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Myth Debunking: Phoenix Suns (April 2007)

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by user Manny Stiles

Welcome to Myth Debunking. I am your host Manny Stiles and today we will be looking the myths surrounding the Pacific Division champions in the NBA, the Phoenix Suns.

It's April, the playoffs begin in mere days and there is some concensus prognostications being tossed around, mostly by people who think they know what they're talking about simply because they see/hear people on TV and they believe those people know what they're talking about.

You name the Myth, I'll debunk it
You name the Myth, I'll debunk it

But what is myth? Myth is a traditional story used to explain a phenomenon. The Phoenix Suns, my friends are indeed a phenomenon. But does mere traditional story telling REALLY explain anything about these Phoenix Suns? I believe the myths are waaay offbase and I'll explain why:

Myth #1: You can't win with the Suns' style in the playoffs

Contrary to popular belief, NBA teams HAVE won championships by scoring a lot of points before. In fact, if you look at the record books, you’ll see that EVERY SINGLE NBA CHAMPION scored MORE points than their opponents in the Finals. It’s TRUE!

What people don’t understand is HOW the Suns score their points, or better yet WHY they score their points the way they do. Obviously the Suns play at a faster pace then the rest of the league, but it’s HOW they do it that makes them so spectacular. It starts with defense!

What? “Starts with Defense”? Manny what the hell are you talking about? The Suns don’t play Def--- ah, ah, ah… that’s another myth we will address in a bit!

The key to the Suns offense is to not let the ball slow down. The Suns lull you into running. They come at you and come at you. And even if you try to slow it down, before you know it you’re running right along. And then your legs are toast in the 4th quarter because the Suns are used to it and you’re not.

Another huge key in their offense is to not foul on defense. Fouling slows the pace down, it allows everyone to catch their breath and that works against what the Suns are doing. So what appears to be easy buckets really are part of the Suns philosophy. As soon as you score, the Suns ram it right back down your throat. I can’t count how many times this season that an opponent made a spectacular basket, seemingly gaining momentum only to have the Suns come RIGHT back (in an instant) inbounds the ball, pass, ‘’maybe’’ one dribble and they score. Worse yet, sometimes that one dribble is towards the basket forcing the defenders to collapse the lane only to have Steve Nash or Leandro Barbosa to kick the ball out to an open shooter for three. Just like that, the opponent goes from “Hell Yeah!” to “Aw crap…”. It’s a strong counterpunch for every jab.

In yesterday’s game against the Lakers, with the game winding down Kobe Bryant made a nice dribble drive, spinning and dunking the ball emphatically. The crowd was raucous; the team was pumped and seemed to get a bit of momentum from Kobe’s effort. Then the inbounds came, Nash passed it upcourt to Barbosa and less than 3 seconds on the game clock after Kobe’s whirling dervish (is there any other kind of dervish?), the Suns had an easy layup (basically the same amount of points as Kobe’s dunk) and the entire building was deflated. The Lakers players slumped their heads and the game was soon out of control and lost.

I don’t care who you are or how good you are, when you bust your ass to make a spectacular play only to have the Suns make an easy bucket ‘just like that’ (snaps fingers) it wears you out and defeats your will. The Suns best defense IS their offense.

AS for whether or not slowing the pace down works against the Suns… the Suns have lost a total of ONE game (the last game against the Spurs) this season when they failed to score 100 points. That means they lose MORE games when they score over 100. Chew on that.

The Suns are 8-3 in 2007 in games decided by 5 points or less. (13-8 overall if you include the slow start)

Let alone the fact that are the best three-point shooting team in the league (WITH the most attempts) and ‘’just’’ behind the Mavs in free throw shooting (over 80%). In fact, this year’s Suns team is trying to become the first team in a LONG time to shoot better than 50% from the field, 80% from the line and better than 40% from 3pt land.

Also, the Suns lead the league in assists per game. Despite their torrid game pace, they are 11th in turnovers. Either way, they lead the league in assist to turnover ratio as well.

