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Griffin's Death Causes Re-evaluation of Leaving School Early

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by Kayos

As I site here listening to my music, I'm searching the Internet for some type of news to talk about. I noticed that former Timberwolves Forward Eddie Griffin was killed in a train wreck in Houston, Texas four days ago.  The body was burnt beyond recognition so badly the Harris County Medical Examiner had to use dental records to identify him.  The ME believes that he ignored the railroad warning when his car was struck by freight train at 1:30am.  Let that marinate a minute.  Was it suicide?  Well, I think enough people know the consequences of trying to outrun a train.  The odds of surviving a train accident is less than 0%.  In other words, you don't. 

Let's look back at Eddie Griffin's career.  He was a #7 draft pick to the New Jersey Nets in 2001 after leaving Seton Hall for one season.  He played 2 years with the Houston Rockets and finished his last years with the Minnesota Timberwolves.  He averaged 22.2 minutes a game with a .377 field goal percentage and a .167 free throw percentage with a total of 2171 points for his career.  He wasn't an excellent player but he was average.  Average.  He made a decent contribution but it wasn't enough to help Kevin Garnett make it to the playoffs. 

Griffin was plagued with alcoholism and was suspended at the beginning of the year because he violated the league's anti-drug program.  According to head coach Dwayne Casey for the Minnesota Timberwolves, he was working out this summer to return to the league for the start of the 2007 season.  He had his head on straight but apparently, it wasn't straight enough.  A young man in his prime and at the young age of 25.  We will never know if he would have been another Robert Horry.  Robert Horry is what I call a utility player who has 7 championship rings and will come off the bench balling, seizing opportunities for the team he's playing for.

What was it about the NBA life that this young man's life was cut short?  He left school early because he felt he was ready for professional life.  Yet, his transition into the game wasn't an easy one.  He made contributions but wasn't a standout.  I had to literally look him up because I had no idea who the young man was.  Leaving school early isn't a decision that I support.  I truly think young men need to take advantage of the opportunity to grow and mature before trying to take on the burdens and the responsibility of being a professional player.  NFL has the best policy when it comes to kids coming out early.  I understand basketball isn't a sport anywhere near the physical demands of football but you have to think to yourselves how many of these early starters have truly made that transition smoothly and efficiently.  LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett who started this hullabaloo years after Moses Malone...  These are exceptions.  This also marks a very small group.  Athletes making this jump because of money isn't a decent enough reason.  These young men need to develop.  Strengthen their bodies.  Kevin Durant left after his first year at Texas and couldn't bench press 185 lbs.  The only player of this year's rookies that couldn't do so.  Yet, he's a versatile player without strength.  His first outing in the developmental league was also a bust.  Who are we kidding?  I think he's an awesome player but if he can't pass the strength test and the speed of the game then you need to take your scholarship back.  Don't be another Eddie Griffin.  Don't let the woes of not being the star player lead you to ruin and depression.  Life is worth so much more.  Ask Eddie Griffin.


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JuTMSY4Legend
813 days ago
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Wait, you're blaming his death on leaving school early?
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KayosWaterboy
812 days ago
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Nope, I am saying it is a factor.
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SSreportersLegend
812 days ago
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How is that a factor?
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KayosWaterboy
812 days ago
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So you don't think the adjustment to the pros had no effect whatsoever to his depression that could have led to this accident? Then if that's the case people losing their jobs wouldn't kill themselves either. All I'm saying is that it could have contributed to his lack of success in the pros. That is all I'm saying. Don't read more into it than that.
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SSreportersLegend
812 days ago
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I won't bother to finish this discussion, I realized that we can't win.
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JuTMSY4Legend
812 days ago
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No...SS kinda pointed this about before...your articles ascerts that one had an effect on the other...but I've only seen a correlation...

I mean...how many athletes who went to school for multiple years (or graduated) have done stupid stuff...

