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Josh Beckett Is Overrated

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by user Chachi

That's right, I said it. Josh Beckett is probably the most overvalued pitcher in the American League and the Red Sox will end up regretting the 3 year extension they gave him this year.

Much has been made of the difference in talent level between the AL and the NL over the last few years and perhaps Mr. Beckett is learning that it's true the hard way. In 2003, Beckett pitched 142 innings in 23 starts. He posted a nice 3.04 ERA while allowing 48 earned runs, 9 homeruns, and striking out 152 batters. This season, he has pitched 146.1 innings over 24 starts allowing 80 earned runs and 31 homeruns, making his ERA 4.92, and has only stuck out 120 batters. Heck, last season he pitched 178.2 innings and only allowed 67 runs and 14 homeruns.

As I was thinking of how overrated Beckett is, and how he's built an entire legacy on one game of the 2003 World Series, I thought of another pitcher who signed a 3 year extension as well this year. A pitcher who many questioned giving an extension to while applauding the Beckett extension. I thought of Kelvim Escobar.

So I decided to compare their stats totally expecting the much beloved and lauded over Mr. Beckett's to outshine the seldom heard from Mr. Escobar's. Boy was I wrong.

For the Season
Beckett - 24 GS, 146.1 IP, 4.92 ERA, 80 ER, 31 HR, 46 BB, 120 K
Escobar - 21 GS, 132.2 IP, 3.73 ERA, 55 ER, 12 HR, 38 BB, 101 K

As you can see, Escobar's season stats are far and away better than Beckett's. Yes, I realize that Escobar has made 3 fewer starts, but in those 3 starts he would have to surrender an average of 8 runs, 6 homers, and 3 walks to catch up to Beckett's "lofty" numbers.

Ok, so what you say. Beckett was brought in for the big games and to beat the Yankees, White Sox, and A's in the playoffs and help carry this team to the World Series. I agree. He made his reputation on winning the big games and in Boston that's all that matters. Here's how Beckett and Escobar have pitched this season against the three previously mentioned teams.

Versus NYY, CWS, & OAK
Beckett - 5 GS: 3-2, 9.30 ERA
Escobar - 6 GS: 3-1, 2.92 ERA

Once again, Escobar looks to be a much better option against big name clubs in the AL. I also recognize that 5 games is a small sample so I also took a look at any game each pitcher has pitched this season against teams that are currently in the playoff hunt in the AL. After all, games against any of these teams will mean more come September. The teams included are the Yankees, White Sox, Red Sox, A's, Blue Jays, Twins, and the Angels. Both pitchers have pitched 10 games against some combination of these teams.

Versus Playoff Contenders
Beckett - 10 GS: 4-3, 7.34 ERA
Escobar - 10 GS: 6-2, 2.70 ERA

If you take a look at the numbers I think it's obvious that right now Kelvim Escobar is a better pitcher against the contending teams in the AL and he may very well have a bigger positive impact on his team down the stretch than Josh Beckett. Also, Escobar's 3 year extension may turn out to be a much wiser move than Beckett's when all is said and done (and I'm assuming a cheaper one, but I couldn't find exact numbers for either's extension).

Hopefully Young Theo doesn't get too much hate mail three years from now when Hanley Ramirez is starting in the All-Star Game at shortstop and Beckett's a washed up fifth starter on the Indians. (Wow, a Red Sox burn and Indians burn in the final paragraph, now that's what I call an ending!)


