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Is punter the "dweeb" position in football?

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by Joliecat

Hello again,

A little over ten years ago, when I lived in Florida and used to go to a "meet market" bar for entertainment, I met a guy I instantly knew was an athlete. It was a combination of thngs: yes, he was big, way over six feet with shoulders a yard wide and a perfect "V" shape but he also had active eyes, perfect ESPN grooming and he radiated quiet, strong jawed, self assuredness.

Well he asked me to slow dance and I got to put my hands and wrists on those well toned ovals of shoulder and bicep muscle and I asked him "Are you an athlete?" He shrugged good naturedly and said "I was." Looking up at him (remember, I'm close to six feet) I said "Football?" He nodded and said "Yup, I was a tight end."

After being with him for an hour or so I found out his name, the team he played for, and when he played for them. This was in 1996, long before google and ubiquitous cell phones and laptops. The next Monday at work I bragged to the other women about having met him and one of them said "Are you sure he was a football player? It might have been a line." And I told them his name and what team he played on. One of my friends said, "I know this girl's husband who knows everything about every NFL team and player going back to the '70's. I'll ask him."

The next day she came back and said yes, he was an NFL player and yes he did play on the team he said he was on but that he was the punter slash tight end.

Why would he sort of lie and say he was the tight end? Punter is one of the less-cool positions on the team, maybe. They never get to score and rarely get to tackle (if they do it means they screwed up anyway) but in my view punter is an important position and something for this guy to be proud of. For a three year period this guy was doing a job that only about thirty other guys in the whole world could do. Plus it takes strength, energy and mental toughness to kick a ball forty to sixty yards when eleven guys are charging like they want to rip your head off.

Good punters help their team tremendously by hemming the other team deep on its side of the field. Sometimes they even play quarterback, during fake punt tries. If the center messes up and sails the ball high over their head, they have to ad lib really quickly to avert disaster. A Tampa Bay punter I once saw was going to try to punt from the ten yard line or so. The center snapped the ball high in the air over his head and he quickly ran back, fielded the ball and raced the ball through the end zone. I said "huh?" but doing this kept the damage to two points instead of seven and he got to kick the ball from the 20 on the next play. Much easier.

At least one quarterback was also the punter, Danny White of the Dallas Cowboys. He said that he would take out his frustrations on stalled drives by slamming hard on the football during the punt. Boomer Esiason also punted a few times for Bengals when their punter got run over on a play. Once, a punter for the New York Jets set a strange record. He had no punts at all in a playoff game where the Jets murdered the Bengals 44-17.

So punter, while it's much less glamorous than quarterback, running back, or linebacker is still an important position. And the guy in the bar was HOT whether he was a punter, a cop, a plumber, or an insurance salesman.


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Oh No RomoDraft Pick
741 days ago
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Oh No RomoDraft Pick
741 days ago
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I think Sean made the best point about punters
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TehLokiVarsity Captain
741 days ago
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"Sometimes they even play quarterback, during fake punt tries." Tom Tupa says he loves you.
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JuTMSY4Legend
741 days ago
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i guess if making 500 grand for about 100 snaps a year is being a dweeb, then yes...
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
741 days ago
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Brad Maynard might be the Bears MVP for the season. Okay, okay that ain't saying much....
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False ProphetAll-Star
741 days ago
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The best position is Kicker. You rarely get hit, get paid a decent amount, and if your good, everyone will love you. It's not the most glorious position, but in terms of having a life/job post-NFL, Kicker's the way to go
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
741 days ago
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Unless your last name is Norwood.
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False ProphetAll-Star
741 days ago
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lol....true. That guy probably can't go into a bar without being recognized and then insulted
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Steel TownDraft Pick
741 days ago
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Personally, I would take third string QB over anything. Hold a clip board and you probably never have to play. Plus if you do play, no one expects you to perform well.
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JuTMSY4Legend
741 days ago
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that is until practice...where you have to simulate players, know the playbook and get hit...a lot... Body bag game, anyone?
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
741 days ago
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Eh its rare that it goes down to a thirdstringer even in practice.
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AJNeal52JV Squad
741 days ago
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No way! Punter isn't a dweeb position. They can kick a ball over 180 feet thats insane
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
741 days ago
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I think it's still amazing that punter and kicker are two separate positions. It's a great way to save cap room in Madden (i.e. get a 99 K but a 27 P or something, and just let the kicker punt).
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JuTMSY4Legend
741 days ago
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madden isn't real life...you can't make ridiculous trades to acquire players... Its significantly different styles...and in the NFL mistakes are magnified so much. You really can't afford a lot of shanked punts or FGs...especially the points...its easier just to pay 2 guys around 1.5-2 mil total for it...
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JuTMSY4Legend
741 days ago
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plus, in the NFL, its roster spots taht are more valuable than cap room
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
741 days ago
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It happens in rugby, when sometime people are better with a set kick than they are with a punt. Thats why a flyhalf isnt always the one responsible for finding touch, or kicking for point.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
741 days ago
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But my point is that so many are. Jonny Wilkinson, Olly Barkley, Charlie Hodgson for England. Percy Montgomery in his day for SA was equally good as a Punter and a kicker. Matt Burke for Australia. Damien Traille and Francois Steyn are both equally adept (although I suppose they are more punters). Diego Dominguez was stellar at both going back a few years, as was Neil Jenkins. Lacroix going back even further for France. Andrew Mehtrens could do both equally. Sure, it might not be the flyhalf, but generally, the person with the best punt is also the kicker, only Traille and Steyn seem to be specialist punters (maybe Henson, but even he kicks for his club). Also JuT, the skill set for K and P are similar. Kicking in a straight line. It's like SS and CB are almost similar but not quite. Or how DT and DE are similar. Or OLB and ILB. You can play both positions with similar success. G and T is another example.
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
741 days ago
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I gurantee that every punter in the NFL can kick in a pinch and viceversa, but they are not as good at one or the other.

Kicking fg's and punting are two totally different motions. Punters work off a 1 or 2 step movement, while kickers take 5-7. In addition kickers use a soccer style from the side.

Punters are also expected to be more precent on punt coverage than a kicker is.
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DNLLegend
741 days ago
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I realize that I invoke the requisite Michael Vick joke here, but, what about QBs who punt on 3rd and long or 4th and, say, 4? You know, a "pooch punt"? Is that wussy?
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
741 days ago
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aughh.... that was painful
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DNLLegend
741 days ago
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Oh, and, I think the answer to your question is "yes." But it's not the dweebiest position in all sports -- that would be LOOGY. A LOOGY's job is to come in and get one out, and unless he royally screws up, no one cares. Plus, they're so freakin' rare that they can always find a well paying job. Randy Myers, then the Mets closer, used to come to games in the 3rd or 4th inning, work out, and then make it to the bullpen by the 7th or so. That's how great it is to be a reliever. Being a LOOGY is that much more dweeby.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
741 days ago
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Ugggh. Mike Myers...
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ChachiOSUDraft Pick
741 days ago
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According to The Almighty Sweater Vest the punt is the most important play in football.
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EroosterMajor Leaguer
741 days ago
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In the CFL, the punter is a key player and often can score a point.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
741 days ago
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Darren Bennett was NOT a dweeb, but he was the equivalent of Hulk Hogan working for an accounting firm.

And one other guy - I would let Ray Guy hang out with me...

Randall Cunningham is the best punting QB ever (if you only count his one punt at Giants Stadium on a windy day - he also punted at UNLV)
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KelsdadAll-Star
741 days ago
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Not in New England, the dweeb on that team is the quarterback.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
741 days ago
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and they even had a punter on 'roids - Todd Sauerbrun.
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