If anything, it has a lot more to do with the background before college...college, at least for me, was a total sink or swim experience...
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KayosWaterboy
812 days ago
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Exactly...I'm airing a correlation more so than a factor.
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KayosWaterboy
812 days ago
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SS, I hear what you are saying. I'm not totally closed minded. I was giving something for people to think about. You are the only one that doesn't see where I'm coming from.
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
813 days ago
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Yeah, I am not a big fan of players leaving school early, However, you cannot blame Griffens death on him leaving school early.
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JuTMSY4Legend
813 days ago
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I used to think it was totally bogus to leave school early...then Matt Leinart showed up...

Look, if you need to be refined (this is more prevalent in football obviously), you should stay in school...but if you're going to be a #1 pick...go for it...if you bust and suck you can always return to college and/or coach (Ryan Leaf is a coach folks!)

I have no issue with a player who reaches his college peak and goes "Show me the money"...he's earned it...look at Carmelo Anthony...but is he better than wade, bosh, etc?

Its certainly a double-edged sword, but its a lot harder to have those standards when you've go pro teams "litterally" (get it!) pulling up dumptrucks full of cash on your front lawn
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
813 days ago
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I agree with you, but in football you have to go to school for 3 years so its a whole another animal. In basketball though even wit hthe 1 year rule things are different. Agents have a lot more access to to players at a younger age. Too often they get these players to believe they are 1 picks when they wont be. Especially since you cannot predict who will have the first pick in the NBA draft. In addition, sadly many times those players cannot return to school due to academic reasons.
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JuTMSY4Legend
813 days ago
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Sounds like a problem for the NCAA then the NBA...

and it is...then again, I don't feel to terrible for Student athletes...they really do get treated very well...

At my school, with each meal plan (which athletes get on scholarship) you get a set amount of "Husky Dollars"...every school has basically the same thing...well you can also exchange your meal plan for downgrade it for husky dollars...in general, you can exchange a full 19 per week meal plan for a couple thousand dollars...and there are a myriad of local places to use it...but you can't use it at liquor stores or to buy booze at local restaurants...however you can use it to buy gift certificates at those restaurants....and use those to buy beer...its elaborate...but it pisses me off that student athletes on full scholarships can use that money to get drunk...and NU isn't exactly a big player in NCAA sports (Div 1 hockey and basketball being the biggest)...so essentially they're drinking on my tab...
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
813 days ago
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I agree, we had "Muskie dollars" at X and athletes had about $500 worth each semister while the rest of us had about 100. There are plenty of perks, and the NCAA is not managed very well in that regard.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
813 days ago
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It's a very common argument, but people go to college so that they can get a good job with a good salary. If these guys, many of whom grew up without much money, have a chance to provide a better life for their families at a young age, it's unfair for anyone to tell them to pass up the opportunity.
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Ea34Div-I Stud
813 days ago
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Didn't realize I wasn't logged in. The above comment was mine.
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IbeargRed-Shirting
813 days ago
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I think in Eddie Griffin's case an extra year or two in college wouldn't have done a whole lot. He had character issues in college, and i doubt more college would have really solved it. The nfl rules on staying in college certainly didn't help Vick or Pacman. Point being there's gonna be some guys who are too immature/not mentally stable enough to handle a professional lifestyle no matter how many years at college they have.
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SSreportersLegend
813 days ago
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Griffin's death was because he left school early? Kayos, I'm pretty logical, I cannot put these things together.
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JuTMSY4Legend
813 days ago
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Correlation does not determine a causal relationship...
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KayosWaterboy
812 days ago
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I was saying it was a factor. I'm not blaming it. I was taking the sports issue in the story and reporting that. I don't know why he did it but it can be a factor. I just didn't address the other factors.
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SSreportersLegend
812 days ago
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No offense, but of all the factors you could've possibly put....
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CoupingtonWaterboy
813 days ago
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If Griffin’s death can be tied back to leaving school early, what about this: let’s say a kid with lots of potential turns down a boatload of cash to stay in school then tears his ACL and never fully recovers so he can’t play in the pros. And let’s say he’s so distraught by this that he turns to alcohol and ends up driving his truck into a train. Would his death be an argument that kids SHOULD leave school early? Of course not. You just can’t tie the two things together so closely because there are too many other variables.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
813 days ago
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If people would just stop being born, then so many fewer people would have to die!
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JMoffatWaterboy
813 days ago
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i agree with manny
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SSreportersLegend
813 days ago
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Here's what I can tie together now that I've read this article.

