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Mets, Pedro, the Toe, and Clemens: The Big "What If"?

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Roger Clemens suggested, in an interview with USA Today that he'll retire at the end of the World Baseball Classic.

David Pinto believes that, being a competitor, "at some point [Clemens] finds a team." And as Clemens said:

"But the only thing is if I'm sitting in the stands in Boston, or New York, 
or somewhere in May, and get the itch again, who knows what will happen?"

That "New York" is probably a reference to the Yankees. But what about the Mets?

Picture it: May 25th, 2006. The Mets, seven weeks into the season, have a three game lead in their division. But the toe injury that kept Pedro Martinez out of the WBC flares up, knocking Pedro onto the DL for a month, if not more. One of the Mets biggest weaknesses is starting pitching depth. Absent an acquisition, they have to rely on guys like John Maine or rookie Brian Bannister.

Would the Mets make a run at Clemens? If so, should they? As a Mike Piazza fan, it's hard for me to stomach the idea of Clemens pitching his home games at Shea Stadium. And Clemens is a Red Sox guy, or a Yankee, or ... well, not a "Met."

But the rest of the picture says go for it.

The Non-Clemens Routes

Trading Lastings Milledge for Barry Zito is idiotic, especially mid-year. Zito is a free agent after this season and Milledge is too good a prospect to use on a rent an arm.

Blowing five to six starts on a guy like Maine or Bannister is also silly. These guys need the full year at AAA. Maine turns 25 in May, and cannot afford a shuttle-year -- this is his last best chance to further his development in AAA. Bannister is a few months older and similarly needs some developmental time. Both would be decent late-August/September call-up, but neither is an effective stop-gap for a contender.

Going after a less-than-stellar pitcher -- say, a Josh Towers -- is something the Mets simply are unable to effectively do. The Mets off-season cost them a lot of trade chips, leaving the cupboard virtually bare of decent items. (This assumes that Omar Minaya would not trade Milledge or Mike Pelfrey for a guy like Towers.) Jeff Keppinger? Probably not enough. Philip Humber? Too much.

Finally, there's the nightmare scenario: Jose Lima or Darren Oliver. Makes me nauseous even thinking about it.

The Clemens Advantages

First, he's perhaps the greatest pitcher ever.

Second, he'll be well rested.

Third, he's cheap.

Guys like him just aren't availabe in May, at least not for $6-10 million. If you wanted to grab Johan Santana or heck, Chris Carpenter, the cost would be Milledge, Pelfrey, and the money to pay these guys. Even a guy like Kip Wells gets paid over $3 million this year.

And remember, we are replacing Pedro here. We need to add an ace, not a schlub.

But even if Pedro doesn't go down, the Mets should be making a play at the Rocket. A Pedro/Clemens-anchored rotation is a fierce weapon in the playoffs -- as good as, if not better than, Pedro/Curt Schilling in 2004 or Schilling/Randy Johnson in 2001. With the Mets offense and bullpen, this would be a season to remember. And all those bad memories of Clemens? Forgotten.


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Patrickburke1980All-American
1360 days ago
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I would love it if Clemens came to the mets for a year...but I doubt he'd ever consider it. He will retire.
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Patrickburke1980All-American
1360 days ago
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I totally agree...the Mets would be crazy to trade Milledge for a rental of Zito. They can just sign him in the off-season. I bet NYM is his first choice. They can pay and he'll be back with the greatly overrated Rick Peterson.
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Awrigh01All-Star
1360 days ago
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I don't think Peterson is overrated. I think he's a damn good pitching coach. I think the New York Media attacks Rick way to much. I would love for Clemens to be a Met. I have only gained more and more respect for the man as he continues pluggin along.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
1360 days ago
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What pitcher has rick peterson truly helped? A couple good months for Jae Seo? a good half a season in the bullpen for Heilman? Glavine has been shit, they had to trade benson. the bullpen has been terrible since he's been there. I actually think the opposite...he's amazingly overrated.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
1360 days ago
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It's been reported a number of times Clemens is down to The Yanks, Sox, or Astros. The Mets are not even in the picture. I don't think he will retire. He worked out with the Astros minor league team leading up to the WBC. I predict he goes back to the Astros in the beginning of May.
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Awrigh01All-Star
1360 days ago
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I think Clemens will come back with the Astros.
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Anonymous Fanatic #3
1360 days ago
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Just a note: Pelfrey can't be traded, at least not until next January. A player can't be traded for at least one year from the time he signs his first professional contract.
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Juggernaut agmLittle Leaguer
1358 days ago
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Clemens demanded $18 million to pitch for his hometown Astros last year. Does that make you think he'd pitch for the Mets for $6-10 million? I'll bet he wouldn't do it for $30 million. Are you the same guy who suggested that the Marlins were going to trade Cabrera to the Mets,or are ALL you Mets fans delusional?
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Anonymous Fanatic #4
1282 days ago
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I think the Mets would have a better chance of landing Clemens if Pedro stays healthy, not if he gets injured. Clemens wants to pitch for a contender, not a hobbled team. The Yankees' injuries lately weaken their position as far as getting Roger.

The Sox are the top contender, in my eyes, because Clemens would be surrounded by Schilling and Beckett, who both idolize him, along with stars like Ortiz and Ramirez. And it would make for the most dramatic story line.

A return to Boston, and a drive to take them to the Series, giving symmetry to his career, and giving him a chance to "avenge" 1986 is an irresistible story line for the media. Clemens wants to go out in a blaze of glory and attention, which will both solidify his legend and maintain his ability to earn (in endorsements, broadcasting, what have you) after he retires.

Boston is the most likely place for him to accomplish all of that right now. But I agree that a move to the Mets would add surprise and intrigue. They have to hang tight as contenders for another few weeks (and pony up a lot of cash) to stay a longshot in the Clemens sweepstakes.
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