Date

Thu 08/10/06, 7:24 am EST


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PeanMajor Leaguer
1206 days ago
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greatest opinion article ever.
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ChachiOSUDraft Pick
1206 days ago
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Thank You! Thank You! I'll be here all weak. And I'm happy a Yankee fan got a comment in before the Red Sox fans go bonkers.
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
1206 days ago
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You'll be here "all weak" huh? It's nice you can admit your vuneralbilites. :-)
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ChachiOSUDraft Pick
1206 days ago
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Yeah...I noticed that and was wondering when somebody would say something. Thanks cpcp.
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The sharkDraft Pick
1206 days ago
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Sour grapes over a certain game he pitched in October 2003, methinks.
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The sharkDraft Pick
1206 days ago
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Although a very good article. Nice facts and research.
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PeanMajor Leaguer
1206 days ago
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im pretty sure it has something to do with his flirtation with a 5 ERA
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Patrickburke1980All-American
1206 days ago
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wow, wow, wow. i could not agree more. I thought this to myself after seeing beckett on the cover of ESPN the mag. How great can someone be who consistantly underpermforms. Yes, he has a lot of wins this year but his ERA IS !!! Great job.
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Patrickburke1980All-American
1206 days ago
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era is 5 that is.
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The sharkDraft Pick
1206 days ago
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But let's not forget, it's his first year in the AL. His career stats are much better than what he's done this year, so it's a logical conclusion to think he has a good chance of turning it around in the AL, once he figures it out.
I'll let Father Time answer this one.
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ChachiOSUDraft Pick
1206 days ago
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Only time will tell. Although in 3 years if we are driving to Cleveland to see him pitch for the Tribe you're buying the beer.
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The sharkDraft Pick
1206 days ago
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If you pay for the gas.
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The sharkDraft Pick
940 days ago
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So far based on this year, I'll pat myself on the back for the above comment.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1206 days ago
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I believe that once you're on ESPN the mag's cover, you are either overrated or soon will be. "Oooooh! Josh Beckett" (even though it is sure-fire, how long before O!F gets annoying?)
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ChachiOSUDraft Pick
1206 days ago
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Right....about...now!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1206 days ago
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but as the old adage goes, we're all 0-0 once the playoffs start...
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DNLLegend
1206 days ago
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O!F is here to stay, so I created a redirect. :)
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1206 days ago
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"Ooooh, D-..."

Yep, DNL has it!!!

(no matter how annoying it may seem to be, when applied correctly, it never gets unfunny, ask Michael Olowakandi)
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
1206 days ago
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Actually, it is very "unfunny" and completely annoying.
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PeanMajor Leaguer
1206 days ago
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i hate when quotes are used for no reason, why is it "unfunny"
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1206 days ago
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not as annoying as anonymous posters... armchair up, whimp!
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The sharkDraft Pick
1206 days ago
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Randy Johnson 12-9, 5.03 ERA, 1.26 WHIP, 44 BB, 126 K, .311 OPP AVG.


Josh Beckett 13-6, 4.92 ERA, 1.26 WHIP, 46 BB, 120 K, .311 OPP AVG.


Throw in the salaries and HMMM...
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ChachiOSUDraft Pick
1206 days ago
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Yes, but everybody knows Johnson is on the down side of his HOF career.
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The sharkDraft Pick
1206 days ago
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Everyone but Brian Cashman, apparently.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1206 days ago
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I think Cashman knows... (I always thought it was funny that Steinbrenner hired a guy named "Cash man" to be his puppet)
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ChachiOSUDraft Pick
1206 days ago
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Hey, on Manny's O!F Johnson still ranks higher than Beckett.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1206 days ago
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that's the truth... although for the most part O!F isn't measured as something you can have less or more than, you either have it, somewhat have it or you clearly don't.
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Jgov05All-American
1206 days ago
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I haven't figured out a way to use the O!F without sounding completely gay.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1206 days ago
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It's not the O!F, it's you...not that there's anything wrong with quoting Seinfeld in here...
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Ray agmJV Squad
1206 days ago
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Excellent research and a very convincing argument. I have to give mad props. Sometimes it seems America has a love affair with Beckett. He looks like a young Roger Clemens and him being in Boston adds to that mystique. Maybe people just don't like the name Escobar.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1206 days ago
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maybe the article SHOULD have been titled "Escobar is UNDERrated"? Of course, no one would have read it, then; but me - I read 'em all! (and comment on too manny of them)
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Dukeboy999Varsity Captain
1206 days ago
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Beckett is overrated and Escobar underrated.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1206 days ago
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There you go+... so...Are you John Schneider or Tom Wopat? (Not one of the scabs, I hope?)
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CochiseWaterboy
1206 days ago
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Yup he is overrated, and the worst part is that a lot of people don't bother looking up his very high ERA and just see the 13 wins and figure he is one of the best AL pitchers, when in fact there are at least 10-15 with better overall numbers than him.


