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Let's Go Yankstons

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by user Friskysman

If you follow baseball, you are probably aware of the ongoing crisis in which it is quite possible that seven of the eight starters on the American League All Star team could be from either the New York Yankees or the Boston Red Sox. This is not necessarily because those teams have good players, but has more to do with an East Coast-centric media and their influence on the rest of the country.

This situation has convinced me that fans should no longer have a say in the All Star rosters. Year after year we see undeserving players get voted in on name and reputation alone, and it is media outlets like ESPN that shove the East Coast names down our throats. You know you have a problem when every single meaningless game of a Yankees/Sox series in May is on national television. Meanwhile, you have to be the next Babe Ruth if you want to get any media recognition playing for a team outside of Boston or New York.

All this being said, I thought it would be interesting to take a look at what the American League All Star team would look like if it were chosen based on my method. What is my method, you ask? I say, forget votes. Just pick the best players. Thankfully, there are these things called “statistics” that allow us to measure a player’s performance throughout the season. I think they could probably be used in a way in which we could determine who the best players are and put them on the All Star team. It’s a stretch, I know, but I went ahead and tested it out and it seems to work.

Now, there are all sorts of stats we could use to do this, but I took the simplest method and just ranked players in the most popular statistical categories. This is a nice compromise in that, while the selection process is no longer a popularity contest, we can still use the stats most point to in the popularity contest. Therefore, I ranked players in the categories of runs scored, runs batted in, homeruns, batting average, on-base plus slugging, and I gave a smaller bonus for stolen base leaders. Based on that, here is your roster for the 2006 American League All Stars:

Catcher: Joe Mauer, backup: Victor Martinez
First Base: Jim Thome, backup: Travis Hafner
Second Base: Jose Lopez, backup: Tadahito Iguchi
Third Base: Alex Rodriguez, backup: Troy Glaus
Short Stop: Miguel Tejada, backup: Derek Jeter
Outfield: Jermaine Dye, backup: Grady Sizemore
Outfield: Vernon Wells, backup: Manny Ramirez
Outfield: Ichiro Suzuki, backup: Nick Swisher

So there you have it. One Yankee starter and two Yankee/Boston backups. That seems about right to me. No, not all of the biggest names are there, but that’s still a great team and would probably do a service to MLB by exposing the world to more than just the Yankees and Red Sox. I would watch an All Star game with that team. As it stands right now, I will probably rent a movie.


