Hazing- Does it have a place in sports??

Only if Jamel's playing.

Wait a minute. Worlds are colliding here. I thought Jamel was the new Pnatt???

He was labelled the new Pnatt, which at the time was the old Pnatt, not the second incarnation that we have now... Pnatt II.

pnatt II you are freakin douchebag. Unless you have something worthy of writing piss off

Is it Pnatt? or Peanut? I'm still unclear on that. Is Pnatt how Aussies spell peanut?

Clayton it is obvious that you haven't been hazed before- trying beating them up-- you try beating up 10 other guys over 6'2", 250 lbs, while having a shampoo bottle shuved up your ass and see how far you get

Please note: That was proposed for those who run to lawyers AFTERWARDS. I'm not suggesting that you try to take out 10 big dudes. But if you didn't like the shampoo bottle, you can always go set the shampoo-er's car on fire or break his jaw later on instead of filing a lawsuit...

Clayton you retard-- yeah good idea- go and burn my teammates car afterwards- that really sets up a nice future together-- plus I was only 15 years old-

So you LIKED the shampoo bottle anal play. Okay, that's a totally different scenario. My bad, I was confused.

and I don't take kindly to your use of the word "retard" Spend some time with mentally handicapped people sometime and you'll see how "retarded" you are... the word means slow to develop - like your vocabulary

That's not the point if I liked the shampoo bottle up my ass or not- is this not like rap? Was I not molested?

You know I meant rape-

Some people enjoy being raped, Jamel. Aren't you a shrink? Jeez dude, sometimes it's like I don't even know you anymore.

The 'rap" was a freudian slip.. listening to Ja Rule is akin to being probed by a shampoo bottle (full of screaming cats and babies)

Tupac spoke the truth.

"I only got one night in town, baby doll are you down? I get around?"

Look sometimes I play the rape scene with my wife and she enjoys it but at 15 years old having a shampoo bottle shuved up my ass while jerking off on a piece of bread all while shaving a guys pubs while getting head was a little much-

I never participated in hazing. Got enough torture from my older brothers that my quota was filled anyway. Never gave it, never got it. It's stupid. Group psychology and peer pressure never worked well on me anyway. I don't gravitate towards cliques, I'm a loner, Dottie. A rebel. I played baseball to play baseball, not to make friends. Now pranks are a different story.

Why is it Manny that you have never experienced anything regarding SPORTS- you have NO PERSONAL STORIES

WHO are you talking to? Seriously.

Did I not say Manny- shit man- get the cum out of your eyes and read the screen

...*yawn*

Somebody seems sleepy.

must be...

So anyways, back to hazing and sports. While I never had the experiences Jamel or his wife had, probably because too many of my teamates were members of the church at which my dad was a minister, I did take part in some hazing rituals.

Probably the funniest one was "Laundry Day" where new members of the wrestling team would have to hand-wash everyone's singlets after friday's practice. Most people would make sure to urinate in them before handing them over, but there was the occasional skid mark.

We also had coed P.E. class, and one time this really obnoxious new student got his gym shorts pulled off when he was doing chin-ups, in front of all the girls. What's worse was that this kid had a "sideways" penis when he was exposed (it looked all deformed like it was bent at ninety degrees and shit) so for the rest of the year at every opportunity someone would pants him and everybody would yell "BENT!" (His name was Brent) I guess that was pretty mean. I hope he got straightened out later in life...

So I gather by your *yawn* it means that you have NOT played any sports as a child- especially anything that was higher caliber than sports BINGO night-- amazing how people who have never played the sport feel like they have a right to comment about sports-- Manny for instance and Jay Mariotti

There's a line between hazing and pranks. The kid who got pantsed was pranked. He didn't HAVE to do it to join an exclusive club. Still mean (and funny when it's not you) There was one ritual hazing at my High School (mostly for football and wrestlers)called the "Great Grape Race". There was a long hallway just outside the lockerrooms. And they would match up two guys to race the hallway with a grape in their buttcheeks and the loser of the race had to eat BOTH grapes.

Like owhhh my gosh how horrible-- great story douchebag-- let me guess you were the one who volunteered to place the grape

Good practice for future drug-muling.

Jamel you are a fool. Instigate all you want, but when you say things like "You never tell any personal sports stories" or "You never played any sports" then you are just wasting my AND your own time. You seriously don't pay much attention to things, just what you're gonna type next.

