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How Does Everyone Know Hank Aaron Was Clean?

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by Notthatgood4

It has become fashionable to say a player "played the right way." In today's context, this usually means that he did not use performance enhancing drugs.

In the wake of Barry Bonds' breaking the home run record, many are quick to denounce the record as a fraud and claim Henry "Hank" Aaron is still the home run king because he did not use steroids. But how is everyone absolutely sure?

I'm not saying Aaron used performance enhancing drugs, in fact I highly doubt he did, but why is the public so naive to believe it is not a possibility?

Baseball did not test for drugs then, as it did not when Bonds was accused of using them. Just as there is no absolute proof that Bonds intentionally used performance enhancing drugs, there is no absolute evidence Aaron did not.

Cal Ripken Jr. and Tony Gwynn were applauded upon their entry into the Hall of Fame for what else but "playing the game the right way." Again, how do we know they played the game the right way? Because they were nice guys?

Ripken's record for consecutive games played is widely commended as a sign of his superb dedication. How do we know that he did not use some sort of drug or product to aid the streak? In professional sports, injuries are natural. For a player to go years without missing a single game is not natural. Perhaps he was just highly fortunate; perhaps he used something extra to help him recover quickly.

As for Gwynn, he is also commended for "playing the game the right way." What does this mean? Since he was too lazy to get in shape it's a sign of his integrity? Again, how is the public absolutely certain he did not use something to aid his performance in lieu of exercise?

Now I'm not accusing either of these players of violating the rules, but the public is naive to ignore the possibility. What does it come down to? That these men are supposedly nice guys, a persona that could easily be manufactured to cover up darker intentions? If Barry Bonds were a nice guy, would he be given the benefit of the doubt? Probably.

If the public should have learned a lesson by now, it is that you cannot assume that human nature is flawless.


