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Introducing ArmchairGM Showdowns

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We noticed that the discussions for articles frequently turn into a one-on-one battle. So, we decided to create Showdowns. Think of a showdown as Old West meets sports knowledge. A topic is chosen beforehand, and the debaters will only be allowed to comment. The rest of the users will vote for the comments -- but don't worry, only "plus" comment voting is allowed for showdowns. The comment scorecard will keep track of the winner -- after a period of time chosen by the contestants, the rest of the community determines who is the winner and who is the loser!

We think the possibilies are endless. However, we want to avoid any possible pitfalls, what rules should govern Showdowns? Discuss below to help make this a great new feature for the site.

Anyone have any challenges to throw out to other users? Let the debates begin!

Click here to create a showdown.

Date

Mon 06/26/06, 6:24 am EST


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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
1261 days ago
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Terrific idea. Is the voting criteria who articulates better or who we agree with?
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PeanMajor Leaguer
1261 days ago
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that is going to be tough to really enforce...itll be up to the voter to decide i guess
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PeanMajor Leaguer
1261 days ago
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i would like to see Xinoph vs. ASwaff -- they have good arguments
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JuTMSY4Legend
1261 days ago
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"Two men will enter, one man will leave!"
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
1261 days ago
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I think this is a great idea, and will be a lot of fun. We are just going to have to work hard to enforce voting rules, and put a lot of faith into the voters.
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Patrickburke1980All-American
1261 days ago
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Whoever gets the most postive comments wins! I love it.
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Patrickburke1980All-American
1261 days ago
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the ozzie guillen argument would be a good one. I call out Christof.
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PeanMajor Leaguer
1261 days ago
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do we have our first showdown??
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1261 days ago
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You should do. I just created one but can't see it...
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PeanMajor Leaguer
1261 days ago
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alex, i added the new category to the front page, so it should now appear
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1261 days ago
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Thanks (I need to do that to the England page...)
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Patrickburke1980All-American
1261 days ago
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how will this be structured? I am out of the office a lot, so it's not as though I have constant access to armchair.
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PeanMajor Leaguer
1261 days ago
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here is a rough example: <a href=http://www.a..._Test_Debate>test</a>

basically only me and DNL would see the form to add a comment, and everyone will just vote for comments...i would imagine the contenstants would determine how long they want voting to be open for...obviously we would want to have some rules in place...like you can't just keep posting comments, because then you would have an unfair advantage because you will possibly get a higher score
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DNLLegend
1261 days ago
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Also, if you see something somewhere other than ArmchairGM (like in a blog or elsewhere) that you disagree with, you can challenge people there to an ArmchairGM Showdown.
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JuTMSY4Legend
1261 days ago
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That is a very good idea
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JuTMSY4Legend
1261 days ago
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The only thing i don't like is that these showdowns could create a lot of enemies...For example, I know I have gotten into heated debates and they could have turned ugly, with the voting we're in trouble and also, Its difficult to keeping the voting straight. I know, I'm a phils fan so I never give the mets their just due, and i take a lot of crap for that, but isn't it the argument not the answer
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1261 days ago
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The voting's been sorted. Think about it - if you are arguing and cannot be given -s, your score is only going to go up.
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SteaksammichRed-Shirting
1261 days ago
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I'm guessing there are already plenty of enemies on here. I know there are 2 or 3 people who post here a lot who I just have no respect for and don't think very highly of.
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JuTMSY4Legend
1261 days ago
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< hides under a rock
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JuTMSY4Legend
1261 days ago
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And what if you don't wanna do it...its like an insult to your man/womanhood... dude, its totally like the old west...haha
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Patrickburke1980All-American
1261 days ago
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This should be fun.
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Patrickburke1980All-American
1261 days ago
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"The only thing i don't like is that these showdowns could create a lot of enemies."

That's what sports is all about. Bring on the rivalries!
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PeanMajor Leaguer
1261 days ago
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there can even be teams...2 on 2 etc...you can put it on your resume: AGM Debate Team
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1261 days ago
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I wanted that idea for the one I made... Jemma is one my side, and I imagine the other two would be against us.
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PeanMajor Leaguer
1261 days ago
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thats cool...the only problem is that the scorecard will not yet be able to group the totals for your team.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1261 days ago
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Ok, but don't be surprised if we keep voting each other up...
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PeanMajor Leaguer
1261 days ago
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hmmm, good point
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1261 days ago
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Not for the sake of it, it's because we are obviously going to agree with each other.
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ASwaffAll-American
1261 days ago
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I agree! Rivalries are good for sports. Why can't they be good for Armchair? But, keep in mind, rivalries get tedious and abnoxious when they get ugly.
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
1261 days ago
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This is going to be great... bring it on Im ready for all newcomers.
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Patrickburke1980All-American
1261 days ago
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Alex...you shouldn't be voting for each other. What's the point? Outsiders determine who wins, not the (master)debaters themselves.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1261 days ago
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True... But I suppose we would vote for each other because I will (usually) agree with the comment. Not because I am on his side.
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EnyboDiv-I Stud
1261 days ago
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The only rule I would liek enofrced, in regards to JuT, keep all rebuttals strictly related to the debate, no personal attacks. Create rivalries, not enemies.
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JuTMSY4Legend
1261 days ago
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Good point
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1261 days ago
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One thing I think that would improve it, is a section on the right for them all. Like the Game Recaps. If a debate drags on for a couple of days, it could get lost behind the new POs.
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UfgatorsDiv-I Stud
1261 days ago
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Love the idea, I'll take on anyone, but what if someone challenges you in a sport you're not too well versed in? Then it looks like you're backing down if you decline, or, if you accept, you'll make a fool out of yourself!
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PeanMajor Leaguer
1261 days ago
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maybe you can have fan tags that say "MLB Debater, NFL debater" etc, so you can announce what your willing to talk about
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PeanMajor Leaguer
1261 days ago
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or as pat said...(master) debater
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RoblefkoLegend
1261 days ago
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or master (de)bater
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EnyboDiv-I Stud
1261 days ago
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Postpone the debate for a later date, do some research on the topic to bring yourself up to speed and then have a go at it. Afterall, isn't that why we come to sites like this, to learn something about sports we didn't know previously?
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ChachiOSUDraft Pick
1261 days ago
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Great idea. Hopefully the implementation can go as planned.
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JuTMSY4Legend
1261 days ago
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Hey, just a thought. But could you add "-" scores to the showdown and make them count towards the final scoring but not towards the person's +/- score? Sometimes I think a person deserves a - for a comment...Perhaps the scoring could be a little different?
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Bobbyjim45Draft Pick
1260 days ago
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We should make a whole separate column in the top users for how well the person does in showdowns...
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