In the WNBA, Dissing It Means Missing It...

and it's not about supporting lesbian agendas. The assumption that it is a lesbian league is preposterously ignorant. You are such a nimrod sometimes. David Stern is merely "catering" to over HALF the world's population. How many WNBA fans AREN'T NBA fans??

The WNBA is still in it's infancy. Where was the NFL or NBA after 11 years?

I'm sure your mother is proud of your phallocentricities...

Have you ever been to a game?

Prove

The WNBA loses money every year. This league has next to no appeal to any significant larger mass market and will only resurface in another Penny Marshall sports film once mercifully put down by the investors tired of watching their money get pissed away. Perhaps Hanks will be available again to play the all knowing drunk coach. And keep comments about my mother off this forum. Aren't you dead yet?

Because all that matters is how much money they make... nice to see where your values lie.

Yeah, just wait and see what "values" are left for the suckers financing this dead weight of a project once the network gets out from underneath having to broadcast WNBA games.

That's the dumbest statement ever. "Most dunkers aren't good all round players". 'Everyone in the NBA is a dunker! But being more specific, you're right. Jordan and Dr. J. and Amare' and LeBron weren't good all-round players.

No, they are great players regardless... I'm talking about the general baller population! What's Baby Jordan doing nowadays? How about Darvin Ham? Where's Shawn Kemp? BRENT BARRY won a dunk contest! Or since you think dunking IS important, Shaq must be the best player EVER (he's the all-time dunk leader! Where's HIS parade?) Larry Bird and Magic Johnson were pretty thunderous dunkers!

And I can make WAAAAY stupider comments than that and you know it!!!

Relish that retardness hero.

but ^^^this guy^^^ is the Champ!

You are not going to any WNBA game. You will be sitting in your basement blogging endlessly about "serious" sports matters such as your dumb username, dunking (donuts into coffee instead of basketballs) and jars of vaseline.

Hey, I've been to PLENTY of WNBA games. Playoff games, Finals games and yes, even the championship rally!!! (with videos I haven't had time to collage and post - oops!)

LOL Manny! - We argued about this almost 150 days ago....

Man, those were the days, Tyrone - our little "episode" unneccessarily cramped my early summer, dude. But everything I said either happened or is going to. People think I'm just "funny" or "weird"... wait 'til they find out my "true" talents...

Yes indeed. Don't forget about recording that epic hip hop album dedicated to Jay Mariotti.... :)

You figure out a way to pay me and I'll give you 20 or more songs to choose from. Find a distributor and hire a marketing team. I even have two pretty funky/versatile studio bands I can use (The Big Dream Band and "Joy G & the Joytix feat. John Funk").

You really need to talk with BigBadBill. He is president of a recording company!

Yeah a supporter of a Sport - because I'm intelligent? open-minded? Because I love the game of basketball? think athletic women are beautiful in more than just sexual ways? Because my wife is a better player and more complete than me (and I'm better than you)? Because my daughter might want to have the opportunity to play professionally someday? Because the MJ of the Women's game probably hasn't been born yet? Because I am not afraid of 6'6" women? Because I don't feel worse when women I don't personally know get the chance to do better?

Because the game IS doing well in several markets...

Yeah, it could be all of those things... Oh, and I don't care if someone on a basketball court is a lesbian or not... I would think a guy like you would want MORE lesbians on the court?

Oh, and am I some kind of "sissy" orr "fag" or whatever you're gonna call me just because I like sports regardless of who plays them? Or am I that for cheering for girls? I am BIG fan of girls, sorry you're not!

You are far too lazy and unmotivated to even bother playing basketball against anyone including women. And you hardly "better" than me at anything. Keep up the hate, hater.

YOU called ME a hater? Right after you crack on me for supporting the WNBA and then called me "too lazy and unmotivated" - nice to see you include "women" under the category of "everyone" - and you came into this article SPECIFICALLY to bash women and the WNBA... and now me, good one, Freud. Do you own a mirror?

I didn't bash women. I bashed the WBNA as a financial failure. And yeah - this league only survives due to political correctness. On the ledger, it deserves a fate no less than NFL Europe. And if the WNBA has a target audience such as YOU, it is no wonder why it has failed to support itself.

The parallel to NFL Europe is not a good one. NFL Europe was a developmental league, an investment for the NFL. Part of the reason they shut it down was because it wasn't developing anyone anymore. Closing NFL Europe is like getting rid of AAA Baseball.

What you say is true but don't kid yourself - the NFL wanted to rid itself from a $30 million annual loss. How much longer do you really expect the NBA to absorb the losses to float the WNBA? Especially after those ABC/ESPN deals expire?

