA played as though it was Singles.
  11. Little team spirit - The European team seemed more into the game than the US
  12. The European Fans - They were brilliant - the roars on the 1st Tee on Friday morning were deafening.
  13. They were underprepared - Mickelson and Furyk were invited to the World Matchplay Championship last week, and declined the invite. They missed a great warm up opportunity. By contrast, Montgomerie, Westwood, Casey, Harrington and many more were there from Europe.
  14. Dodgy selection system - Europe has a great way to select the team, with events closer to the tournament counting more. E.g. an August Tournament will count more than a tournament in March. Also, the majors are not wholly overstressed. As a result, we get the in form players in our team.

So Europe won the Ryder Cup for the third time in a row.

Europe always have the weaker team, but they always seem to win.


Date

Sun 09/24/06, 8:49 am EST


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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1199 days ago
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I can tell you why... who won the what now?

USA, USA, USA!!! (Oh yeah, I guess that stopped being cool in 2002)

What's that you say? The world is beating us in everything? Basketball, men's AND women's??? Baseball? Tennis? Golf?

Wait, let me stop washing down my buttermilk ranch and sundried tomato flavored Cheetos with a diet caffeine free Cherry Vanilla faux-Sasparilla Pepsi and stop reading Entertainment Weekly and change it from the E! channel for a sec and forget about the latest Kevin Federline-Spears pseudogossip to feign giving a damn...

It's not just the sports events. Americans are Lost. (sometimes freedom and capitalism mix too well for the uncommon good.)