And not to get all statty on you: Adjusted FG% - the difference between the third best team (Lakers at 51%) and the last team (Atlanta at 47%) is the same as the difference between the 3rd place team (Lakers at 51%) and the league leading Suns (at 55%). Last time I checked, shooting is an important part of the game.


Myth #2: The Suns can't play defense

This is the myth that cracks me up.

The Suns have won several games this year, specifically ON defensive stops. Yet people focus on the score, not the actual game play. The Suns have been first or second in win differential ALL SEASON. Remember how I told you the Suns lead the league in assists per game? They’re fourth in the league at allowing assists, giving them the widest margin in assists made and assists allowed. They are tied for third in PPS (points allowed per shot) with the Detroit Pistons (does anyone question THEIR defense?)

How about some defensive stats – Shawn Marion is FIFTH in the league in steals per game, Tenth in rebounds per game and 20th in blocks per game. Gee, those are all defensive statistics! Shawn Marion deserves consideration for Defensive Player of the Year. He’s a Small Forward playing undersized Power Forward and thriving on both ends..

Amare Stoudemire is 12th in rebounding and 23rd in Blocks

The Suns lead ALL teams in charges taken by a wide margin (taking charges is playing defense, right?) Steve Nash and Raja Bell are BOTH in the top 3 in charges taken.

Kurt Thomas an Raja Bell are two of the most tenacious defenders and general irritants. James Jones is also a much better defender than you know. He can man up and has a knack for making key blocks along with hios 3pt shooting.

And did you know that MOST fast breaks start on defense? Hard to be a fast break kind of team if you don’t play defense.

At least SOME people are starting to recognize…

Myth #3: Steve Nash isn't the MVP this year

Steve Nash’s 2-time reigning MVP numbers have increased across the board to career highs in PPG (18.9), assists (11.5), and he is blowing out his career highs in FG% - .534 (+.022 over last season), 3pt shooting - .468 (+.029 over last season) . Only his rebounding (-0.7 form last year) and FT % - .893 (-.028 from last season) has dipped a tiny bit. Ridiculous numbers on top of MVP numbers all while leading his team to a third consecutive division title.

He blatantly outshined and outplayed Dirk (who is wearing down) in each of their latest two matchups, just beat Kobe again (whose numbers are DOWN from his non-MVP season last year) and you can see that barring complete voter shenanigans, we will be calling Nash “Three Time”.

Myth #4: The Spurs AND the Mavs are better

Unlike even the most steadfast Suns fans, I truly believe that the Mavs and Spurs suck in comparison to the Phoenix Suns. I am true fan, but I am also a believer in Coach Mike D’Antoni. I believe in the foundation, the materials and the architect. The Eyes ARE on the Prize. D’Antoni came in focused, Nash came in focused and they team is primed to walk right through the playoffs. They have the pieces in place, they have depth and for the first time, they have health on their side.

Everyone and their sister is maintaining that the Mavericks or Spurs are the top contenders for the championship this year. Everyone and their sister is saying that the Suns don’t want to face both the Mavs and the Spurs in the playoffs. Even people here in the valley are concerned with potential matchups and hoping that the Suns get help from other teams to avoid two series in Texas.

No, No, No. The Suns WANT to beat BOTH of them. Badly.

If you’re going to be NBA Champions, beat everyone and anyone who thinks they’re good. The Spurs knocked the Suns out two years ago, the Mavs knocked the Suns out last year. Time to return the favor and knock them both out. The Suns AREN’T afraid of the Mavs one iota. The Mavericks can NOT stop Amare. The Mavs know it, the Suns know it, Amare knows it.

Tim Duncan used to crush the spirits of some of the Suns players. I swear, a couple years ago after their time on Team USA, I saw Duncan reach inside Marion’s chest and rip his heart out. This year, it’s not the same. All eyes are on the prize.

I feel confident that the Suns not only will have to beat them both, but will do it convincingly and then win a dull, quick NBA Finals over WHO EVER wins the EAST by default before it even starts.