If the NFL started a women's football league together would you go see it? I probably would. But I'm also trying to get "press" coverage for a Roller Derby event soon...

Well that depends...

That might be part of your problem....

Extremely different rules are not a good idea - it is far too gimmicky to be successful in the long run. Some might say having women playing basketball is far too gimmicky, but a half court 3 on 3 game is a surefire failure.

There is no saving this league. It would already be dead if it had to finance and support itself.

DNL, you need to see a sports psychiatrist.you should be banned from this board. are you kidding me? florida would demolish the wnba. they would have a hard time even getting a good shot off. it would be like volleyball around the offensive glass final score florida 150 wnba 20

Ban one of the founders... Gee, I think we have a new President of Dipshititude.

Hey Manny - maybe you and I ought to co-write a "Ban Dan Lewis" article!

And nominate False Prophet to replace him too!!

Uhhhh.... Hmmmm..... Ehhh....

You couldn't do shit. You are a fool. But it's you're lucky day!

First off, you're a clueless numbnuts. Second, you're old. Third, you're ONLY 6'2", dipshit. But most importantly you have NO IDEA what you're talking about.

If you had real sports knowledge to express you would sign up. ArmchairUP!

I said half, not all. Bring on anyone under six foot and I would post up and score at will. They could not stop my jump hook, period! And you couldn't either. Men are just superior athletes. Six foot five girls can barely dunk. If at all. Puff dunkers.

I personally would destroy you, don't get it twisted - you ain't backing me down and/or jump hooking over me - I'm 6'6" and 270 lbs. I won't even swat 'em away - I'll just catch your shots instead.

Secondly - I'll take Cappie Pondexter (under 6 feet) over you on the blocks AND breaking your ankles... She wouldn't even have to D you up, because you'd turn it over and you'd miss half your shots (or worse) - and psst! YOU ain't stopping her. AT ALL.

I love it when schmucks think they have to bash women to make themselves feel like men. I'll bet my house that my wife would beat you soundly - all day - e'ry day

Can you videotape that contest for us?

270 sounds really fat. I'm not your average 50 year old. If your 270 your wife is probably around 220. You got no game. Give it up.

you know,270 REALLY sounds SLOW, i mean unless your charles barkley and i'm sure your not. it would be easy to back down most of the girls in the wnba i watch a game every now and then. those girls CAN NOT JUMP my man 50 at 6-2 could probably back most of them down. myself i would just dunk on them

Sounds slow but is not. I will definitely dunk on you. I GUARANTEE you that I can outrun Charles. We can race too. Hell, I'll race ANYONE that is 250 or more and let's see how slow I am... At 6'6" 270, I still run a 4.6 40 yd.

Oh, if you want actual footage of me being "fat" or pretending (for the sheer humor of it) to not be athletic, hit up google...

Let me remind you of an old adage - there's always someone out there that's better than you, waiting to show you how much you suck. Here I am waiting.

Again, your knowledge of the game of basketball is glaringly deficient. Basketball is about positioning and angles, not athleticism. If it was about being more athletic or dunking on people then Magic Johnson and Larry Bird would have never played the game.

A dunk is 2 points. No more, no less... And a dunk isn't going to happen if you can't get positioning.

BTW - the BEST boxing out gets the BEST positioning on the court - it requires a LOWER center of gravity - like a woman's.

Battling an anon? Is this a new version of American Gladiators?

Schmoes vs Pros -

I've been to WNBA games and I thoroughly enjoyed them. I CAN'T stand it when dumbfacks yap about how they are so good they could beat a WNBA player in basketball. These are usually schmucks who never wore a uni or stepped on a court.

If the WNBA sucks so much, why hasn't ONE single pro athlete I ever talked with say anything bad about it? Every person I ask has said, "yeah they're good".

If Pro Male Athletes can respect their game, why can't regular stupid people like these schmucks give them respect?

Men in general need to wake up and realize that their egos are stronger than their abilities. Face reality, it hurts less than than having reality face it for you. Jennie Finch struck out MLB players 30 years after Billy Jean King won her Battle of the Sexes. But people to dumb to sign up and log in are better basketball players than Diana Taurasi? Uhhhh, What?

AF, you should listen to Manny, he knows what he's talking about.

Manny's right...the WNBA players are the best in the world at what they do..play women's basketball. However, a bad Division III team would smoke the best WNBA team. No contest.

Bobby Riggs accepts the challenge!

Who ever is arguing with manny. I'm 6'0" 235. I would scor eon you at will in basketball because I hve more power than you. I'd drive the lane and lay it in. or hit something mid range. You're a talentless moron hiding behind a proxy. Go file for Social Security or something.

I just don't find it terribly entertaining...I also don't find the NBA entertaining...so there ya go...

