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Confession of the Falcon

Posted by Falcon02520
637 days ago


First off, I want to explain what my fan-dom is facked up. I was brought up by a front-runner. My step-dad, who I've known since I was five, was the only real link I had to professional sports. I did not show any interest in any sports other than baseball and hockey until I was around 14 years old. So while growing up, the sports franchises I was raised on included those of interest to my step-father.

Let me put into perspective what type of "fan" is my step-dad. To note, he was born and raised just outside Philadelphia, and has lived nearby his entire life. From the time I met him until about 2003 he was a fan of the Atlanta Braves (14 consecutive division titles). He is now a fan of the Phillies (who he never liked before, but now claims to be a fan), who are good now... go figure. He is also a Dallas Cowboys fan. He claimed to be an Eagles fan the year they went to the Super Bowl. Last season he was a Giants fan (even though he "is still a Cowboys fan and always will be"). He was also a fan, years ago of the Detroit Red Wings but now (since Sidney) is a Pittsburgh Penguins fan. But then again, he "will always be a Flyers fan." See what I have to deal with day to day?

Now because I did not really get into football until about the time I was in high-school, I was not really pushed to be a fan of "his" team (thank god). That is why my loyalty is strongly where it should be; with the Philadelphia Eagles. They are one of the only two teams (outside of Team USA) that I truly care about no-matter-what. The other being the Flyers (my step-dad sometimes is/was once/always kinda will be a Flyers fan, so I was (in a way) properly raised there). I don't really have a basketball team that I like more than another. I root for different teams, and would probably choose the 76ers (home-town team) over any other team, but I am not a fan of any basketball team.

But when it comes to baseball, I my fan-dom is facked up. I admit it, and I can not change the way I feel (would if I could). I was raised as an Atlanta Braves fan until I was 11 years old. So to that point, I was taught to hate the Mets, Expos, Marlins, and Mets. I didn't know much about any of the other teams than the Phillies (because I grew up, and still live right across the Delaware River from Philly). So I hate them with a passion (cannot change years of really hatred for no reason other than "I just hate them"). When I started learning more (through friends and coaches) I realized that "there are 29 other baseball teams."

After a trip to the great city of Boston in 2001, I decided then and there, I was going to ditch my step-dad's views on sports, and create my own. Hence, I became a Red Sox fan (quickly thinking I made a mistake after learning about "the curse," but I stuck with them regardless). But, over the past few months, I have realized that my heart just isn't in it as much as it was when the Sox were losers and the under-dogs. I have thought about this for a while and this is what I've determined:

"I, Andrew Neely, am not in-fact a true Red Sox fan. Nor, am I a fan of any other major league baseball team. Baseball is my favorite sport; personally, I believe nothing else even comes close. But, I am not a fan of a team, I am a fan of the league. So I am here admitting that for the past few years I have been lying to myself, and now am admitting that I must be a fraud. Take your shots as you see fit, I deserve the worst and will take it straight up."

I also want to point out that this frees me up from a commitment to any team. That is what I am calling my faith now, a commitment. I can be committed to a team, but I will have to re-earn my right to call myself a fan of any team (other than the Eagles and Flyers, whom I still adore). So my 2008 season "commitment" is up for grabs. Right now one team is looking good, but I am not sure yet.

So, take your shots, I deserve it. Remember though that I am man enough to admit to all this.

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Falcon02520Legend
637 days ago
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btw, it wasn't supposed to be that long, but the information was necessary to be included as part of the "therapy" ...
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SSreportersLegend
637 days ago
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Therapy?
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Falcon02520Legend
637 days ago
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well, therapy because my biological father thought I was crazy because I didn't like him (for obvious reasons that I will not get into), so he got the court system to force me to going to therapy... problem was that he always chose the counselor who would never agree with me, so we talking about stuff like this instead because I laughed at everything else
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SSreportersLegend
637 days ago
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problem was that he always chose the counselor who would never agree with me M-16's help that cause.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
637 days ago
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Now it gets interesting! Sounds like someone has some motivation to ebay themselves!! I think you should like whoever your Dad hates!!!
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Falcon02520Legend
637 days ago
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well, whenever the counselor figured out that I really did hate him (for good reasoning as they said), he would say the counselor was a liar and make the courts switch counselors and try and try and make him look like a hero...

