armchairgm
all sports, all you
+ Add Friends
You are not logged-in.
Sign Up - Log In
Main Page
Sports
Write
Articles
Hot Links
Images
Meet People
Fun
Explore
MLB - NFL - NBA - NHL - College Basketball - College Football - Soccer - Nascar - Other
Article - Locker Room Discussion
All Articles - New Articles - Today's Articles
Submit a Link - Approve Links
Picture Game - Ratings - Polls - Pick Game - Quiz Game - Spring Silliness
Random Page - Random Image - Random Fan
Edit
Page history Discuss pageWhat links here

Philly Fan Hypocrisy

10
Vote

by Tvern09

"For who? For what?"

Ricky Watters' infamous line following his first game as an Eagle as came to define everything that Philadelphia fans claimed to despise.

The whole idea that Philly fans are 100% about "playing hard" and "giving it your all," is complete BS. While this has always been a tough, blue collar city, with the recent rise in 24/7 sports (ESPN, WIP), the typical Philadelphia fans' attitude has been blown out of proportion so much that we have begun to believe it ourselves. When Aaron Rowand was traded here after the '05 season, it was said that he would be a perfect fit for Philadelphia, even called "the prototypical Philly fan favorite." Well what the hell does that mean: prototypical Philly player?! He wasn't our favorite only a year after the trade, when we were begging Pat Gillick to trade the hard (broken) nosed centerfielder for some bullpen help. Yeah, you heard it right; the "fan favorite" was on the block for middle relief after hitting .262 as the Phils fell short of the playoffs for the 12th straight season.

Our recent history is full of these types of players - the ones perceived to be a perfect fit for the city - but instead of continuing the "play hard" tradition of Philly, all they have done is extend the city's record of futility.

Doubting me already, eh? Some think we would rather lose with hard-nosed players than win with aloof stars? Let's look at a few examples.

Allen Iverson. The definition of leaving it all on the court. The same man who would play through 12 injuries at once (yes, they counted), bang his 5'11, 165 pound frame against guys like Shaq and Ewing while driving to the hole, in a super-human effort to place another W on the board for his Sixers. But in the last few years, no matter how much heart has been shown, the fans have soured on AI. They say that, despite averaging over 7 assists since the '03-'04 season, his apparent lack of ability to act as a true point guard has hindered the Sixers offense. The problem is, with guys like Kenny Thomas, Eric Snow, and the fading prima donna formerly knows as Chris Webber as your second options, having 10 assists a game and simply starting the offense wouldn't make much sense. Despite the overwhelming evidence that AI had little to do with the Sixers' struggles, the fans proved the only thing that matters is the ring.

Terrell Owens. The definition of I. If unprototypical were a word, then T.O would be the unprototypical Philly player. All that is selfish and egotistical is Terrell Owens. But for almost two years, we completely overlooked the obvious, turned a blind eye, and enjoyed the times as the Birds marched towards the Super Bowl, and Owens towards a blow up. It wasn't until the end of Owens' tenure in Philly, after no championship was delivered, that the fans started accusing Owens of being the problem in the locker room and on the field. When the Eagles won, he was a savior; when they lost, it was his head on the stake.

I hate to say it, but we aren't that dissimilar from the fans in Boston, New York, or Chicago. Maybe we don't complain as much, aren't as annoying, and don't blame our futility on curses (i.e. we're smarter), but our views on the success of our teams and players are alike. We boo a Rowand strikeout, New Yorkers boo a Jeter slump, Sox fans call for a Foulke exile only a year after the curse was lifted.

Forget previous success. In the what-have-you-done-for-me-lately world of sports, the desire for championships often puts unwarranted blame on teams' best players. The virus even spreads to the most knowledgeable Philly fans, some of whom accuse the supposed fan favorites Jeremiah Trotter and Brian Dawkins of failing to perform at a high level, while overlooking the effect the sub-par play of the D-line and strong safety would have on the two.

The views and feelings toward even the most blue-collared players of Philadelphia are trumped by the success of the team. And there's the hypocrisy. While fans everywhere would like to believe the Lombardi quote that "winning isn't everything, but the will to win is," that simply isn't true. The reason the city celebrated with the trade for TO wasn't because we were getting a clubhouse guy to make his teammates play harder, it was because we knew, no matter whom he was playing to please, Owens could bring us closer to a ring.

While Philly fans may have earned their image as some of the most passionate in the country, the notion that we would rather watch a mediocre blue-collar athlete than a pompous star is merely a myth. Perhaps another Lombardi quote best defines the mantra of fans in this championship-starved city: "winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."


