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Greg Oden's "Unintentional Foul"

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by user Sbrokos

The only coverage I've heard of Ohio State's comeback win over Xavier in round 2 of the NCAA tournament was that Greg Oden's foul near the end of regulation should have been called intentional and sealed the game for Xavier. This idea is absurd.

First of all no one seems to mention how Oden was fouled while trying to make that rebound. Apparently holding a player's arms back while the ball is up for grabs is ok now. However, the referees did their jobs and swallowed their whistles at the end of the game in order to let the plaers decide the outcome. Exactly what they should have done.

However, the most disturbing thing about the media's reaction to the play is their hypocrisy. Typically, the general consensus is that the players should decide the end of games, not the officials. Well isn't that exactly what happened? Oden had to foul Cage in order for the clock to stop and to bank their entire season on a missed free throw and a clutch three pointer to tie. He bumps into the guy to ensure a foul, Cage leaps out of bounds and that should be the deciding play of the game? If the ref calls and intentional foul and claims Xavier the winner after that play we never would have seen Cage miss the 2nd free throw and never would have seen Ron Lewis' incredible 3 pointer to tie the game and send it overtime where it was decided exactly where it should have been, by the players on the court. Whether or not a foul should be deemed intentional is a judgement call. In this particular instance, that's like eliminating the score of a game and having a judge decide at the end who won.

Why are sports analysts calling for this? Is it because they need something to fill all of the time they've alloted for Around the Horn, Pardon the Interruption and Sportscenter; 2 straight hours of people taking about the exact same stories? I understand it must be hard to pick sports stories to talk about in order to fill a day, but it seems like stories are being created rather than reported. Ohio State-Xavier was a phenomenal game. Xavier played an incredible game and almost had the Buckeyes dead and buried. Ohio State's ensuing comeback and clutch shooting made for one of, if not the best game of the 1st 2 rounds. Why not talk about the game rather than an appropriate "non-call"? If refs are deciding the outcomes of games, fans will lose interest quick. Then what will all these talking-heads do for a living? Be careful what you wish for.


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ChristofMVP
985 days ago
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Dude, Oden slam dunked the Xavier player. He used too much force. More than likely, he didn't get the intentional foul because: 1. he just fouled out, 2. the game was on the line, and the refs did not want to accused of influencing the winner.
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WildcatmattWaterboy
985 days ago
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I think the refs just didn't call the foul on Oden out of respect to their elders.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
985 days ago
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I'm locking in the nickname "Babyface" for Greg Oden
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False ProphetAll-Star
985 days ago
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I've watched that Replay a couply dozen times. There's no question Oden's foul was intentional. He pulls his arms back, and then steps into the hit. The foul on him wasn't called because it was in the center of the action and everyone's hands were flying. IF oden were to have just bumbed him, or knocked the guys arms, or even pushed him as if he was pushing off of the Xavier player, it would have deserved only 2 shots. It wouldn't have changed the game. Xavier would have gone to to the line to shoot 3 shots, with a two point lead. Cage likely would have missed the thrid shot. YOu are an idiot. The ref couldn't have called the game for Xavier then. xavier had a 2 point lead, and had to go to the line to shoot three. The same player missed his next free throw in that game. No one wanted the ref to end the game there. They wanted the player to go to the line and shoot 3 instead of 2. Your article lacks any sort of reasonability or logic.
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SbrokosLittle Leaguer
985 days ago
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Actually, a flagrant would have given Cage his two free throws and then given Xavier the ball back. With 9 seconds left Xavier would have gotten fouled again and gone back to the line up three (after the first made free throw and missed 2nd). I'm glad you know the rules before calling me an idiot, it really makes you look intelligent.
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SbrokosLittle Leaguer
985 days ago
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I mean "Intentional" not "Flagrant"
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False ProphetAll-Star
985 days ago
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ok, but they foul the same guy, and he gets a shot to win. Who knows what happens. OSU still have 9 seconds left, and we don't know what the score would be. I'm not sure that XU would have won, but they should have hade their chance to win it.
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
985 days ago
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Sounds like a typical Ohio State fan. XU was robbed of that game. Oden hammered him and it was a flagrent. Even if it is the end of the game, a rule is a rule and itss the refs job to call enforce them.
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False ProphetAll-Star
985 days ago
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finally, a voice of reason. I'm not sure XU would have won the game, but they should have had another shot to win it
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
985 days ago
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Well I expect a suspect play from any player coached by a man with the lack of integrity that Thad Mata has.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
985 days ago
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I didn't see it. I'll just assume the refs got it right like they always do...
You Lost Don't Blame The Ref.
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False ProphetAll-Star
985 days ago
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exactly. I don't think the ref lost them the game, I just think they should have had another chance(which they'd probably blow).
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BU ICEMANJV Squad
985 days ago
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This statement makes your argument invalid: "Typically, the general consensus is that the players should decide the end of games, not the officials. Well isn't that exactly what happened? Oden had to foul Cage in order for the clock to stop and to bank their entire season on a missed free throw and a clutch three pointer to tie." This is a major misconception about referees. Ask the question "Why does the referee have to make the judgement regarding a common foul or an intentional foul?" Answer: Because the player's actions necessitated the referee to blow his whistle. The referees are NOT deciding the end of games, the players are. In the same way that you have to put yourself in a position to be lucky, you also need to avoid putting yourself in a position to be unlucky. If you use a two-handed shove, with no discernable intent to make a play on the ball, to foul an opposing player, you're putting yourself in a position to be "unlucky" because your actions are requiring the referee to make a decision. Don't give him that opportunity and you don't have that problem. Refereeing is reactive, not proactive. There has to be something to cause the referee to blow his whistle.
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SbrokosLittle Leaguer
985 days ago
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First of all, you didn't explain at all how my sentence makes the argument invalid. Secondly, your second paragraph is true. The referee didn't call an intentional foul.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
985 days ago
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clap...clap...clap...
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BU ICEMANJV Squad
985 days ago
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Because you imply that if the referee would have called an intentional foul, the referee would have decided the end of the game. My point is that the player's actions are the direct cause of referee actions and therefore ALWAYS decide the game.
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
984 days ago
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Every close basketball game has an (estimated) average of four to five fouls that "should be" called intentional because the players don't put forth the effort to go for the ball. They just push the player or pull their arm or something. This just looks a lot more dramatic when you have a 7' guy doing it.
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