"how can a kid not like his father? the same guy who ditched the kid's mother with three kids under five years old and not support them at all. how could a kid not like his father after doing that?"

the counselors would always eventually see that I really didn't like him... then we'd switch counselors... we never saw the same person more than twice ;)
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Falcon02520Legend
637 days ago
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well my step-dad's favorite team is the Cowboys and I hate them already... the other one isn't a sports fan (I don't talk to him anymore)... he looks like Harry Potter and acts even more like him
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JuTMSY4Legend
637 days ago
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sounds complicated...speaking as someone who has a fairly messy family I can relate. Its always sticky...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
637 days ago
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Well, I talked to my Dad maybe 4-5 times in the last 7 years - don't hate him but just have nothing in common. Also two of my brothers basically disowned me when I did a TV interview stating that our oldest brother died of AIDS - the whole reason I put myself up for auction. Haven't talked to either one of them since last April. But fuck them; they're racist, homophomic morons anyway.
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KelsdadAll-Star
637 days ago
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Falcon to Ticketseller: I'd like one ticket to Tampa, please. Ticketseller to Falcon: Tickets to Tampa are free, please proceed to the station, the bandwagon is waiting for you.
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SSreportersLegend
637 days ago
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Napoleon to Ticketseller: I'd like one ticket to Tampa, and Seattle, Las Vegas, San Diego, Denver, New England, Boston, San Francisco, Minnesota. Ticketseller to Napoleon: For the 75th time, your 50 bandwagon limit has been broken, you can't join them.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
637 days ago
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Don't fall for that shit. You don't need to commit to anything!

That is brainwashing of logo apparel retailers and "diehard" fans that want you to join their misery!

Just be a "Fan" - like who you like - Love the game and it will love you back!!!

With roster and management turnover it's hard to stay true to yourself AND a single franchise.

Oh, and always root against the Yankees!!!
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JuTMSY4Legend
637 days ago
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Don't listen to Manny...

"With roster and management turnover it's hard to stay true to yourself AND a single franchise." - Can you really believe someone who says this?!?!

here's the deal, being a fan of a team isn't so much about players or logos or what looks cool or winning or anything else...

its about fandom. Its about finding the group you identify with...soul searching if you will...most people grow up in an area and always identify with it...

You're not so much committing to the team as you are to the brethren that will follow that team with you, and live and die by the results...
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JuTMSY4Legend
637 days ago
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which explains why i like the phillies...i know Montgomery et al are a bunch of greedy douches who are after my wallet and not my heart (sounds like an ex wife...but i don't know)...

but i'm not in it for them, i'm in it for the fans....those who you want to share your greatest achievements and failures...

you think i'm ok with the phillies...those owners are assholes...

Plus Chase Utley is a bonus...he's awesome...

alternate example? Baring some weird scenario where he ends up on another NFC east team, I'll be happy if McNabb leaves the eagles and wins a superbowl...
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SSreportersLegend
637 days ago
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+1 to you JuT. When I became a fan of the Seahawks I was definitely committed, so if this team goes 4-12, I won't drop the team.
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SSreportersLegend
637 days ago
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I wish I could go to a Seahawks game....but $44 for nosebleed tickets means no go.:(
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JuTMSY4Legend
637 days ago
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that's it...i dropped 50 for some eagles SROs the other day...and 60 for NE (vs. Philly) for the top level...
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JuTMSY4Legend
637 days ago
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well SSR, if Paul Allen starts porking you ( id on't see this happening), that's your fandom...

to me, thats when it transcends the franchise and is more about being a fan...

Obviously this shouldn't happen
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SSreportersLegend
637 days ago
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Philly has to be cheaper, Seattle has expensive everything! The fact that the Sonics still charge what they charge being a crap team is unbelievable.
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SSreportersLegend
637 days ago
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My fandom would be to search for the long lost city of Atlantis in the flab of Holmgren.
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JuTMSY4Legend
637 days ago
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the 60 was in new england...9 dollar beers too... 9 dollars for a bud light? "Suck one"
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
637 days ago
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Example - If your philosophy as a football fan is smashmouth and the franchise you've dedicated yourself to decides to go run and shoot - HOW can you stay true to yourself AND the team??
  • I love these little debates of ours, JuT - seriously, it's quite an interesting subject and I consider you an authority on the "Love is Blind, Dumb, Deaf and Masochistic" model of Fandom.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
637 days ago
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If you gave me 9 dollars I wouldn't drink a bud light!
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JuTMSY4Legend
637 days ago
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first...

yes, bud light sucks balls...i actually prefer busch light to bud light...

its not the team's philosophy, its the fans...like the raiders...they suck a lot, but their fans are still the same. Still nasty, dirty mean people who don't give a fuck...

and yeah, you're probably right about my fandom...in fact i'd say it might extend beyond sports...but that's for a different day and webpage...
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JuTMSY4Legend
637 days ago
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the suffering really breeds fans...their are only a few fan bases that can really talk about out and out dominance for major periods...such as the Yankees, Celtics, Lakers, canadiens and so on... the rest of us? We're normal
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
637 days ago
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Well, I'm weird too. I have traditionally rooted for the most obscure team I couold think of and when they start getting good, I pick a new obscure team to follow. Watch out Royals! I might be rooting for you in couple years when the Rays win back-to-back-to-back titles!!!
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JuTMSY4Legend
637 days ago
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perennial underdog fan? So what happens if the royals turn a 99 Rams like turnaround and win the big one...is that your ultimate goal?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
637 days ago
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Rays win, Royals win... Hello Pirates!!!