Michael Vick's criminal history was tied to being in Virginia Tech

Tim Donaghy betting on NBA games is related to having a 3 vowels in his name

Dan Quayle's state the obvious remarks came from being an actor.
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Brendan.CanneyDiv-I Stud
812 days ago
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I think the correlation he is trying to make is that if Griffin had stayed around in college and garnered some kind of discipline he wouldn't have had the (pun intended) train wreck of a career.
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SSreportersLegend
812 days ago
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Kayos is a she.......But, I don't think Griffin would've garnered any discipline.
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Brendan.CanneyDiv-I Stud
812 days ago
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she/he apples/oranges Anyway, you can't say he would have or wouldn't have because he stayed at Seton Hall for only a year. It's all speculation.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
812 days ago
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maybe he wouldn't have garnered any more discipline, but do you really think that a few more years of developement could have hurt. He probably could have used a few years of "Paying his dues" like the rest of us. How much maturity did you gain from 19 to 22? Probably alot huh? Not only could a few more years in college helped, but it also could have allowed for him to truly judged by NBA squads a determined to be a headcase before the draft. I dunno, just my opinion that you really shouldn't just throw out the correlation between the two.
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Steel TownDraft Pick
812 days ago
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The above anonymous comment was me, I thought I was logged in.
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KelsdadAll-Star
812 days ago
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Let's look at it from a maturity level. There are examples of guys going to the NBA from high school who have no issues, Kobe and LeBron being prime examples. They came from strong family backgrounds and didn't grow up in a kill or be killed world.

Then you have the Eddie Griffin's, Sebastian Telfair's, Bill Willoughby's...guys from the 'hood with no leadership influences, which breeds immaturity. Then drop a few million bucks on him, and look what happens.

No question Griffin had some mental issues, but in a structured enviornment before th NBA (college) things may have turned out differently. Either he refused offers of help or didn't know how to ask. Either way, he paid the ultimate price.
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SSreportersLegend
812 days ago
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Kobe had no issues? Uhhhhhh....
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JuTMSY4Legend
812 days ago
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That's a great point...Kobe isn't really even from Philly...douchebag...
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Brendan.CanneyDiv-I Stud
812 days ago
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Kobe certainly has had issues during his career but his adjustment from high school to the pros was easier than shaking down a prostitute in Camden.
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Brendan.CanneyDiv-I Stud
812 days ago
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Lower Merion isn't exactly the inner city. Can't get much more white suburban actually.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
812 days ago
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Kobe's a fraud, yes, yes we know.

UPPER Merion isn't close to "the inner city"

Calling Lower Merion - "Philly" is like calling the Hamptons - "New York City"
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XtinctWaterboy
812 days ago
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I think that a little too much emphasis is put on athletes staying in school. After all, there are tons of non-student athletes that drop out of school and go on to have successful careers. College isn't necessarily for everyone but for football players (specifically) and to a lesser degree basketball players, some college is a requirement. I often wonder why no one complains about baseball players skipping college to go to the minor leagues where many of the players stay for twenty years playing for close to nothing. The same goes for hockey. Leaving college early, in my opinion, had nothing to do with Eddie Griffin's death. I can't even see the correlation.
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Steel TownDraft Pick
812 days ago
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I would be willing to bet that on average the College graduate leads a more "successful" life than the college drop out. Also, the minors which basketball and football lack, help develop the players not only on a sports level but also on a personal level thats why no one complains in those sports.
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Anonymous Fanatic #3
198 days ago
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I think this entry was very well written, I even used some of this for an english speech. Leaving school early is a choice that needs to be made by the player. If he or she is good enough to be a dominant and productive player in the pros, then go. But if there are any doubts about that, staying in school and improving yourself and your draft position will make the future a lot brighter.
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