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Les Miles makes this too easy

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by Suckatsports

Late yesterday afternoon, a post caught my eye on one of the college football message boards. The author caught a piece of PTI where Les Miles was positioning himself toward an undefeated season because the team never lost in regulation, only in overtime. This seemed too good to be true, but lo and behold he is indeed that stupid.

Since reading that, I've been trying to find exactly the right words to eloquently describe my reactions to this. And I can't, at least not eloquently. Not too long ago, in jest I said to my friend that any SEC loss actually counts for half a loss, and SEC wins counts doubly as much. Les Miles takes it a step further.

This team has not lost a game in regulation. I know it does not mean much to you guys (media.) The point is, in a 60 minutes game, we play as competitive as we can be. There is not a team that we have played that has bested us in the first 60 minutes. If you had to look at the length and width of the game, that is how it is measured. Then you go to overtime, and I think our overtime system is just as flawed as any other overtime system. It’s just the way it is and it is probably correct. You have to decide it then where it takes the length of the field and certain situations out of it. It is imperfect, but a darn good system. You tell me if there are other teams in this country that can say that. If you just give us ties, like in the old system, we are undefeated with two ties. Maybe that adds up as one lost.

Now, from my understanding, the overtime system has been around for a couple years, it's not new this year. And [I hope] he is fully aware that if you are tied at the end of regulation, you go into overtime. Sure, the system isn't perfect, but it's not so horribly flawed as to discount the wins or losses gained in the final frame. On the other hand, ties are great - in 1975. This guy is perfect for Michigan.

Go find a team that has losses that only came in overtime. Go find a team that compares competitively with five nationally-ranked teams and has done extremely well. I am talking about our team and what we can be, not what we just lost.

Bam, and you thought he was done. LSU has faced in impressively difficult schedule, and their wins make up arguably the best resume for a competitive team in college football. But out of all the great teams that they've beaten, they managed to lose to the two possible worst foes on their schedule, both unranked now. Not to mention that one of those losses came to an unranked team at home on senior day, an inexcusable loss if you're to play for the national championship.

If they beat Arkansas and if they beat UK they're undefeated! That logic is absolutely bullet proof. If the officials call a fumble on Dufrene's 80 yard run, Illinois doesn't score that touchdown and OSU is undefeated. If no one gets hurt on USC, they blow every team out and are undefeated. If ifs and buts were candy and nuts. I guess what they say is true: don't argue with a moron. He'll drag you to his level and beat you with experience.

Miles address Media LSU Sports via Fanhouse

This post is cross-published from We Suck at Sports.


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DNLLegend
737 days ago
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You know, I don't think he's *that* crazy. (I think he's crazy, but not *that* crazy.) Overtime is pretty much a piece of junk, statistically -- there's really no reason to think that it's more effective of a decider than slightly-weighted coin flip. And that's the nuts-and-bolts case to just revert back to the old rules, where a tie at regulation went down as a tie. (I have no idea how one would handle bowl games and conference title games.) If that rule were in place, I think it's hard to take a one-loss Ohio State team over an x-0-2 LSU team.
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SuckatsportsVarsity
737 days ago
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But, this isn't 1975, and there are overtimes. And they do count like real wins and losses.

And it's not NFL overtime where you can lose without touching the ball. Each team has an equal chance of both scoring and keeping the other team from doing so, so it's really not like a coin toss at all. It's completely up to the players. So yes, to say that his team is basically undefeated" is both moronic, completely crazy, and insulting to the teams that DID beat them. Because, I'm pretty sure they had their shot to win in both regulation AND overtime, and didn't do it.

They lost to two mediocre (at best) teams. One at home. In fact, they got lucky and won several games they should have lost. There's no reason to give this team 5 chances at the NC game, when every other team in the country is lucky to get 2nd life.
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DNLLegend
737 days ago
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Yeah, I agree with all of that -- which is why I still think he's crazy :)
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JuTMSY4Legend
737 days ago
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to put it to the extreme, where would an 0-0-11 team rank in the SEC besides a ridiculous statistal anomaly?
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
737 days ago
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Michigan might want to widen their head coach search a little more.
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SuckatsportsVarsity
737 days ago
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I'll gladly pay for the airfare to get him to Michigan. As an OSU fan, watching this is like an early holidays gift.
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Amilke60Div-I Stud
737 days ago
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And I think level headed LSU fan (which there aren't many of) would happily join you and pay half of that airfare.