And the BEST part is it looks like the Suns will get to stomp all over the Lakers in the first round! This is going to be an enjoyable playoff run.

Myth #5: We know everything there is to know about the Suns players

Listen! Shhhh…do you hear that? THAT is the sound of all of the idiots making noise about Amare's knees. Where are you at? I told you BACK IN November that Amare’s knee wasn’t the problem, his head and conditioning were.

Trivia time: Name the only Phoenix Sun to play every game this season.

Trivia Answer: Amare Stoudemire

You know what else you don’t know about the Suns? Anything about the men inside the jerseys. You know their names, their numbers, their games; but you can’t see their hearts, their wills or their determination. Led by “Ole’ Blood and Nuts” Raja Bell this team is tougher than ever. They are going to concede NOTHING in a playoff series.

Here’s something else you don’t know about the Suns: This team is tight. They hang out together, they don’t let ego issues disrupt what they are doing. A few years back Amare and Shawn didn’t get along great. Joe Johnson left because he knew he wasn’t going to be a top banana on this squad. Even Nash and Amare butted heads on occasion. That’s all changed. They play together, they go to war together… they even got all superstitious together… they got each other’s backs.

There are more glue guys and savvy veterans keeping things in check and maintaining proper focus.

THREE Suns players are in the top 12 in the league in double-doubles – Nash, Stoudemire and Marion. No other team has even two players the top 15.

Myth #6: These are the same Suns that lost two straight Conference Finals

After two straight western finals losses (thanks to Joe Johnson and Raja Bell injuries), people seem to think they know who these Suns are. You don’t. The ONLY players that were on the 2004-05 Western Conference Finals team are Steve Nash, Shawn Marion, Amare Stoudemire and Leandro Barbosa.

Gone are former vital cogs/contributors Joe Johnson, Jake Voskuhl, Quentin Richardson, Tim Thomas, Jim Jackson, Casey Jacobsen, Steven Hunter, Brian Grant and Eddie House.


Myth #7: Their window is closing

Steve Nash is wearing down. He’s getting old, he plays too hard and takes too much of a beating to last much longer. These are things Mark Cuban said over 3 years ago.

The Suns have Barbosa, Diaw and Stoudemire firmly locked up in long-term deals. They are all fairly young players yet to see their “prime years”. Nash has 3 more years on his contract, Bell has three and Marion has two more. Oh yeah; thanks to Atlanta, the Suns have THREE first round picks (as long as Atlanta doesn’t ping-pong it’s way to a top three pick) and two first rounders next year.

It will hurt losing assistant coach Marc Iavaroni, who will get a head job somewhere (Memphis?).

But the window of opportunity isn’t closing anytime soon. Not as long as STAT is around.

Summary

I said WAY back in October that the ONLY thing that would stop the Suns from winning it all was health. Have the Suns been healthy this year or what? Look at any championship team in any sport ever. They are almost always perfectly healthy teams. Health is the most valuable commodity in pro sports. Health was more important to the Suns this year than dealing with everyone saying you “can’t outscore teams in the playoffs”.

I remember back to the late 80’s. There was a guy in the league who could outscore everyone but people would tell him over and over that you can’t win with offense. People said he would NEVER win a title. Yeah, his team scored 110 ppg when he won his first title. Exactly what the Suns are scoring THIS year.

What was the guy’s name? Michael Jordan… yeah he went on and won a couple more titles, too…

I can’t help but feeling that the Suns are a bit like the Indianapolis Colts and multiple MVP Peyton Manning who “could never win the big game” with the style they play. It’s always clear to everyone in hindsight WHY a team can win it all. And that’s when all of the people who say “they can never win it all” seem to disappear as though never had existed.

There’s a lot of people who will be silenced this June when the Suns do win it all. I won’t be one of them.

Go Suns!