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ChristofMVP
869 days ago
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Oh please, steroids did not become big time until the 70's. By then, Hank's career was finish. This is like saying the Babe may not have been clean. This is uncalled for.
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Notthatgood4Waterboy
869 days ago
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How do you know?
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Silencer76AAA-er
869 days ago
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I agree with Christof. If you had some sort of credible evidence to back up the statement, then maybe it would be taken seriously. This sounds like sour grapes from a guy who probably worships Barry Bonds the way a fat guy worships the buffet.
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Notthatgood4Waterboy
869 days ago
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Babe may not have been clean... give me evidence to the contrary.
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RomiezzoLegend
869 days ago
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NEWSFLASH: Cigars are streroids...
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
869 days ago
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Because Hank Aaron at the end of his career looked like Barry Bonds at the beginning of his.
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RomiezzoLegend
869 days ago
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Perfect answer...
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Kwitt11Varsity Captain
868 days ago
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How does that prove anything? I keep bringing this up...the first player busted for roids was Alex Sanchez, who was 5'10", 180 lbs. Using steroids does not necessarily mean you grow a ton.
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Brendan.CanneyDiv-I Stud
868 days ago
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It matters because Sanchez was caught and wasn't going to do it again. (can't say the same thing for Neifi Perez) Also, Sanchez didn't take roids that were chemically engineered by scientists who sole purpose was to develop the best and least detectable steroid ever.
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Silencer76AAA-er
869 days ago
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Did you ever SEE the man? He was notorious for downing half a dozen hot dogs between games of a doubleheader and drinking more beer than Homer Simpson and Peter Griffin combined. Performance enhancing substances were not invented in the time between World War I and the Great Depression. I think people had more important things to do.
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Notthatgood4Waterboy
869 days ago
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Let me get this straight: Babe Ruth should be commended because he performed despite behavior that obviously hindered his performance? If that's the case then why doesn't Bonds just play blindfolded?
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Notthatgood4Waterboy
869 days ago
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Why's drinking beer more moral than taking steroids?
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RomiezzoLegend
869 days ago
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Cuz BABE RUTH drank beer..
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Silencer76AAA-er
869 days ago
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Show me how being drunk allows you to gain bat speed, improve hand eye coordination, and turn your head into the size of a Buick.
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
869 days ago
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It's not the drinking that's immoral. It's the stuff you do after you've had a few too many that is.
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MegECass110AAA-er
868 days ago
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Umm, because drinking beer is legal.
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RomiezzoLegend
868 days ago
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Like...DUH!!
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JuTMSY4Legend
868 days ago
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have you ever had a beer?
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EnyboDiv-I Stud
868 days ago
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David Wells threw a no hitter while hung over. So maybe beer is performance enhancing.
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JuTMSY4Legend
868 days ago
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heard a story about a pitcher throwing a no hitter the day after he dropped acid...not sure if its true...
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JuTMSY4Legend
868 days ago
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Of course...his buddy may have responded with "dude, you don't even play baseball"
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Notthatgood4Waterboy
869 days ago
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Of course I don't have any evidence because it likely isn't true, but to be so dismissive is naive. How do you know Babe Ruth didn't bet on games?
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ChristofMVP
869 days ago
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Are you Barry Bond's child or something?
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Silencer76AAA-er
869 days ago
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So tell me, did you smoke half a pound of crack before you decided to log on? What's next, Bob Gibson, Sandy Koufax, Don Drysdale and Nolan Ryan all paid off hitters to strike out?
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RomiezzoLegend
869 days ago
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To Christof: Lawyer..
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Notthatgood4Waterboy
869 days ago
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I don't like Barry Bonds even. Thought I'd stir the pot up a bit... Your reactions are exactly what I expected.
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ChristofMVP
869 days ago
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When you throw some red meat at a bunch of hungry and angry wolves, what do you expect? Bonds has made a mockery of the baseball record book. Without the record sport, baseball is truly a boring sport.
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RomiezzoLegend
869 days ago
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Well, think of it this way Christof. We can celebrate immensely over every single Barry Bonds record that any player breaks.
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Notthatgood4Waterboy
869 days ago
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Looks like you solved the mystery Christof, baseball is boring, let's not care anymore... It's easier that way.
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RomiezzoLegend
869 days ago
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Well, at least it's not "poker boring".
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Notthatgood4Waterboy
869 days ago
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Let me get this straight: Babe Ruth should be commended because he performed despite behavior that obviously hindered his performance? If that's the case then why doesn't Bonds just play blindfolded?
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Oh No RomoDraft Pick
869 days ago
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I should not have come in here if all I'm gonna hear about is Pineapple Pants and the record.
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WizardmanRed-Shirting
869 days ago
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Do we know Hank Aaron was clean? I would think he'd shower often, so yup.
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Oh No RomoDraft Pick
869 days ago
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That is the best answer I have heard all night
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RomiezzoLegend
868 days ago
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How do you know that he showered often?
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HappyskinnyAll-American
868 days ago
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I think Notthatgood4 has lost 1600 points in minuses here. What is the record?
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Cornfed78Draft Pick
868 days ago
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Bonds did steriods, Ruth drank, Cobb drank, Maris drank, and Aaron drank, all of them have probably been high. Ruth and Cobb probably gambled on games too, it was commonplace in those days. Bonds is an a$$ so was Cobb. Life goes on, baseball will as well. The HR record will stand til Arod, Pujols, or somebody else breaks it. What Bonds did was a performance enhancing drug, those other may have hindered or helped their performances but they were not doing something with the scientific engineering to improve their ability. Bonds did. Asterik or not, it sucks that Bonds broke the record.
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SashaDiv-I Stud
868 days ago
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Bonds and Cobb are to completely different "A$$'" since Bonds doesn't get along with the media and he might have (I'll go as far as to say probably) used performance enhancing drugs while Cobb was a racist and boosted of killing a man so please do not put Barry Bonds in the same class as Ty Cobb.
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HappyskinnyAll-American
868 days ago
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Cornfed, did you mean Mantle drank? I didn't think Maris got drunk alot like Mantle.
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Ea34Div-I Stud
868 days ago
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I think we can very safely state that Hank Aaron did NOT use steroids. I have, however, heard an awful lot about "greenies", which have been present in MLB clubhouses for decades. It's likely that Aaron was "up" for some games that he otherwise would not have been. With that said, I think emphetamine use in baseball has always been widespread enough that no one person can be singled out for it.
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Cornfed78Draft Pick
868 days ago
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I meant Maris, but yes Mantle drank as well.
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Dolph72Varsity Captain
868 days ago
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Well for one no one came out with a tell all book documenting the actions of Hank Aaron's steroid use. Hank Aaron never had a personal trainer sit in jail for 18 months for not talking to a grand jury about steroid use. Hank Aaron was never called to testify at a grand jury of a company that was making steroids. And I would have to say that its a pretty fair assessment that if someone did sell big Hank performance enhancers someone would have tried to make some $$$ on it. Maybe you should write it...
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JuTMSY4Legend
868 days ago
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Alright, I'll lay it down for you:

You're right, we don't know if Hank Aaron was clean, but we also have no evidence...of any kind to suggest otherwise...With Bonds, we've got some pretty damning evidence...

As far as ruth...well steroids of the type that may/may not make you a better hitter weren't discovered (or created?) until 1935...sooo...pretty sure Ruth didn't do that...

And if its beer that made him a better hit...well...how come every college student isn't babe ruth?
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AngeHammJV Squad
868 days ago
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"Thought I'd stir the pot up a bit... Your reactions are exactly what I expected."

You mean "Smart?" Our reactions were smart? Because your premise certainly isn't.

How do we know Vince Lombardi wasn't a communist spy? How do we know Michael Jordan wasn't a robot (as theorized by "3rd Rock from the Sun")? How do we know Babe Ruth wasn't gay? How can we know for SURE?