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Fri 06/23/06, 5:18 am EST

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Patrickburke1980All-American
1256 days ago
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If you're going to go on statistics, wouldn't Glaus get the nod over A-Rod?
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FriskysmanVarsity Captain
1256 days ago
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Based on my method, A-Rod beat out Glaus by three points. Both lead in two categories and both are second in two categories. The tiebreaker was batting average and stolen bases.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1256 days ago
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At the end of the day, MLB will want people to vote. That way they'll get the players that most people want to see playing. That makes them more money. Stats would be a much better way of doing it, but I can't see MLB doing it.
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SteaksammichRed-Shirting
1256 days ago
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Yeah, it is what they want. It's a way for the fans to get involved and feel as if they have an impact on the sport. It may not be the best way to do things because people are pretty stupid. But it is a way to get the fans involved.
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
1256 days ago
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Your East Coast Bias theory is sketchy because of one simple reason: ratings. ESPN will get more viewers by showing a Boston-New York game (big markets) than a Washington-Florida game. However, ESPN is located about an hour or two from either city, so the Bias theory may not be a stretch by any means.
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FriskysmanVarsity Captain
1256 days ago
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That's my point. Sure they will get more ratings showing a BOS/NY game, but why? It's not because those are the best teams. If that were the case, a Tigers/White Sox game would be off the charts. I just think we've had this rivarly shoved down our throats for so long that we're programmed to think it's the most important thing out there. If ESPN would promote the GOOD teams and players and not just the POPULAR teams and players, we wouldn't have to worry about problems such as this All Star debacle.
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
1256 days ago
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The New York metropolitan area has well over 10 million people living in it. Are you suggesting that 625,000 people living in Milwaukee would outvote those 10 million if the Boston-New York games weren't televised so much?
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
1256 days ago
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My point being that rarely do people vote for the best player for the position. They vote for their favorite team's players. It's a popularity contest no matter which way you slice it.
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FriskysmanVarsity Captain
1256 days ago
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No. I'm suggesting that more of those 10 million in New York would vote for Milwaukee if they knew the Brewers actually had good players. The Brewers have a very good young team, but very few people know anything about them because ESPN is too busy going on about the Yankees, the Red Sox, Barry Bonds, and Roger Clemens.
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XinophDraft Pick
1256 days ago
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No, they wouldn't. There aren't a lot of good players in Milwaukee. That's what you get for having Selig own the team for so long.
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Trigsgirl
1256 days ago
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not a lot of good players on the brewers? that infield of weeks, hall and fielder is very good. the brewers are definitely a team on the rise. the brewers are just one example, though. goodnes, joe mauer is hitting .375! how many people know who he even plays for?
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XinophDraft Pick
1255 days ago
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I suppose that's why Milwaukee has a .500 record? Because there are just so many good players? Get a grip. There aren't half as many good players on the Brewers as on the Yankees or Red Sox - or Cardinals or White Sox, for that matter.
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The sharkDraft Pick
1256 days ago
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I may be completely alone in this opinion and if I am, so be it. But with all of the money that baseball fans provide to the players, the owners, and the sport in general, I am of the opinion that the fans deserve to elect the all-stars. That being said, maybe the game ought not influence home-field advantage in the WS. But to take the vote away from the fans would be another slap in the face to the source of salaries and new ball parks. With the 94 season still semi-fresh in memories and the recent steroids controversy, MLB should avoid slapping the fans in the face - even if the fans' ballots contain 9 Kansas City Royals, 3 Atlanta Braves, 3 Florida Marlins, and 3 Pittsburgh Pirates.
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FriskysmanVarsity Captain
1256 days ago
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There is certainly something to be said for respecting the fans. I, personally, have lost all faith in their (our) ability to choose the best players rather than the most popular ones. This is the All STAR game. To me, that means the best players. Every year there seems to be a player or two that breaks out and gets off to a great start, but so many times they don't end up being recognized by the fans. Maybe we could have the starters chosen based on stats and let the fans have a say in some of the reserves. I don't know, but if we end up with a 6-7 of the AL starters being Yankees or Sox, I think something needs to be changed.
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The sharkDraft Pick
1256 days ago
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I certainly understand your point. But the fans deserve the vote - no matter who they elect. Home-field advantage should be removed from the equation and allow it to be an exhibition. The 50 players the fans want to see play against each other. Our money and loyalty should be worth at least that much.
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FriskysmanVarsity Captain
1256 days ago
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Well, one thing we agree on...the All Star game should NOT determine homefield for the World Series. That one deserves an article of its own. But it would be quite short: GIVE IT TO THE TEAM WITH THE BEST REGULAR SEASON RECORD!
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XinophDraft Pick
1256 days ago
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Amen, Shark. Too many fans think they know better than everyone else who the "real" All-Stars are. Why is your list better than anyone else's? To think you know better than millions of fans is the height of arrogance, it seems to me.
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XinophDraft Pick
1256 days ago
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Worst All-Star list I've ever seen, sounds like a rant from a biter Midwestern fan. Can't you just accept that the Yankees and the Sox have the best players and move on? It's not a vast media conspiracy. Get over it. Blame your managment for not running your team well enough to get these kind of players, not the media for focusing on Boston and New York.
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FriskysmanVarsity Captain
1256 days ago
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Thank you for coming here and showing your ignorance of everything non-East coast related. My All Star list was picked based on stats. What, are you going to argue against black and white facts now? You want to talk about arrogance, take a look in the mirror. NY/BOS fans such as yourself are the definition of it.
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XinophDraft Pick
1255 days ago
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You're right, because I disagree with you I must be ignorant. Very open-minded, keep up that attitude. All-Star lists based on stats are terrible. Absolutely awful. You're the one who can't deal with differing views, apparently.
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XinophDraft Pick
1255 days ago
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As I noted above, it is the height of arrogance to think that you know better than millions of fans put together. Why is your list any better? Ah, because you made it. But of course. What was I thinking? How could I question your almighty stats knowledge. Silly me.
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FriskysmanVarsity Captain
1255 days ago
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You get funnier and funnier by the moment. Choosing All Stars based on stats is "terrible"? I suppose, then, that choosing playoff teams based on won-lost records is terrible too. Why not just get rid of the NL, skip the regular season, and have the Yankees and Red Sox play for the championship every year? You say my method is "terrible," but you offer no alternative, except, I guess, to just put all the Yankees and Red Sox in the All Star Game because they have the "best players" (which I just proved to be false via FACTS). And as far as why I didn't include defense in the equation, if you want to make a method including defense, be my guest. I based mine on offense, which was part of the compromise of going with "popular" statistical categories. We could have a civlized debate on that point, but you seem content to just toss personal insult after personal insult towards me. If you decide to have an intelligent thought, let me know.
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XinophDraft Pick
1255 days ago
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XinophDraft Pick
1255 days ago
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You know what, genius? I didn't see any mention of defense in your brilliant statistical method.n How many combined errors does your Less-East-Coasters Team have?
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
1253 days ago
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Friskysman, why are you wasting your time with what appears to be a 13 year old New Englander on summer vacation? Xinoph obviously doesn't understand anything about baseball past the pretty pictures on the front of his newest pack of trading cards.
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XinophDraft Pick
1226 days ago
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Yes, because I disagree with the Great And All-Knowing CPCP I am totally ignorant. Thanks for that insightful comment, yet again.
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Godot987
1249 days ago
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This argument is ridiculous. It's a list based on stats. It's a very logical way of approaching the issue. Anyone panning it is an idiot. This is a site to discuss sports and this post is an interesting addition to the discussion. Xinoph, you must be one of the most closed-minded sad little people I've ever seen. I'd hate to see what you're like in person.
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FriskysmanVarsity Captain
1249 days ago
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Um...amen. That's all I got. But I don't think Xino will be back anytime soon to read your beautiful rant. He ran off when facts were presented.
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XinophDraft Pick
1226 days ago
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Wait, I'm close-minded because I disagree with you? Brilliant argument. Very insightful. I'm glad you're here to present your useless views.
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