Being from the state of Louisiana, I never quite understood why they hired Les. He didn't exactly seem to be the coach that they were looking for and I still don't think he is. But you know they hired him and the following phrase came into view of many LSU fans:

"Les Miles equals fewer smiles."
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SuckatsportsVarsity
737 days ago
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I agree, I never understood that hire. Les Miles was just an average coach at Oklahoma State, never really elevated his team. Now, he's doing quite the same thing with LSU, which is absolutely loaded. There's just no excuse for losing two games a year with the talent that he's had on his hands. And yeah, SEC schedule is tough, but just look at the games he's lost. Blown leads, dumb plays, under achieving teams. It's just so crazy that he's on everyone's short list for every big coaching job. What has the guy EVER done?
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
737 days ago
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Les must subscribe to the Charlie Weis Newsletter for Overhyping Football Coaches.
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Amilke60Div-I Stud
737 days ago
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I still don't agree with his coaching calls in the Florida game and you are right about the talent. A blind man could do as well with this team if not better.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
737 days ago
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Please, Michigan, take him off our hands.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
737 days ago
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Actually, Lou Holtz this past weekend was the one who first suggested that LSU would be 10-0-2 and undefeated in pre-OT days, not Miles. And the savior of all Bama fans, Nick Saban, has on numerous occasions suggested that starting at the 25 yd line is nothing more than a situational scrimmage. He has a point in that teams thrive on creating mistakes through the course of a 8-10 play drive don't have that opportunity.
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SuckatsportsVarsity
737 days ago
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Well there you go. If Les Miles is taking suggestions from Lou Holtz, he should probably shoot himself in the face. Lou Holtz is an insane old man, who is completely out of touch with reality. However, I do agree on the 25 yard line start. I'd like to see that moved back so that even a field goal isn't that easy. But you also have to remember, 25 yard line and in also helps a defense because there's only so much room left. Thus harder to score in the red zone. Yes, I know red zone is 20 and in, so let's call it 2nd and 5.
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Amilke60Div-I Stud
737 days ago
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Lou Holtz may know his football but he just needs to hang it up and retire. I respect the man greatly but he can't even talk anymore so I'm not sure how you understood what he said this past weekend. Many congratulations to you because I sure can't understand him anymore.
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JuTMSY4Legend
737 days ago
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why not simply have each team kick off to eachother? (and i'm literally just throwing it out there...refute on!)
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SuckatsportsVarsity
737 days ago
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I'd have no problems with that. It would be like the NFL overtime, except you can answer a score by getting the ball back. If you don't answer, you lose.
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1MountaineerWaterboy
737 days ago
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The rules were in place, everyone knows them, should be prepared for the situation or not let yourself get to that situation. Fact is LSU lost those games fair and square.
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DNLLegend
737 days ago
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Les, here's a clue for you: To make the national title game, all you have to do is win each of your games. That's true for LSU and every other team in the nation*. Win. Not "not lose", but actually win. * Continental U.S. only
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SuckatsportsVarsity
737 days ago
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Excellent point. Only one time has a team gone undefeated and been locked out of a title game: Auburn 2004, and that was an injustice. However, I think if a team loses, under any circumstances what-so-ever they are no longer allowed to complain about making it into the title game, and deserve whatever fate befalls them when the computer makes a decision.

As an OSU fan, I can't complain about not playing in the NC if both Mizzou and WVU win. Lost to Illinois, at home no less: get out. Just like LSU isn't allowed to complain: 2 losses to unranked teams - get out.

Start griping when you HAVEN'T lost any games.
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NejoshiDiv-I Stud
737 days ago
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Let the griping in Hawaii begin!
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Anonymous Fanatic #3
737 days ago
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LUS gave Lester the keys to a formula one race car.... when he and his race *team* can't win the "race" against lesser "teams" and talent.... then it's time to take away the keys! Next train to Ann Arbor... alllllllllllllll aboooooooooooard!!!!!!!
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
737 days ago
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Les Miles is related to Norv Turner?
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LMedina86JV Squad
737 days ago
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As a Michigan football fan, I'm shocked. All I've heard was hype about how great Miles would be for UM and then he says that???? Maybe UM might want to look elsewhere if that is the case.
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