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False ProphetAll-Star
946 days ago
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The suns can only be beat by the Mavs, Spurs, and Nuggets, but they can be beat, and are worse than the Mavs and spurs man rays
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False ProphetAll-Star
946 days ago
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and they will lose in the playoffs
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
946 days ago
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OK, I never said they were going to win 4-0, 4-0, 4-0, 4-0... so I suppose you could be right. They will lose at least one game in the playoffs.
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Davis21wylieMVP
946 days ago
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Dude, no mention of points allowed per possession or Pace Factor when talking about the Suns' above-average/surpringly effective D?
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Davis21wylieMVP
946 days ago
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Sorry, "surprisingly effective". They're effective, and they surprise people with it.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
946 days ago
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I did use Points per Shot... a little credit please?
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Davis21wylieMVP
946 days ago
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Fair enough... Where'd you get the charges taken data, by the way?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
946 days ago
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part from 82games.com and the local broadcast on Saturday stated the Bell Nash at 1 and 3 in charges taken. Needless to say, I have seen enough games to assume they lead the league without looking it up. But I looked it up anyway. They have 20 more than the Bulls. Raja Bell is a charge taking god! He doesn't flop, he launches onto his back. it's a wonder he hasn't been hurt.
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Davis21wylieMVP
946 days ago
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Ah, here we are... I really wish the NBA would officially track the stat, along with blocks, steals, and such. That, on top of the 50,000 other things I wish they'd track...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
946 days ago
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WHERE can I find 4th quarter shooting %??? They have assist per quarter and Nash leads qtrs 1-3, but is behind in the 4th - they assume it's because he rests more in the 4th quarter and they're wrong. It's because he takes over and shoots more.

I KNOW Shave Nest leads the league in 4th qtr FG%. He has been absotlutely deadly in the 4th quarter this season.

I'd REALLY like FG% for the last minute of the game as well.
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Davis21wylieMVP
946 days ago
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You probably already knew this, but 81games has clutch stats (4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left, neither team ahead by more than 5 points) on every player, too. It's a bitch to go through and look at every player's page, though. I wish Roland would put his numbers in handy tables/downloadable formats.
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Davis21wylieMVP
946 days ago
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Damn it, "82games". My keyboard is un-clutch today.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
946 days ago
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Yeah, that made me giggle aloud. Hey, it's better to be un-clutch than to be non un-choke! (nice usage, Dice21Dub!) OR...To save time, I'll flip through the game logs for every player and figure it out myself...damn.
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KevinsecaurWaterboy
946 days ago
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You make it seem like MJ's Bulls won NBA titles simply by outscoring opponents while ignoring the fact that Jordan and Pippen were two of the best defenders of their generation, if not all-time. Not saying the Suns won't or can't win a championship, I just don't think the comparison of Phoenix to those early-90s Bulls teams is valid.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
946 days ago
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it is valid when you consider HOW MANY times people said MJ would NEVER win a title... until he did. I remember how people treated MJ, (badly) you know the guy who led his team to two straight conference finals losses because he wasn't a winner and his style of play couldn't win games? Before breaking through the third time? Sound familiar? By the way, the last team to average 110+ ppg was MJ's Bulls. I say that because you CAN win a championship AND score a lot of points. BTW, Jordan's Bulls gave up over 100 ppg too.
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KelsdadAll-Star
946 days ago
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The missing intangible from last season's failure was a healthy Amare' Stoudemire. I'm concerned D'Antoni's insistence on a 7 or 8 man rotation will again come back to haunt them, but the truth is there is no post player in the league that can hang with Amare'. He's too strong for some and too quick for others. The Mavs are deeper, the Spurs quicker, so there's concern there, but I do have plans in June for a parade in Phoenix.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
946 days ago
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yup yup! People forget how much a difference Raja Bell's freak calf injury meant against the Mavs. Otherwise we might be talking about repeating as champs! I'm unemployed, so you KNOW I'll be there!
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WildcatmattWaterboy
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Regarding that '91 Bulls team, as Lou Reed sang "you know, those were different times"

If we want to consider the '89 Bad Boy Pistons title as the start of the modern defensive NBA era, there were still residual effects of the run-and-gun 80's apparent in '91 (just as there are still residual effects of the defensive era alive today despite the swing back to wide-open basketball).