Whoever needs me the most!!! I'm good luck!

Ask the Phoenix Mercury and Saskatchewan Roughriders!!

(Or the teams that beat the Pats and Yankees!)

Hey, even the Cardinals went 8-8 this year!
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KelsdadAll-Star
637 days ago
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Busch light? AHHH!!

When the brewmaster finishes a new batch of Bud Light and straps on his boots and goes into the tank to clean it out, that shit he scrapes off the bottom of the tank? That's Busch Light.

(And BUD LIGHT is weasel piss...)
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
637 days ago
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I always thought that Bud Light was made from a fat guy in St Louis drinking a Bud then pissing into a Bud Light bottle. Whereas Bud is a fat guy drinking piss and then pissing it out into a bottle...
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JuTMSY4Legend
637 days ago
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plus falcon, you weren't a fan of the sox in 04...even 03...those guys are huge douches...

buts lets face facts here...would I be a phillies fan without Mitch Williams and Joe Carter...How about Cunningham and White (and Buddy Ryan and Ritchie Kotite!)...how about Eric Lindros and John Leclair (and Bobby Clark and Ed Snider)...

for all the suffering those guys brought me, they all started me out good...and tempered by fandom later
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JuTMSY4Legend
637 days ago
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those guys meaning the people that became fans in 03/04... I was at fenway then, during the Oakland series...and enjoyed it, but it was empty...how can you live in boston and not sit back and watch history being made as the sox ended the curse...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
637 days ago
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because the suck and no one "believed"- and that's why they will always suck.

My boss in '04 was a (self-labelled) "huge Red Sox fan" and I kept telling them I thought they could win it all and he kept saying "no way, they suck". Even after the Sox were down in the ALCS I stated "it's not over yet" and he was naming the Yankees Champs. After they won the Series he made the mistake of stating "I knew it when Boone hit that HR we'd win it all this year" in front of me in a meeting.

I went off on him! "WHAAAAAT DID YOU JUST SAY????" I almost lost my shit and my job and definitely made a fool out of both of us, but I had to do it...
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Falcon02520Legend
637 days ago
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actually, I was a fan of the Sox from 2001-well, just a couple months ago
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
637 days ago
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I have to admit, I enjoyed watching the Angels and White Sox end their "curses" way more than the "Red Sox". I was just happy to see the Yankees lose.
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JuTMSY4Legend
637 days ago
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Alright, i've got beers to drink...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
637 days ago
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ditto!!! Cheers! If you can't be good, at least be safe!!!
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OneflydudeAll-American
637 days ago
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While we'er discussing this, I have a quick question... When is the right time to hop off of the Lions fan-bus?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
637 days ago
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The wheels on the bus have fallen off, fallen off, fallen off... The answer: When it feels right, do it and don't look back! Fan Free Agency has some advantages!!
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Falcon02520Legend
637 days ago
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how long ago did Barry Sanders retire?
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OneflydudeAll-American
637 days ago
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I have the worst luck in the world...As soon as I stop being a Lions fan, they'll end up doing something and I'll look like a complete asshole
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
637 days ago
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Try it on for size: One Fly Asshole... could be worse!!! (see: Suffering Lions Fan)
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OneflydudeAll-American
637 days ago
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Ah man that was hilarious. If I hop off now, I would have to hope for the rest of my life that the Lions won't make a playoff appearance so I don't end up with that name.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
637 days ago
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Aren't you 50 years too late?

Well, at least you have a 5 year window after the finally can Millen. it will take a while to clean up that mess! I just remembered something I wrote a while back...

From "Rumors I just Started"

Rumor 5 - The Detroit Lions are changing their main color to Pink next season. "It really should have been done a long time ago; to better reflect our roster, management staff and team philosophy" said Matt Millen. After hearing of the impending color change, actor Vincent Patore made the logical deduction and said "I'll kick somebody's ass if they try to rename that team after my character's name on 'the Sopranos'..."
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OneflydudeAll-American
637 days ago
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Shit, at least pink would be better than that lame ass animal cracker logo...

detroit_lions_logo.jpg

What a piece of shit. Can I get a real Lion? Jacksonville has a real Jaguar, Carolina has a real Panther. What the hell is up with this "blob" that we have. It's ridiculous.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
637 days ago
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You bring up something interesting that has bothered me ever since Carolina and Jacksonville joined the NFL at the same time:

I have always loved big cats and this kills me...

A panther and a jaguar are the same animal.

Melanistic (black) jaguars are called panthers.

The Panther that the Carolina team named themselves after is supposedly a black Florida Panther which is complete folklore. A Florida panther is just a cougar/puma/mountain lion that is native to Florida and has never been proven to be melanistic.

