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John Maine Was Screwed -- By Us

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by user DNL

John Maine should be an All-Star. Let’s make that clear. He’s tied for the league lead in wins. Maine is fourth in WHIP, ERA, and ERA+. His 93 strikeouts and 7.63 K/9 place him just outside the top 10 (94 and 7.74 being the respective cut-offs). Let’s lay this to rest: John Maine should be an All-Star, and it truly isn’t close. Most Mets fans would agree.

Take, for example, the large Mets fan group on Facebook. The newly-launched "Global New York Mets Fan Blog", a fellow traveler of the Facebook group, has its pulse on the sentiment:

In an effort to make sure I was not a homer, I took all five final vote candidates and easily compared their numbers to Maine's. Hands down, John Maine numbers are better in almost every category than every candidate but Chris Young of the Padres. Therefore, I suppose we could all sit back here and argue he got snubbed but what's the use. One of the "bigger name" pitchers will be chosen for that final spot[.] […] Sure there is an outside chance Maine can still make the squad if someone drops out in the coming days, but his numbers thus far earned him a place on the original All-Star staff, not a spot as an afterthought.

And Mets fans aren’t really happy about it. On MetsBlog, Regis Courtemanche sums up the complaints:

it's just really too bad and seemingly very unfair that maine was passed over again for the popularity contest that is the all-star game...what can you do.

I find Courtemanche’s complaint – “unfair,” “popularity contest,” “what can you do” – to be both intellectually dishonest and unseemly. As Mets fans, we have absolutely no right to complain.

Why?

Two words: Carlos Beltran.

I like Carlos Beltran. I think he’s a great player. But he should not be an All-Star this year. His 118 OPS+ is nowhere near top 10 (Ken Griffey Jr. is 10th with a 142). His 16 homers matches that of Brandon Phillips and Chris Duncan. His .340 OBP is over 50 points out of the top 10, and his .470 slugging is 85 points out of the top 10 there. He’s having a good year, but not an All-Star year. If Beltran doesn’t get in, maybe Hunter Pence does. But Carlos was elected in, and assumedly, Mets fans are the ones who unfairly had him win this popularity contests.

Here’s two more words: David Wright. He’s having a solid year, but it’s not as good as Miguel Cabrera’s. And it’s not as good as Chipper Jones’. Jones isn’t an All-Star, but should be; and would have been, if this weren’t an unfair popularity contest. But, hey, what can you do?

The Mets don’t truly have four All-Stars. They have three: Reyes, Wagner, and Maine. When push comes to shove, it’d be hard, if not impossible, for Tony LaRussa to justify having five Mets go to San Fran.

And let’s face it, that is going to be a factor. If Chipper Jones takes David Wright’s spot, maybe LaRussa passes over Smoltz (9 wins, 96 strikeouts, 3.07 ERA, 1.230 WHIP) for Maine (10, 93, 2.71, 1.140). If Pence goes instead of Beltran, maybe Maine makes the “30th Man” ballot over Oswalt (8, 94, 3.53, 1.378). Who knows. Who cares?

As Mets fans, we shouldn’t point fingers at anyone but ourselves for making the All-Star game about popularity over merit.


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JuTMSY4Legend
875 days ago
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Yep, thanks DNL...you got that right...if mets fans are angry about maine not being there then they need to understand that you would need to rid the team of some mets who don't deserve it...

It is a popularity contest when it comes to position players...Beltran and Wright don't deserve to be there as much as maine does...

Still, he's no cole hamels...heh
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JuTMSY4Legend
875 days ago
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Although, i still think most of the next 10 ASGs will most likely feature a Phillies right side and a mets left...which i think is awesome...
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Baltimoresports247All-American
874 days ago
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Ha...Justin I love the home town bias...I feel the same way about Jeremy Guthrie...you know how it is :-D
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
875 days ago
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You know what? Forget the all-star game. I'm glad he's not there. I'm glad he's getting a rest. The all-star game is stupid, and everytime a player skips it, he's doing the right thing by his hometown fans. The all-star game used to be necessary when it was hard to see other teams' players. Now every freaking game and highlight is on. Maine deserves a break more than extra work.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
875 days ago
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Maine has only allowed more than 3 runs in a game twice in 17 starts. He has improved his control walking 17 in 5 starts in May but walked only 4 in 6 starts in June.He also fields his position well making only one error in 4 years but he needs to work on his hitting with only 4 hits in 59 times at bat for an .068 average. DL...you made an excellent case for Maine to be on All Star team.
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Cobras36Red-Shirting
875 days ago
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If the rest of his team manages to get their act together, he may well get something a bit more valuable at the end of the season.
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JuTMSY4Legend
875 days ago
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That's just wishful thinking...You think Maine struggled because of popularity to get a All-star invite, wait till the year end voting...Its Either Peavy or Penny...and Cole Hamels will win a cole hamels...
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
875 days ago
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I assumed he meant a trophy, more than an award.
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JuTMSY4Legend
875 days ago
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same answer as above...replace Peavy with the initials "AL" and Penny with Dodgers, Brewers, Padres or...screw it, phillies...
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Gmaddux04Waterboy
875 days ago
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There is a certain pageantry in the All Star Game that cannot be touched. For the "fans" its more appropriate they see Bonds, Beltran, and Griffey in that outfield. You have to keep on remembering, MLB All Star game, much like a league's MVP, does not denote the best talent. John Maine was an emerging phenom last year, and this year has continued to bathe in success. Let him earn his ticket and snowball his career later on when people know and are talking about John Maine.
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
875 days ago
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Isn't it also a little strange that the Mets had an annoying front-court press to get LoDuca on the all-star team, but not a mention of John Maine. I was at the Mets game and in between every half inning they had some announcement to stuff the ballot with votes for LoDuca who is in no way an all-star. Yet, there was no mention of Maine at any point.
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JuTMSY4Legend
875 days ago
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Well...fans couldn't have voted Maine in...so really the bone to pick is w/ LaRussa...
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JuTMSY4Legend
875 days ago
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Which reminds me...how do the final 5 get chosen?
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
875 days ago
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I understand that the fans don't vote on pitchers. However, you create buzz about your players. You lobby for it to happen.
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JuTMSY4Legend
875 days ago
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By saying what..."Hey mets fans, cheer if you think John Maine Should be at the all-star game" "yeaaaahhhhh...I miss anna Benson!!!"
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Kwitt11Varsity Captain
875 days ago
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I think MLB chooses the final five players, but I'm not sure. That's just what I read somewhere.
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
875 days ago
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The point is that with the LoDuca stunt you got attention to the Paul LoDuca for All-Star campaign. The Mets should have been promoting Maine more.
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JuTMSY4Legend
875 days ago
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But they promoted Lo Duca because the fans could vote him in...even if shea loud speakers bantered on about maine, no one would notice because it has 0 impact on the rest of the country... Its not the same thing at all...
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