It's true the '91 Bulls gave up 101 points per game, but keep in mind... that still made them the 4th best points defense in the NBA (only two teams that year gave up less than 100 ppg).

The only other team to give up more than 100 points per game and still win the NBA title since '89 are the '95 Rockets, who gave up 101.4 ppg to rank a very pedestrian 14th in the NBA.

Compare that to this year's Suns, a team who gave up 103.1 ppg, and rank 24th in the NBA in that category.

Though I understand your sentiment that the Suns, similar to this year's Colts, might be able to throw those numbers out the window. I don't think you have much of an argument that the stats are on your side.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
945 days ago
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consider pace factor. It doesn't matter how many points you give up as long as ytou score more, can we agree?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
945 days ago
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Lou Reed also sang (with Velvet Underground) "Here Comes the Sun"... Maybe you should listen to "Begining to See the light"?
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WildcatmattWaterboy
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I agree you win if you score more than you give up. I think you just summed up the concept of sporting events. Thanks.

But these stats tend to hold up for a reason. I'm not arguing that the Suns have a chance. I'm just arguing that history is against them in statistics, and your point about the '91 Bulls is moot.

I'll continue to consult Velvet Underground's Loaded album for song titles here.

"Oh Sweet Nothin'" "Cool It Down"

By the way you're thinking of "Who Loves the Sun." The Beatles sang "Here Comes the Sun"
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
945 days ago
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you got me...duh! I like White heat/white light best, even though the Warhol cover album might be the best overall... Poor Nico.
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WildcatmattWaterboy
945 days ago
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I'm a White Light/White Heat fan too. Basically the first punk album. But I think Loaded was the most solid. Not a bad song on there.
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WildcatmattWaterboy
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If you consider that stat with the Suns, finishing 24th out of 30 teams, that puts them in the bottom 20th percentile in the league in points allowed. I went back 30 years and couldn't find a team even close to that low who won a title. The closest example was the '82 Lakers who finished 15th in total points allowed out of 23 teams.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
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point differential, buddy... look at point differential. (the difference between US and THEM)

Ever wonder why the Suns give up so many points? The Suns LEAD the league in possessions per 48, meaning their opponents ALSO lead the league in possessions per 48 (it's the magic of math!)

When you have more chances to score, so does the other team... PPG allowed is irrelevant when comparing the Suns to other teams. It's oversimplification that leads to paralysis by analysis.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
945 days ago
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and again... 3rd in the league (tied with Detroit) in points per shot... Meaning if you have ONE shot to take, you have as much chance of scoring against the Suns as the Pistons... also keep in mind the point I made in that the Suns would rather let a basket go in than foul and slow the pace... do the Pistons feel the same way??? So overall, you could make a simple assumption - throw out the Suns and the Pistons "easy buckets" allowed. When the game is on the line (no easy buckets time) and the Suns try to play D, they would be much MORE efficient defensively than the Pistons...
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WildcatmattWaterboy
945 days ago
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Ok, let's look at point differential.

San Antonio +9.1 Dallas +7.6

Phoenix +7.2
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
945 days ago
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Gee, they're not 24th anymore, are they?
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WildcatmattWaterboy
945 days ago
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Come on man. You're telling me if it was Game 7 of the NBA Finals and the game was on the line in the final seconds, you'd be just as confident with Steve Nash guarding Chauncey Billups as you would be with Chauncey Billups guarding Steve Nash?
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WildcatmattWaterboy
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Gee, they're not 24th anymore, are they?

They ain't first either. You're the one who's arguing for point differential not me. I made the point that no team in the last 30 years of NBA history has won the title with a points per game average as bad as the Suns this year.

Now go prove to me how many teams win the title based on finishing 3rd in the NBA in point differential.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
945 days ago
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I'm not saying Nash is a great defender, even though he takes a ton of charges and plays extremely smart... but if it's Suns - Pistons there won't be a game 7.