Manny I'm not going to dive in deep and research the chronicals of Erik aka Manny Stiles-- just tell me a personal story you have experienced regarding hazing- what's wrong with that?

and I already told you above - just like you only think about what you're going to type next - I didn't participate in hazing - hazing is dumb. I guess being sexually abused as a kid gave me a sense that hazing wasn't my thing. Forgive me for having a free will and an understanding of what I think is right for me...

Toko here-- Manny the point that Jamel is trying to make is when playing sports YOU DON"T HAVE A CHOICE IF YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN HAZING OR NOT-- unless you want your life to be living hell you go with the flow. Heck, I played on a lacrosse team-- they made us strip down naked and poop on each other-- seriously we had to poop on a person-- then they brought in a fat girl (I have no idea where the hell they found her) and she ATTEMPTED to jerk us off-- she didn't even us any vasoline-- anyway, she kept going until you spewed-- took forever- that girl had huge strong wrists and forearms that never quit- my penis was raw afterwards and then the made us pour vinegar on it-- what the hell man- we never caried on that tradition-- the poop thing we kept

It's about freakin time Manny- seriously I thought this moment would never come-- now be a good dad and talk to your kids- they are craving for attention-- that's why they still poop their pants

All I know after reading this is that I want to hang out with your wife. Oh, and that Nair in a jock strap is a fucking bitch.

Actually, I think that journalism needs hazing. If Mariotti had been subjected to anything even remotely hetero as a child he might not be the douche bag that he is today. That being said, I have obviously eliminated the oreo and the tubbie from any ritual he would need. Granted, they would numbers 1 and 2 on his list that he wanted but hazing is not about what you want.

Yeah but that is all funny stuff- itching powder in the jock strap, making you wear womens clothing- ha ha ha- all in good fun But its humiliated that my wife had to stand in the shower-- wash their bodies, shave them, dry them (sometimes they didn't even give her a towel), dress them, comb their hair, etc etc-- she's not a lesbian so she didn't enjoy it- i've tried to get to be more like one but no success-- it's humiliating

Although it's fundamentally against what I believe, it's still funny to me. I tend to give minuses to comments that consist of "somebody minused me!" If you think the thumbs are so "retarded" IGNORE them...

Manny serious question- What do you believe in?

"There's already WAAAY too many serious moments in life."

Serious moments like working?? Serious moments like taking care of your kids?? Serious moments like what Manny is going to write next at armchair??

I have FUN at everything I do in life, except when I try to bounce logic off of ignoramuses such as yourself.

Enjoy having the last word all your life. Since I'm just a Tremendous Topper I guess having last word is one small small concession I can leave you with...

Well that and that beautiful new invisible font you write with... Let me show you how Ignoring someone is SUPPOSED to work...

There's been something I've been meaning to say to you since the day we met... "Good Bye"

Look one more Serious moment just went down the drain! Hurray!

Tremendous Topper? Kind of porno sounding, don't ya think?

I smell a "Dear Diary" in the near future.

The Chronicles of Young Jay Mariotti have been well documented already...

What about putting "shrimp on the barbee" where a new teamate has to put his nutsack on a hotplate for 10 seconds?

Because the above described are considered Australian social norm perhaps?

really no hazing in Australia? You don't have to fight a kangeroo or try to jump into its sack or anything? Sounds like Australia is kind of nice

No, I'm not endorsing Australia, I'm simply saying I don't recall any hazing.

I'd hate to think what it would require to "haze" a citizen of a country that was founded by outcasts and criminals!

America? or Australia?

Good thing I already foed you, YOU SCUM!!!

America wasn't founded by criminals, they TURNED INTO criminals.

That's what Tyrone does when he can't come up with an original though or idea of his own - he comes with the personal attacks. Then when you respond he tries to make it like you were wrong for defending your statement. Don't waste your time P... A) What does he know about Australia, b) he's only here to F#%$ us and c) he will keep trying until he can get the Troll out of you

I am indeed weepy over that Pnut Damn, I didn't mean to cause an international incident but is it or is it not true that Australia was colonized by criminals? Lemme check Wikepedia and brush up on history here: http://en.wi...of_Australia

No. The Pilgrims were outcasts as were the majority of the other earlt settlers and Colonials were very much criminals. They broke the law when they would pay the taxes and tarriffs and the Boston Tea Party was the first act of terrorism on American soil (err... water). America BECAME a country because they were criminals to their ruler, the King of England... The Declaration of Independence was a criminal act (a damned good one, too)

"refuse to pay the tarriffs", my bad. (an edit comment function would be helpful - but you should only get so many per month - like timeouts)

"America wasn't founded by criminals, they TURNED INTO criminals." Well actually, that is fairly accurate. Things started off admirably by rebelling against King George over hateful matters such as a tax over British tea (JFC - lame) only to later develop a government that now taxes everything. But hey, at least why we got rid of a useless monarchy! When will Australia follow suit and abandon the Queen's Commonwealth?

and if stealing land isn't criminal... well?

