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Memo to Bud Selig: Suspend Ryan Dempster

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by DNL

[I imagine riding on the New York City subway] next to some kid with purple hair next to some queer with AIDS right next to some dude who just got out of jail for the fourth time right next to some 20-year-old mom with four kids. It's depressing. [. . .] As if that wasn't bad enough, Rocker added that, "The biggest thing I don't like about New York are the foreigners. I'm not a very big fan of foreigners. You can walk an entire block in Times Square and not hear anybody speaking English. Asians and Koreans and Vietnamese and Indians and Russians and Spanish people and everything up there. How the hell did they get in this country? --- John Rocker, in Sports Illustraded

For that, Bud Selig suspended John Rocker for the first month of the 2000 baseball season. While the suspension was controversial -- indeed, the Players Association successfully sliced it in half -- in retrospect, most would agree that some suspension was probably just.

On Friday, Deadspin reported that Ryan Dempster sexually harrassed a female fan.



That picture comes from the linked-to article. Also from that article comes this story:

Christine (the lady in the picture) asked Dempster for the ball he was long tossing with. After she first asked, his response was something along the lines of "what am I going to long toss with if I give you this ball?" After Christine pleaded for the ball again (in that semi-annoying way only girls can pull off), Dempster responded back "I'll give you the ball if you take your top off." [. . .] Christine, now relishing her role as "that girl" in the stands, goes and gets Dempster to sign the ball he gave her. He throws it back up, and this is when the magical picture was taken.

For those with can't make out the inscription on the ball, it says:

"To Christine
Take Your Damn Top Off
/s/ Ryan Dempster"

This behavior is patently unacceptable, and Bud Selig must take action. A five game suspension -- minimum -- is in order.

"But wait!," you say, "there's nothing wrong here. No different than A-Rod cheating on his wife, or Paul Lo Duca and David Wright getting plastered at a bar and 'hanging out' with 20-something women."

And to that, I say, simply this: you're wrong. This isn't a personal marital matter, or an off-field infraction. This isn't some overpaid, undereducated egotist going down to Mardi Gras and throwing beads everywhere yelling "show me your t*ts." It's not just debauchery. This was on the field, in uniform, and twice harrased a paying customer. This was an act which, had it occured in any other industry, would have ended up with the harasser -- asking a customer to take off her top! -- on the wrong end of a pink slip.

If Rocker is due a month-long suspension for month for his words, certainly Dempster should take a one week unpaid vacation. Selig needs to send the right message: Don't harrass the customers.


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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
784 days ago
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I agree, to say something like that on the field and in uniform is an embarrassment to the game. Then to do something else by signing the ball in that way is a further detriment.
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JuTMSY4Legend
784 days ago
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Please...when I work in insurance, i ask the old ladies to take of their tops all the time ; - )...hahaha
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
784 days ago
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wow...
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
784 days ago
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Incredably stupid and extremly annoying to even have to hear something along these lines.
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RomiezzoLegend
784 days ago
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Girls, would you feel honored if a baseball player thought you were hot and asked you to take your top off? ;)
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
784 days ago
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As a legal matter, it doesn't seem to me that what Dempster did was per se harrassment. The question that we really need to ask is whether this was an unwelcome sexual advance, or one that was solicited and appreciated. There is no doubt that if Dempster were Isiah Thomas and this conduct happened in Anucha Brown Sanders office, it would be inappropriate, but the woman in this scenario was not employed by the league or the Cubs and in no way is Dempster her superior. Thus, besides being a tasteless sexual advance, I can't figure out what the basis would eb to claim harrassment.
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DNLLegend
784 days ago
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I agree -- but I never said he's violating Illinois or Federal law. It's certainly harassment, though, even if it doesn't fit the meaning of the legal term of the same name.
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ASwaffAll-American
784 days ago
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I think this is the kind of thing that doesn't even matter when it comes to legality. John Rocker didn't do anything illegal to get suspended. Sometimes, you have to suspend a guy when his actions humiliate his team, his colleagues, and the league. I don't think anyone has delusions anymore of athletes being (in general) wholesome family men. But, when you do something that public, in uniform, AND provide permanent physical evidence in the form of a baseball (which is team equipment, opening the Cubs up to a lawsuit IF the woman decided to press charges), you HAVE to suspend him.
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PeanMajor Leaguer
784 days ago
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suspend him for what? being awesome?
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RomiezzoLegend
784 days ago
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...says the guy who got married 4-5 years ago. Pean, be careful. You never know what your wife might do. ;)
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RomiezzoLegend
784 days ago
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months*
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PeanMajor Leaguer
784 days ago
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its an Old School reference...i dont condone this behavior!
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
784 days ago
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What would Goodell do?
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Falcon02520Legend
784 days ago
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Dempster would be done for the year...
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
784 days ago
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Does that Young Lady look like she's unhappy with the ball she got from Ryan Dempster?