If it's bad now, it's going to only get worse! (Thankfully we have so many illegal immigrants that can keep our sports growing with new talent - until they find the remote and the cheetos)
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1199 days ago
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I meant to say, let's have the basketball games on NBA courts and let's play the matches with PGA rules and let's play feetball with NFL rules and see who wins!! The U.S. always ends up playing "International rules" when clearly everyone knows the world revolves around the U.S., specifically New York City (other than the silly Greenwich Mean Time thing...pfft)
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ThecrookedcapAll-Star
1199 days ago
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Quick note: Golf is governed by a rigid set of rules that is cooperatively created by the USGA and the Royal & Ancient. There is no significant rules changes between the two.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1199 days ago
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The rules are different though. The US has different rules that would never be needed in Britain. The rules of golf are dodgy at the best of times, there are rules to cope with a turtle eating the ball and suchlike, or an alligator on the course. Now, Britain would never need those rules, because we don't get those creatures wandering courses. We even employ falcons over courses to get rid of pigeons and such.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1199 days ago
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Oh and Manny, there was once a Paris Mean Time, but the world (bar France and Namibia) chose Greenwich over Paris. It wasn't forced upon them.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1198 days ago
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screw them with an escargot croissant and a fine cabernet savignon... "Bon Jourrrr... frog eating surrender monkeys"
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1198 days ago
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Yes, I know Willie says "cheese-eating surrender monkeys" but I eat cheese, so there.
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ThecrookedcapAll-Star
1199 days ago
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15. They expanded the tournament to Europe vs. USA. They'd be nowhere with the Spaniards and Swedes.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1199 days ago
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I agree completely. But since we are allowed to pick Spaniards and Swedes, what's your point? And also, US are always stronger on paper. USA had the World Number 1, 2 and 3 on their team!
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1199 days ago
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Also, Irishmen. They aren't technically British. Padraig Harrington would be a bit disappointed with you. (Apparently, Joey Harrington is related to him in some way).
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ThecrookedcapAll-Star
1199 days ago
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You'll have to excuse me there. I had written that under the assumption that they had been included since the beginning like in the Walker Cup. It was just my subtle reminder that much of the European success of the Ryder Cup has come on the back on Spanish golfers (Seve, Jose Maria, Sergio) and to a smaller extent Swedish golfers (Jesper). It was meant more as a joke than serious thought.
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ThecrookedcapAll-Star
1199 days ago
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Okay, time to give a different perspective. I love golf and all, but events like the Ryder Cup bug. Why? Well, much of the competition is based is very silly formats, like alternate shot. This is not the stuff of pros, rather of weekend hackers raising money for churches or scholarship funds. Also, Americans don't play in Europe because the money sucks compared to the PGA TOUR. Just Tiger since they pay him extra to do it.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1199 days ago
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To be fair, the tournament I mentioned, the World Matchplay has a prize fund of £1 million to the winner ($1.8 million). Hardly shrimpish! That's more money than the correlating USPGA Tour event that week.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1199 days ago
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The format is designed to encourage team play. If it were just Singles', there would be no way to do it. Also, how else would you hold a team event? Strokeplay would be confusing for everybody. Anyone can understand matchplay, and after the Foursomes and Fourballs are explained, everyone knows what's going on. Besides, it's the same format for both teams, so that can hardly be a reason the USA were so badly beaten. It just seems that this generation of players in the US are weak matchplayers. (Even Lehman said the decision of Mickelson and Furyk to not play at Wentworth the week before was odd).
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ThecrookedcapAll-Star
1199 days ago
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Foursomes are stupid format that are anachronisms of an old style of golf. Where in the hell else does anyone play that kind of bizarre format on an elite level? I love singles and would in my ideal world love to see a format that emphasizes match play more. Match play is a part of modern professional golf (no matter which match play tournament you or I care more). Perhaps one day of foursomes and two of singles? It would involve a good deal of strategy in selection. The point, although you may not see this way Alex, would be to have a more evenly matched event.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1198 days ago
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USA is the better team! It doesn't need evening up. USA lost the Singles' heavily too, so that won't help. I think the real reason is that Europe wants to win.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1198 days ago
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It's good to have a relic of the past still going on. Look at Monte Carlo - the Monaco Grand Prix is the most famous circuit in F1. Ok, it has zero overtaking and is a unique street circuit, and it symbolises pre-war Motorsport. The fact something old-fashioned is still going on in 2006 is why the event is so loved. Europeans are very traditional people.
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ThecrookedcapAll-Star
1198 days ago
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That's true, but if the Ryder Cup had the same logic we wouldn't have Europe vs. US matchups. This event has shown an ability far greater than most to adapt to hold onto some sembelance of relevance, and it is in my opinion that another opportunity has presented itself. Not only is singles a more competitive set-up, result this year be damned (remember Brookline in '99!), but it is a far more attractive format to the television viewer.
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JackdocJV Squad
1199 days ago
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Psychology probably has something to do with the Europeans' success as well. With their recent track record, they expect to win and therefore play with confidence. Much more so for Sergio and Monty than in the majors, where they haven't won yet.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1198 days ago
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USA has been bookies favourite in Britain in every Ryder Cup until this one.
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
1198 days ago
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Reason number 16 - much like the rest of American citizens, the golfers don't really know what the Ryder cup is either.
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Davis21wylieMVP
1198 days ago
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Alex, I would argue that the US didn't necessarily have the better team. Aside from Woods, Mickelson, and Furyk (1-2-3 in the World Golf Rankings), David Toms and Chris DiMarco are next-highest at 15th and 16th, respectively (Campbell is next at 22nd, followed by Cink at 23rd). Meanwhile, Europe has a more balanced lineup top to bottom: Donald (8th), Garcia (9th), Stenson (11th), Howell (13th), Monty (14th), Casey (17th), Olazabal (18th), Harrington (19th), Clarke (24th), etc. McGinley is probably the worst player on Team Europe, easily, and he's really no worse than a handful of the "young guns" on USA -- Vaughn Taylor, Zach Johnson, Brett Wetterich, or J.J. Henry (even though he had a good performance at the K Club).


I'm not making excuses for the Americans, but I don't think it should come as a surprise that they lost; the Europeans have a better team. Woods was mediocre and Mickelson was awful, but even if they had been great, it wouldn't have guaranteed the Ryder Cup. Basically the entire bottom half of the American roster, from DiMarco down, is nothing special... So it's not like this was an upset or anything.
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