That being said, this is his first season and he DOES have a WS ring that he had a big part of. If he pitches near or over 200 innings and finishes with 16-17 wins I'd be happy with his performence. Health was the main concern with him after all.
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JCantRootWaterboy
1206 days ago
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This was a well researched article with just enough bitterness leaking through. I liked it. If you sat down and thought about it for a few minutes, you could probably come up with several players that are overrated in general baseball circles because of a single strong season or playoff performance.
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OpinionatedLittle Leaguer
1206 days ago
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How is a #3/4 pitcher in the rotation with 13 wins over-rated? At this point in the season, I think any team would take that. Yeah he's #2 now behind Schilling, but Wakefield and Clement were in front of him in the rotation when the season started before being hit with injuries. Just because the Redsox may have over-paid for him, doesnt make him over-rated.
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ChachiOSUDraft Pick
1206 days ago
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First of all, he's definitely their #2. Wakefield is a solid #3 and Clement had a strong first half last year that made him seem better than he was. They brought Beckett in to be the #2, not the 3 or 4. And it's not so much that he's overpaid, it's the fact that he's way overhyped for a guy with an ERA just below 5 and has given up a ton of HR this year.
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HappyskinnyAll-American
1206 days ago
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You cannot deny that Josh Beckett has great stuff. Either you have never seen him pitch, or you are just in complete denial. His problem is that he is all power and nothing else right now. He lacks a complementary pitch. He is not confident with his cruveball right now, so he cannot control it. In the offseason he just needs to develop that pitch, or maybe a cut fastball. Lets not forget, he is still only 26. I think it is a little early to call him overrated.
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ChachiOSUDraft Pick
1206 days ago
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Plenty of guys have great stuff that are horrible. For an example see: Weaver, Jeff.
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Bobbyjim45Draft Pick
1206 days ago
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Beckett's home run numbers are what's most troubling to me. I mean, he's winning games, but he's also getting run support. I'm worried about him, but, as said before, he's got plenty of career left at only 26.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1205 days ago
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You would have to believe he will make an adjustment to get that ridiculous HR rate down.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
1195 days ago
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Beckett will turn it around. He's too young and talented not to.
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Anonymous Fanatic #3
1190 days ago
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Can't the poor guy get some support this is his 1st year in the AL still adjusting to it... It wouldn't hurt to have some patience in some of you ppl. He is still learning at a fairly young age. I strongly believe he will evenutally put it all together and be show everyone the real nasty pitcher he can be.
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Anonymous Fanatic #4
766 days ago
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I'd like to clear some things up between all of you "baseball experts" in the comments and the information and opinions in this article criticizing the Red Sox ace pitcher. First, Josh Beckett's performance in 2007 is worth the entire amount of the contract extension. Winning 20 games and probably the Cy Young Award is nice, but his absolutley dominating performance in the post season is a cherry on top. I have watched Beckett through his young career in Boston and although he started relatively slow (which I attribute to the change in divisions and big stage at Boston) he has proven his worth. So next time you want to write an article criticizing a pitcher why not wait until the deal pans out before sounding like a jackass when he takes the team on his back and wins a World Series... there is research, but overall, attrocious article and juvenile writing style.
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Anonymous Fanatic #5
727 days ago
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Yup, this article sure proved out to be utterly stupid. The only mistake the Red Sox made was not giving Beckett a longer extension.
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Anonymous Fanatic #6
512 days ago
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i watched Josh pitch at Spring H.S. He was a great pitcher then and hes a great pitcher now. If a big game is on the line i wouldnt want any other guy on the mound. I might be a bit bias in my opinion but you Josh haters would be singing a different tune if he was pitching for your favorite team. By the way im a Astros fan not Red Sox.
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Anonymous Fanatic #6
512 days ago
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Kelvim who? Hey Chachi, wheres Joannie?
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