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Francona on Thin Ice?

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by user Dukeboy999


Its seems to me that Boston Red Sox Manager Terry Francona must be skating on thin ice when it comes to his job. After all, Boston finished in third place in the AL East last year, only 10 games above .500. With all the money going into this team from the ownership group, shouldn't they be able to expect a little more?

Is Francona on thin ice?
Is Francona on thin ice?

And now that the Sox have brought in Daisuke Matsuzaka, Francona will be under even more pressure to make a playoff run. Not to mention the signings of Julio Lugo and J.D. Drew. The Boston pitching rotation has to be looked at as one of the strongest in the American League coming into the season. The rotation goes six deep with Schilling, Beckett, Matsuzaka, Papelbon, Wakefield, and Jon Lester. (The same Jon Lester who just finished Cancer treatments) It will be interesting to see if Beckett can have a strong bounceback season, and if Papelbon can make the transition from the Bullpen.

In terms of the Bullpen itself, the Sox still have a little bit of work to do in the off season. Timlin and Tavarez are solid veteran arms, but after that the pool shallows. Guys like Debarr, Breslow, and Delcarmen will have to prove their worth quickly. To make a serious run, the Sox will still need to find a reliable closer to finish close games.

As for the offense, Boston should get above average run support. Lugo will be a solid top of the lineup guy, with good speed. The perfect guy to mix things up, and create runs on the base paths. JD Drew should also be a solid compliment to Manny and Ortiz in the 3, 4, 5 slots. I still thing the Red Sox need to find something more long term than Kevin Youkilis at first base, but he will have to do for now.

So where does this leave Terry Francona? With a team that should at least win a Wild Card spot. Third place and only 10 games over .500 is not where this franchise wants or needs to be. And Im sure management won't wait until this team falls into another postseason drought to make another change at skipper. This is a franchise afterall, that is not afraid to make a change at the helm. So you have to ask yourself the question, how much longer does Terry Francona have in Boston?