Jaguars are commonly melanistic, cougars aren't (so hockey's Florida Panthers have it right).

A black panther (like on the Carolina helmet) IS a jaguar!!!
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KelsdadAll-Star
637 days ago
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Mad props to you OFD for even admitting your a Lions fan!!
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OneflydudeAll-American
637 days ago
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It's hard man, it's hard.
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OneflydudeAll-American
637 days ago
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...(that's what she said)
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SSreportersLegend
637 days ago
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Do you always come out like this? (That's what she said)
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RomiezzoLegend
636 days ago
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You know what else is hard, Kelsdad? To admit that you like Derek Jeter as a Red Sox fan. ;)
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Behbigben15All-Star
637 days ago
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I believe it's the Pittsburgh Penguins, not the Pirates. The Pirates would be baseball. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT:)
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RomiezzoLegend
636 days ago
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It is great to know someone who is just like me. As a Pats fan, I was disappointed that they didn't go undefeated/win the SB, BUT as an NFL fan (which I'm a much bigger fan of) I liked the fact that the Giants won and Eli Manning got a superbowl ring.

This is one of my morals: I'm a sports fan, above all.

THEN, I'm a baseball fan, basketball fan, football fan, etc.

THEN, I'm a fan of the underdog.

THEN, I'm a fan of what I consider my home team.


Falcon has, once again, brought up a point that I've been wanting to talk about for a while.

On a side note, I've been a Red Sox/Pats/Celtics/(Bruins) fan for about 3 years now. I don't see why I can't be a fan of just the sport.
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SSreportersLegend
636 days ago
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Pittsburgh has a baseball team?
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RomiezzoLegend
635 days ago
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And a hockey team AND a football team that just won the Superbowl about 2 years ago... believe THAT!
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Simms1156Div-I Stud
636 days ago
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I never really looked at the Lions symbol until just now. Like I knew exactly what it looked like but I just hadnt critiqued it or anything. That is a terrible logo.
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Simms1156Div-I Stud
636 days ago
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And to Falcon, I think it is perfectly fine to not be a fan of any team in a sport. I personally would have trouble doing it with my favorite sport such as baseball for you but I can see your dilemma. I feel where you are coming from with the tough beginnings of fandom. I have been raised around Philly all of my life, my dad wasnt a huge football fan (he is now because of watching games with me for years) and my mom always rooted for the team with the prettier helmets, until they one and then she felt bad for the players that lost. Anyway, my main connection to football was with my grandfather who is a die-hard Eagles fan but for as long as I can remember I have been a Giants fan, I dont exactly know how it happend but it is kind of wierd.

In sports that are not my number one I have trouble with my favorite teams. In baseball I like the Phillies and always have, I even go to the occasional game, but I have a really hard time rooting against the underdog (I feel you Manny). I have sworn off hockey since the lockout so I wont get into that. Basketball- I was raised during the time period when the Bulls were dominant and since nobody in my family can tolerate to watch a whole basketball game I had no outside influences on that choice. I chose the Bulls because of their dominance and the fact that I loved how great Jordan was. Now I often times cheer for the 6ers but when it comes down to it the Bulls are where its at for me. I am always steadfast in who I hate: Eagles, Cowboys, Redskins, (I was so glad when the Cardinals left the NFC East because now I can cheer for the Cardinals when their results dont affect the Giants) Yankees, the Jazz, and Notre Dame (Go Michigan) P.S. I dont know why I hate the Jazz but I cannot tolerate to watch the Jazz win games.


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Napoleon15Red-Shirting
634 days ago
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Personally, I don't see what the big deal about messed-up fandoms is, but that's just me. You all know I root for dozens and dozens of different teams. I'd welcome you as a Bronco "fan" if you wished to be one, Falcon.
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Napoleon15Red-Shirting
634 days ago
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Or a Rockies fan, too.
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Agent0Red-Shirting
634 days ago
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If I were you Falcon...I would join the best basbeall team around...SAN FRAN GIANTS BABY!
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Agent0Red-Shirting
634 days ago
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This is the perfect time too...because all these young faces are starting to get jobs and rise to the top...so you can see the foundation of the Giants Franchise begin their careers now. in a few years we will be the World Series Champs!
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False ProphetAll-Star
634 days ago
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I'd give you advice on baseball, but I cannot stand it. To much slightly above average teams to get dissapointed by for me. Screw Baseball, Hockey and Football are all you need until March Madness, then Basketball enters my sight of vision. The NBA isn't all that intriguing until the push for the playoffs for a casual fan
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Napoleon15Red-Shirting
634 days ago
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I think you should be a Colorado Rockies fan. Most of us here in Colorado haven't been "diehard" fans for very long anyway (since last September, or thereabouts).
This user is a Colorado Rockies fan.
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