Pat's get their verdict

I think the conditionality of the draft picks is because a late 1st round pick (if we make the playoffs) might be seen to be as valuable as an early 2nd and 3rd round pick (if we don't make the playoffs), so the value of the picks might be similar in the NFL's eyes.

So lets say in this week's game against the Chargers Tom Brady is sacked by Merriman, breaks his wrist and misses the season. As a result, the Pats go 3-13 and get the 1st overall pick. Are you still saying at that point that the Commish should have just chosen 1 penalty and stuck with it? Wouldn't losing a 2nd and 3rd rd pick in that situation be more "fair" to the Pats than losing the 1st overall pick?

Thats still crap it should be an across the board ruling.

i bet the person who minused me probably wants barry bonds out of baseball too... Why am i not surprised by New England Fans anymore...

They have 2... I assume they'll take the pats pick...

Rather the pick the pats would receive normally (and not the one they got via trade from the niners)

I got yah, but I really thought a suspension was more likely than the draft pick scenario. Regardless of what people think though, Goodell said there as going to be penalties for doing this when he became commissioner and the Patriots broke it in week 1. Not saying I agree with the ruling but the NFL isn't a democracy, it's a dictatorship.

Don't bite the hand that feeds... take that any way you like...but, of the super owners, Jones, Lurie, Snyder, Kraft et al ...it'll be interesting to see how they react and/or if they support big bob...

All the dictator/democracy talk is rubbish. That is stuff for government politics, not businesses and organizations. It's Goodell's job to do what is in the best interest of the league, and in this case it is in the NFL's best interest to insure the competitive balance. If you must make political comparisons, at least be right. A democracy is when the people choose their representation. The players have their representation, as do the owners, and both groups approved Goodell as commissioner.

Actually, a republic is when people have representatives. A democracy is when the people have complete control over a government and vote on laws. I'd say the NFL is an imperial republic with a very rigid class structure, a strong central government which still depends on the support of the masses to survive. The NFL is imperial Rome.

I realize this little thread is pretty much dead now, but according to PTI, most players are in favor of a rather harsh penalty. Not just the Jets, or last year's Packers, or the Eagles from the Super Bowl. So if most of the players want a harsh penalty, how is that a dictatorship?

I thought that was pretty good!

I beleive it's spelled PWN3D!!!!1111

Goodell should've made Belichick volunteer to coach the Oakland Raiders. Now that would've been a punishment for the ages.

Andrew Walter = The next Tom Brady?

Walter knocks up supermodels also?

His motto is "Hit it and quit it."

That's a year's salary without taxes. Would he win the Super Bowl and not get paid for it?

Give Brady a few years and he can rival Mr. Henry in family scrapbook quantity.

Who's salary, Drpatriot? Belichick makes over $4 mil a year.

Towards constructing a new correctional facility for the Cincinnati Bengals.

Probably smaller video cameras that are able to be put in hats.

Yeah, it's weird that the coach (1 person) gets a $500,000 fine, and the team (which is worth over $1.1 billion according to Forbes) is fined $250,000. Do you think Mr. Kraft even bothers writing a check that small? He probably has a stamp for it, or some prefabricated checks or something.

Let's keep it a secret that I made a mistake, all right, Rawbeezeitz?

What was the mistake?

lol. I said the team got the 500 grand, not Billicheck. (shhhh)

500 grand fine*

Well the team's paying for all of it either way.