Dempster might have been a wee out of line with his original request, but then he gave her a ball (which she accepted) and then later she sought out Dempster again to get the ball signed.

And then she posed with a smile for a picture with the ball.
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DNLLegend
784 days ago
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Why does it matter if *she* is happy?
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ASwaffAll-American
784 days ago
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I'd be smiling, too. I'd be smiling, while this thought ran through my head - "Wow, what an effing morong. Deadspin will have a field day with this photo."
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
784 days ago
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i think that's great. MLB should award dempster a cash bonus.
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Cornfed78Draft Pick
784 days ago
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I think it just adds to Dempster's resume proving that he is a horrible closer.
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Cornfed78Draft Pick
784 days ago
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And as for David Wright getting plastered at a bar and hanging out with 20-something women....sounds about right for a 24 year old.
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Oh No RomoDraft Pick
784 days ago
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Dumpster should be suspended anyway for being a sucky closer. Now we can double it
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EditoratlegendofcecilioguanteJV Squad
784 days ago
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what about shelly duncan? should he get suspended, too? http://www.c...com/?p=11059
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ASwaffAll-American
784 days ago
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Call me a two-faced hypocrite if you want, but I think there's a world of difference between what Duncan did and what Dempster did. I actually think that Duncan's thing is kind of funny. It's a little like Ken Griffey giving that obnoxious fan an autographed jock strap. Or like a story I heard Mike Wilbon tell once where he, attending a Cubs game when he was a kid, got his face rubbed in the catcher's mitt of an opposing player because he was harassing him. Some of this stuff is just in good fun. Sounds like these two Red Sox fans are just out to scream about the dirty Yankees in this case. They need to get over it. That was not that bad.
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Ea34Div-I Stud
784 days ago
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What a fool! It doesn't sound like he did anyhting illegal, and it doesn't seem like the young woman in the picture was offended or asked him to stop- so, really, it sounds like "no harm, no foul". That said, Bud Selig would be smart to hit him with a nominal (5-7 games?) suspension for conduct detrimental to the image of the game.
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KelsdadAll-Star
784 days ago
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You guys obviously haven't sat in seats close to the bullpen area. This is calm compared to what gets said, and 99.9% of the time the fans are the instigators. The chick was obviously being a pain in the ass, Dempster, in an unusual manner, got her to shut up. And I guarantee you that's not the worst thing he's ever written on a ball, either.
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
784 days ago
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The irony will hit the fan when "Christine" gets a feature in Maxim out of this.
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Anonymous Fanatic #3
769 days ago
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Check out this YOUTUBE video with Ryan Dempster http://youtu...=1s-mEfhVELM
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Anonymous Fanatic #4
502 days ago
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OMG I'd take my shirt off for Ryan - but then again, I'm a dude!
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Anonymous Fanatic #5
444 days ago
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you guys are ridiculous! nobody can have any fun anymore? The Lady wasnt upset and if you read the whole article it was all done in a playful manner. Everyone needs to relax and get something real to worry about
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Anonymous Fanatic #6
257 days ago
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you're an ascerbic moron.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
257 days ago
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You spelled acerbic wrong, moron.
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