A lot of guys torch Nash and lose. Often. Yesterday for instance... With the game on the line, I'll stick with the MVP. On the FT line, taking a charge, from 3pt, with an incredible pass... yes, I would take Nash over Billups every day.

I'll take Marion over Prince, I'll take Amare over Wallace or Webber and even Barbosa over Hamilton. Plus I'll take the Suns bench over Detroit's...

NO team in the East frightens me (or any team in the West)
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
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Q. Teams that finished 3rd or worse in point differential and won titles? A. A hell of alot more than zero!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
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2005-06 Heat +3.9

2004-05 Spurs +7.8 2003-04 Pistons +5.8 2002-03 Lakers +2.4 2001-02 Lakers +7.2

2000-01 Lakers +3.4
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KelsdadAll-Star
945 days ago
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Sports aren't played on a computer.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
945 days ago
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Ah, my dear Kelsdad... yes, they are indeed. Every sporting event you've ever watched or heard about was played on a computer. Did you know that Mickey Mantle was a computer? Babe Ruth? Computer. Cy Young? Computer. Jim Thorpe was a computer, for sure. Even the very first Olympics in Greece was played on a computer... time to face the facts and catch up and integrate to the matrix, friend. (or you could always take the blue pill...)

Now the one exception; Tim Kempton is real, but everything else is computer.

And payrolls are paid with computers, so there you have it.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
945 days ago
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I think Wilt Chamberlain was half-man/half-robot. You know, like Lance Henriksen in Aliens.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
945 days ago
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they don’t let ego issues disrupt what they are doing. Seriously? Did you miss STEVE HIMSELF calling out Amare and Shawn after one of the recent games about players squawking about their touches and messing with the chemistry? Oh, I guess you just happened to miss that little detail.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
945 days ago
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old news. They settled it, when Amare whined his way back into the startinf lineup. He had something to prove (that his knee is fine) then Amare had another kid and reality set in on him. He has a legacy to build. He stepped the ego to the side and has been the ultimate teammate since. He runs in practice with the "fitness club" and cheers like mad for the bench/role players. Know what I'll remember about Amare this year? Sitting on the bench in Minnesota on a 4pt display. He didn't care that he had a God-awful night, he was wearing Divison champs shirts and hats and going nutty when Pat Burke went on a reb-dunk...
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Anonymous Fanatic #3
944 days ago
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the whole "myth debunking" isn't so valid when written by an obviously very biased fan. hopefully the suns are as overly confident as yourself...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
944 days ago
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Go Suns! What a bunch of crap... I'm not biased; Go Suns! Just because I want the Suns to win, that isn't the reason why I know they're going to... Go Suns!
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Anonymous Fanatic #4
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There are 5 teams in the playoffs that can beat the Suns.
  1. Dallas. Dallas is deeper, and can play at a fast pace like the suns do. They have scoring threats, and Dirk is a good player to dish the ball to for last second shots.
  1. San Antonio. This is just as good of a Spurs team as the have been in the past few years. I wrote them off to start the season, but I think that they have the ingredients to win another title(not that they will)
  1. Denver. What's denver doing on this list you ask? Simple. Iverson+'Melo=tons of scoring=ability to play at the suns pace. Will they beat the Suns? Probably not, PHX is a better team than Denver, but could be difficult to overcome.
  1. Miami. Simple, D-Wade's back. That means a lot more trips to the line for Him, and a lot more points that could've won some of their more embarassing losses during his absense. Shaq is playing great, and I think they'll be able to defend their title.
  1. . Detroit. The Pistons are just that good at defense. They will make the Suns play at a slower pace (A lot slower), and I don't know what that will do to the suns.
Can the Suns make it to the NBA Finals? Hell yes. Will they? ehh....
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False ProphetAll-Star
944 days ago
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^that was me
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
944 days ago
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and a meteor could strike the Suns team bus too... face it FP, you've been grasping at straws ever since the Pats were knocked out of the playoffs in January
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Anonymous Fanatic #5
936 days ago
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all these comments are almost as entertaining as the games themselves..keep it up until after the playoffs - then second guess the results with..."I told you so's..???
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