Enable Comment Auto-Refresher
Bberg11Varsity
816 days ago
Score 1+-
I don't think anyone here wants to sacrifice winning for a hard worker. We want to win, first and foremost. But we also love blue collar athletes; this is true. I think the main reason it seems that we want hard work over skill is because it seems that so often, our teams lose because of lack of effort, or apparent lack of effort. And I think this blue collar attitude applies mostly to the less skilled players. If we're not going to win (and we probably never will) we want guys who play hard.
Permalink | Reply
RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
815 days ago
Score 1+-
Can we throw the term "blue collar athlete" out?
Permalink
Bberg11Varsity
813 days ago
Score 0+-
no
Permalink
Falcon02520Legend
813 days ago
Score 0+-
Last year, (uneducated) Philly fans were calling for Jeff Garcia to be the starting QB and get rid of McNabb. Of coarse we know this would be (another) stupid move if the Eagles did this, but my point is that much of the city was calling for Garcia and his blue collar attitude.
Permalink
Falcon02520Legend
813 days ago
Score 0+-
btw, Bberg, nice response. Every team wants players who win first. But, if we are going to loose, we want players who give a crap and show it on the field.
Permalink
JuTMSY4Legend
815 days ago
Score 0+-
You're right, i wanted them to trade rowand
Permalink | Reply
JuTMSY4Legend
815 days ago
Score 1+-
How can you says Philly fans hated iverson...we/they loved him...it was time to part ways...Iverson was sent somewhere, where he could win and provide the sixers with some parts...
Permalink | Reply
Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
813 days ago
Score 0+-
ever heard of Charles Barkley?
Permalink
Falcon02520Legend
813 days ago
Score 1+-
Don't believe in curses? Wa happened to the Curse of William Penn??? Thats the worst of them all because it applies to all four major sports.
Permalink | Reply
Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
813 days ago
Score 1+-
Jut... hold me back!!!
Permalink
JuTMSY4Legend
813 days ago
Score 0+-
Yeah...i was wondering when you'd step in...
Permalink
JuTMSY4Legend
813 days ago
Score 0+-
sad part is manny...i agree

The phillies are saddled by very bad, money (only) motivated management...

The sixers can't get out of their own way...and billy king is an idiot

The flyers are the most financially set (because unless they suck, philly fans fill those seats) and they try, but the flyers, post salary cap, most now try to live in a new world where they probably won't survive

and the eagles, while still producing winners would prefer to go 10-6 10 times in a row than win the super bowl once over that same span...
Permalink
Simms1156Div-I Stud
813 days ago
Score 1+-
The thing that bothers me most about Philly fans is how quickly they will turn on players. It is two weeks into the season and tons of fans are already calling for Feeley or Kolb. This is the same guy who led you guys to 3 straight nfc championships and then a superbowl. This bothers me because, although Donavan is not playing good, the recievers could help him by at least trying to get off of the bump. Or the line could help by somewhat stifling the opposing team's pass rush. I just dont understand how some fans could actually HATE a player who is possibly the best quarterback in Eagles history. (I prefer Randall Cunningham, but to each his own)
Permalink | Reply
JuTMSY4Legend
813 days ago
Score 1+-
i think its funny you prefer randall...(not saying its bad)

Randall and Buddy Ryan had a very interesting relationship because Buddy would never give him help...basically, it was randall's job to score and the defense would make sure the other team didn't...

See...defense doesn't always win championships... ; - )
Permalink
Simms1156Div-I Stud
813 days ago
Score 0+-
Why do you think its funny? Just curious.
Permalink | Reply
JuTMSY4Legend
813 days ago
Score 1+-
because McNabb has done everything Randall has and then some...

McNabb could run and throw, while Randall was never known for making big throws (he did/does have a gun...you'd never know by looking at him though)

McNabb also has quite a few rushing yards him self
Permalink
Simms1156Div-I Stud
813 days ago
Score 2+-
I just dont think that Randall ever got the credit he deserved, as you have already said his supporting cast was mediorce at best and he played in a time where the NFC East and the NFC as a whole was a lot better than it is now.
Permalink | Reply
JuTMSY4Legend
813 days ago
Score 2+-
the NFC east had the rising/super bowl champion cowboys, the giants towards the end of their run/championship teams and the redskins...same as the giants...

It was easily the best division in football, you're right

But that Eagle defense was a heck of a lot better than the current one...
Permalink
TehLokiVarsity Captain
813 days ago
Score 0+-
Fred Barnett and Calvin Williams > Reggie Brown and Kevin Curtis, Steve. Not to mention Keith Byars,Cris Carter, Albeit only 2 years. Cunningham had the weapons. He did his job, the coaching sucked (after Ryan) and the line was well below average.
Permalink
Simms1156Div-I Stud
813 days ago
Score 0+-
Fred Barnett and Calvin Williams are better than Reggie Brown and Kevin Curtis, I think you can cancel out the two years Cunningham hadwith Byars and Carter for the year and a half that Mcnabb had with T.O. Like you said the Eagles offensive line back them was not in the same league that the Eagles offensive line that Mcnabb had/has to work with. And though I am no Reid fan he usually knows how to call plays that get his recievers open so that makes Mcnabb a hell of a lot better.
Permalink | Reply
Add your Comment
ArmchairGM welcomes all comments. If you don't want to be anonymous, Register or Login. It's free


Retrieved from "http://armchairgm.wikia.com/Philly_Fan_Hypocrisy"

This page was last modified 01:35, 23 September 2007. Content is available under the GFDL.

Contribute

ArmchairGM's pages can be edited.
Is this page incomplete? Is there anything wrong?
Change it!

Edit this page Discuss this page Page history

Recent contributors to this page

The following people recently contributed to this article.

Embed this on your site

Main Page About Special Pages Help Terms of Use Advertise