I try to embrace as many women as I can at the same time- I'm with yeah Manny-- love em don't hate em- even the nappy headed ones

Women's basketball would be a lot cooler if while taking each shot they made a scream like shrill like in tennis- that turns me on

And Diana Taurasi is bad as shit!@!! She would beat 99+% of the men in the World at basketball. Cappie Pondexter, Lauren Jackson, Sue Bird... they would murder all y'all.

Hell, my wife (a.k.a. Alice Iverson) beats me soundly and routinely and I would crush 98+% percent of the scrubs that ever browsed this site.

Just like Pro Tennis players would crush you, like pro women's golfers, billiards players, ping-pong players (Go Bilba!) curlers, bowlers, hockey players would CRUSH you.

Get over yourselves. Cherishing the truth of reality feels better than defending self-delusion.

I love it when women beat me-- love it

Exactly, Jut. Taht's fine - it's why I don't watch many football games anymore - the product is deteriorated.

But as far as seeing them in person, the WNBA is $ for $ far and away the best. I saw a FINALS game and got drunk and sat near the suns cheerleaders (who were fans in "street" clothes) and I didn't spend $40. You can't beat it.

And if you like seeing thousands of babes at the same place and same time (and have the power to look right through a granny dyke) - go to a WNBA game.

And I disagree. I've seen Sue Bird go on a 7-7 3's hot streak for a quarter and a half. I've watched Diana Taurasi launch and make WAY too many (beyond the NBA line) 3 pointers. I've seen Cappie Pondexter bust everyone's ankles on one play then muscle in points like she was a fundamental spawn of Allen Iverson and Charles Barkley and TAKE OVER the game.

They are VERY entertaining. And think about one more thing: What do you think a stadium full of Women and girls screaming sounds like?

But the Shock won the game, so that kinda sucked.

Arrghh! And the WNBA is 11 years old. What was the NBA like in it's 11th year? WNBA hasn't had it's Wilt yet. It hasn't had it's MJ yet... It hasn't had it's Pookie Stiles yet!!!

WHAT? basketball not about athleticism. WOW, with that statement you said it all. you to need a trip to the sports psychiatrist

Skill beats athleticism more times than not. If it was all about athleticism, the AND1 all-stars would win the O'Brien every year... and Stephon Marbury would be a perennial winner.

just watched a video of diana taurasi can she touch the rim?

Diana Taurasi has dunked in practice. And who cares when she can nail threes all day and pass like Magic Johnson? I'm pretty sure you'd brick a donut trying to dunk it.

I dunked in practice too, and I'm 5'10"

oh yeah? How many college and World Championships have you won, KD?

Same as you, brother.

yeah but I dunk in games, not just practice.

I dunked in games too, but the conversation was about practice.

I STILL dunk in games... Granted, the games aren't every day or against the best talent. But two points is still JUST two points. I've seen her play too many times (although once is enough to figure it out) - Diana Taurasi is better than both of us.

If I ever see her at a UConn alumni event, I'll be sure to say hi for you.

You're 6'7" dude, I'd be worried when you can't dunk anymore.

My basketball career ended my junior year of high school. Not much room in the game for short white guys.

Oh, she knows me when she sees me. Not as well as Penny Taylor or Tangela Smith - who can't seem to keep their eyes off me. I do kinda stand out in the crowd at WNBA events - even without my bag of "fan theatrics"!

Hey Behbigben15 or is that UK fan. Manny said it wasn't about athleticism. you onboard with that? You said he knew what he was talking about.

Sign up if you want to continue this. Hiding behind an Anonymous User and taking my words out of context is not going to win you favors.

I said "more times than not Skill beats athleticism". The guys in the NBA aren't any more athletic than many of the ballers at the parks and gyms. There are great athletes all over the world NOT playing NBA ball. NBA ballers understand, know and play the game better.

Or do you think the Fred Hoibergs, Sam Cassells and Jason Kaponos of the world are Athletic? I think it's safe to say they are more "skilled".

And so you know I HAVE played ball with several guys in the NBA. You'll NEVER convince me that I'm not more athletic than Rick Brunson, but he spent nearly a decade in the NBA while I sat at home and watched him, reminiscing how I got a cheezy rebound dunk over him.

Practice? We're talkin' 'bout practice!

TehLoco, can you jump? If not, you can't stop me. By the way, when's McNabb going to Chicago?

ArmchairUP! It's so easy, even a Yankees fan can do it!

Yeah, I must be some non-athlete... and you must be up for an award in sheer geniusness.

Oh, I'm a total non-athlete. How'd this article come back from the dead?

It's a touchy subject - I like crushing egos of ignorance AND defending the lady ballers!