I wonder too. We need to ditch the Queen.

There was a referendum in 99 it was defeated to a 45-55% vote.

Stealing land? Yeah, the N. American Indians got screwed over that issue big-time. But my ancestory had issues of its own at that time...

A referendum on whether Australia should become a republic (FYI)

I think Australia has been "one up" on America ever since imposing "Crocodile Dundee" upon our citizenry.

Damnit people why are we talking about Australia??? Every country was founded by people saying F-you Britain you scum-- that's how Canada was founded wasn't it??

No Canada wimped out and is no better than Australia in terms of licking the Queen's uhh.... boots.

Hold on a moment... Actually, the British saved you from the Germans who also got there first. If you have pure US ancestory from before the Independence was given, then those ancestors were British. We stopped the Germans taking you over. Australia can be independent, we don't really need a "Commonwealth", it's redundant now, what with the UN. (We don't need the EU either, but hey).

Canada does suck ass doesn't it-- can't even win at hockey anymore- What good is Australia?? Seriously, it's not like Austria that has really really really really really hot women

The germans saved canadians or australians??

I thought this was about hazing in sports, not commonwealths, queens and fancy pants kids with funny accents?

Canada won the 2007 Ice Hockey World Championship last month. So they do still win at hockey... sometimes.

Britain saved the US. You know how technically the British Royal Family are technically Germans? Well, in about 1600s/1700s they were all King George the something, and were from Hanover. So, they were Germans. When we got to America, the Germans followed too, George (I forget which, there were about four straight George's) wanted some of this "new empire" for Germany too. But basically a bitter feud began between the two factions, and eventually George got a bit bored (people didn't like it) and let Britain retain it. And then you got independence after that.

When I say "Germany" it was only formed in 1870... I think? Fairly recently anyway, by that I mean the bits that now make up Germany were there, like Bavaria, the Saarland etc.

Can we all at least agree that the French are absolutely useless from a military historical and sports points of view?

First off I have a challenge from Pnatt- what the heck do I do? Second- so do we like Germans or hate them?

Yes. :)

Firstly - do whatever you like - accept or decline it. It makes no difference. As long as it's sport related. Secondly - the Germans... Yeah, don't like them much either... Famous Falty Towers sketch springs to mind... Germany is a bad thing. Any langage that has 6 words for "the" is a bad one.

Or "Fawlty" even.

New Marketing Slogan: ArmchairGM - All Are Welcome Except the Damn French.

Toko here: I played hockey--- for hazing they made us play a game with no jock-- they tell other team and they purposely kept hitting us in the balls and penis. That was one moment.

The other involved us having slide naked across the ice during intermission-- you would think skin would slide on ice but nope-- my balls stuck and my nutsack skin got damaged- not funny Lastly, one time they peed in our helmuts before a game- we didn't know until right before-- smelled bad

Ooohhh, then there was the time they brought in real Canadian beer and we had to drink 6 beers before a game-- damn-- stuff is like moonshine- anyway, I pissed myself- now that was funny!!

I.e. that one -> http://www.y...=5MbeT7_ARm8

I could be wrong but wasnt Austrailia orgionally settled by England as a penal colony? Same thing with Georgia. Georgia, in its early stages was intended to be a penal colony for British rule. I might be mistaken on my history but I dont think I am with this one.

Wikipedia has a pretty accurate historical perspective of the early criminal beginnings of Australia!

Yep, that's right. The English didn't want you there, then they kicked you out. But rather than just shoo-them off to some field in the middle of nowhere, they sent them to Australia or maybe Georgia... Then again, maybe they did just that?

I wish they'd send prisoners out of the country now, it would make it such a better place. IMO, you could send them off to Namibia or wherever, and then get some starving Africans, and give their family the opportunity to come to Britain. The people that deserve to be punished live in inhospitable places with famine, disease etc.

This has multiple pros. It's one hell of a deterrant. And it solves aid in Africa to some extent too. Cons... You're actually punishing prisoners. Which is a no-no nowadays. Oh well.

Allison has Beast to protect her from those notorious pole vaulting hazers. Bastards!

So do you think the beast is going to get laid?

Yeah, WHERE IS BEAST? Did he get locked up over night for stalking the fair Allison?

Perhaps we was up ALL NIGHT LONG--- boi yeah! Give it to her you BEAST- (that's what my wife says to me)