There ya go: Topics for three more pointless articles. Enjoy!
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JuTMSY4Legend
868 days ago
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From a reasoning perspective...oen could assess thank hank may have been on steroids, but realistically there is 0 evidence, its less likely because of the period of time and it might have had more to do with him being good
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DrpatriotAll-American
868 days ago
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You know, I was going to comment that it was an interesting point (though clearly not very likely), but wow you are all just tearing this guy apart...
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InsanMajor Leaguer
868 days ago
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Idiots that don't know what the hell their talking about tend to get torn apart, yes.
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InsanMajor Leaguer
868 days ago
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You should be banned from life for writing this article and making these comments.
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TyduffyRed-Shirting
868 days ago
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Under this line of logic, you can disprove your own existence. You can get it down to the point where you ask yourself if you know you exist. But do you know you exist? Really? Could you not be the figment of some other being's imagination? Perhaps it may have some merit as a philosophical exercise, but how productive is it for baseball?
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InsanMajor Leaguer
868 days ago
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Seriously, this is turning nito a philosophical debate. Did Hank Aaron really have cyber genetic arms? No? How do you know? Maybe he travelled to the future, got metallic arm implants, travelled back to his ages, and knocked the ball out of the park to pass Ruth.
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Ea34Div-I Stud
868 days ago
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Tyduffy, let's keep em above the belt. No need to bring Decartes into this. :)
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Ea34Div-I Stud
868 days ago
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By the way, the more we react and vote and comment on this type of article, the more people are encouraged to write them. Incidentally, keep an eye out for my new piece: Could youth soccer be the new frontier for Al Quaeda recruiting?
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OurmanflintSoccer Kid
868 days ago
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notthatgood,

Saying that Babe Ruth or Hank Aaron might not have been totally clean is completely ridiculous. First of all, the Babe is one of the most written-about and biographied people in US history. If there was ANY shred of evidence whatsoever that would taint his reputation AT ALL it would've been dug up in one of the (literally) hundreds of biographies of him. Second, look at Aaron's career. He never hit more than 50 homers in a year. His best season HR-wise (47) isn't in the top 40 HR seasons of all time, for ANY player. What set him apart was his longevity. He kept hitting around 40 taters for over 20 years. And look at the last three years of his career - he hit 20, 12, and 10 HRs, respectively. That's the natural finish to a career.

It all comes down to context - what players were doing relative to how other players were doing. If Aaron was on amphetamines for a few games, it sure didn't help him to hit the kind of Herculean HR numbers that juicers were getting in the late 90s and early 00s. The only sort of drug that Ruth took was alcohol, and plenty of it.
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Notthatgood4Waterboy
868 days ago
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Wow you guys are really taking this personally. I'm sure you are the same people chiding others for saying the NBA might be fixed.
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Notthatgood4Waterboy
868 days ago
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Did you guys even read the article or just the title?
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RomiezzoLegend
868 days ago
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Nope. *reads until the Cal Ripken/Tony Gwynn part* OK, I'm done...
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Notthatgood4Waterboy
868 days ago
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From the article itself: I'm not saying Aaron used performance enhancing drugs, in fact I highly doubt he did, but why is the public so naive to believe it is not a possibility?
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Ea34Div-I Stud
868 days ago
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It's just that possibility is really farfetched and completely unfounded.
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The oldest manVarsity
868 days ago
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I can definitely tell you from personal experience that the only drug the Babe used was beer and hotdogs. For someone to suggest otherwise makes them somewhat of a moron and idiot in baseball people's minds. Aaron while he may not be the greatest homerun hitter if you look at at bats and homeruns no one comes close to Ruth, didn't even use hot packs. One of the sweetest swings in any era, Hank Aaron, is beloved thoughout baseball. To say, even as a joke, is to put both of these baseball heros in a bad light and have them named in the same breath as the jerk from SF. There is absolutely no doubts in medical minds that Bonds used steriods, he even said so in his grant jury statements, and without them he would not be where he is today with 756 homeruns. I would think that the general public especially the baseball community with not even think that Aaron or Ruth would have used anything like performance enhancing drugs. I read articles like these I get extremely upset that someone would write something like that just to write something bad about them. The public is naive about a lot of things but I don't really think anyone would have that idea cross there minds about two of the premier players in baseball history.
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PSU ROCKSVarsity Captain
868 days ago
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heres an idea look at Barry hitting homerun #1 now look at Barry hitting Homerun #755 Now look at Hank Aaron hitting #1 then at Hank Aaron hitting #755 Hey barry grew three times his orriganal size and Hank well he was still Hank Aaron looking. And saying Cal Ripken Jr was juiced is just pathetic. Lets go out on a limb here and say everyone is juiced Big Pappi Ryan Howard Ken Griffy Jr A-Rod.
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Kwinger 00JV Squad
867 days ago
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Jose Canseco - is that you who wrote this article?
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Yakob878MVP
867 days ago
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ya sounds like it come on aron steroids look at him when he hit 715 his look was far from being all jacked up on roids.
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