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Bball3345Draft Pick
1120 days ago
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Francona can only play the players he's got. There's no reason to blame Francona for any "failure" in the past or future. All the blame should go on the player's for underperforming or the front office for not getting the right guys. Firing Francona would only be blaming a scapegoat. It won't lead to any changes.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1120 days ago
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And I'm sure after the Red Sox go to the playoffs this season, Francona won't be on very thin ice.
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Dukeboy999Varsity Captain
1120 days ago
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Im just sayin, something must be wrong if they don't this year. They have made good additions that should make them a shoe in for the playoffs.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1120 days ago
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If anything stops them it will be either a very talented Yankees team or injuries/ major underperforming.
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Dukeboy999Varsity Captain
1120 days ago
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If they do go to the playoffs, no he wont be. But you have to admit he has to hes got a very solid lineup.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1120 days ago
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Yeah, you are right that he will probably be on the "hot seat" if the Red Sox don't go to the playoffs. I just don't think that he should be. He's a good manager and blaming him for not making the playoffs is ignorant/naive.
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XinophDraft Pick
1119 days ago
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If they don't go to the playoffs *and* they don't have the kind of decimating injuries that they saw at the end of the season last year *and* most of the new guys perform near expected levels.
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XinophDraft Pick
1119 days ago
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*don't* perform near..., sorry. :)
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Dukeboy999Varsity Captain
1120 days ago
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What you think about their pitching?
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1120 days ago
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I know you don't think Matsuzaka will be as good as I do, but I think he will be the best pitcher on the Sox next year, if not the best in the league (outside of Johan). Schilling is still an ace, but Beckett was, well, terrible last year. The home run ball just destroyed Beckett. On the bright side, he was healthy all season, so he could definitely bounce back to a solid #2/#3 starter. Then you've got a combo of Papelbon, Lester, and Wakefield filling out the rest of the rotation at this point. I think Papelbon would be another very solid starter, although he may be needed moreso in the bullpen, since Wakefield and Lester are both above average starters. There are definitely huge question marks in the rotation, but they could potentially have three aces in their rotation (Schilling, Matsuzaka, Papelbon) and two above average pitchers in Beckett and Wakefield. I'm not sure about their bullpen. They should probably keep Papelbon in it as their ace closer and let Lester throw in the rotation.
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XinophDraft Pick
1119 days ago
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Papelbon's much better to have in the rotation, believe me. They'd be crazy not to move him there this year; if he stays in the bullpen now he's probably there forever. Beckett was adjusting to a new league and had about three or four different catchers the last half of the season. I think he'll bounce back. Their biggest worry is still their closer.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1119 days ago
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Especially since they just got Donnelly to bolster the bullpen a little bit. Their bullpen isn't great, but that definitely makes the shift of Papelbon to the rotation easier.
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Dukeboy999Varsity Captain
1120 days ago
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It will be interesting to see if Beckett bounces back no?
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1120 days ago
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Definitely, I have always rooted for him, wishing he would stay healthy. He is one of the most talented pitchers I have seen. Last season, he was healthy, but he just couldn't keep the ball in the park. I think he will work out some of the problems from last season and have an ERA in the mid-4.00s. He definitely isn't going over 5.00 again this season.
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J CunninghamVarsity Captain
1120 days ago
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I think having won the Wolrd Series a few years ago buys Francona a little more leeway than he might otherwise get.
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Dukeboy999Varsity Captain
1120 days ago
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How long can he last without making a run at another one though?
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1120 days ago
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One would think, but places like New York and Boston do seem to make the Hot Seat a little bit warmer.
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Dukeboy999Varsity Captain
1120 days ago
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Exactly so how long does he last without making a deep run?
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J CunninghamVarsity Captain
1120 days ago
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Judging by Red Sox history, I'd say another 80 years or so. :P
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The sharkDraft Pick
1120 days ago
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Francona is not on the hot seat, on thin ice, or in any kind of jeopardy of losing his job.
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The sharkDraft Pick
1120 days ago
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And you forgot Matt Clement when listing their pitchers. Anyhow, last year's debacle was greatly due to shortcomings in the front office and a plethora of injuries. Nobody in the organization holds Francona responsible for '06 failures.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1120 days ago
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Clement had shoulder surgery and may not pitch this season.
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Dukeboy999Varsity Captain
1120 days ago
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He hasn't produced with this lineup at all.
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The sharkDraft Pick
1120 days ago
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HMMMM... That's due (in large part) to the fact that he is a manager - not a player.
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Dukeboy999Varsity Captain
1120 days ago
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HMMMMM... Seems the manager always takes the blam for an underachieving team.
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The sharkDraft Pick
1120 days ago
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If you recall (and I would not be surprised if you did not), this team was in first place at the All-Star break. At that time, the Sox were relatively healthy. Right after the break, nearly everybody on the team (except Papi) suffered injuries and missed some time. Varitek being the most significant, as he is among the best in baseball at calling a game and handling a pitching staff. Now unless Francona were secretly beating his own players with a tire iron in the parking lot, I fail how to see that the job he did last year was a failure. As far as not producing with this lineup - he hasn't even coached this lineup yet. C'mon Dukeboy. You obviously have no knowledge about the Red Sox. Did you just write thi article to ruffle some feathers and run up the comment count?
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
1120 days ago
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The point of the article is not ludicrous, and actually, I guarantee you that if the Sox don't make it to the playoffs again, the most faithful of Sox nation would call for a managerial change. God forbid there are no significant injuries, that will be even more fuel to the fire.
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BWWWaterboy
1119 days ago
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Then it's a good thing that RED SOX NATION is not the GM of the team. Francona is not going anywhere.
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EnyboDiv-I Stud
1119 days ago
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Maybe he did beat his players with a tire iron. That would explain why Manny wants out of Boston so bad.
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Dukeboy999Varsity Captain
1120 days ago
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I know more about the game as a whole than anyone on this site. And if you knew anything about anything, you or I could manage an AL team. Its a joke if he doesn't make the playoffs this year. Injuries or no injuries.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1120 days ago
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"I know more about the game as a whole than anyone on this site." You can say what you want, but that wasn't a smart move.
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EnyboDiv-I Stud
1119 days ago
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I try not to make fun of the writers on this site because I enjoy reading all the different perspectives, but Dukeboy, you are terrible. Thats fine that you know a lot abotu baseball and enjoy analyzing the sport and the moves. But to say you know more about it han anyone on this site is just arrogant. A few days ago you were bashing the Sox for their signings of Lugo, Drew, and Dice-K saying it has set the Sox back 10 years, now you are saying that are good moves and will compliment the rest of the order? You must be related to John Kerry.
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The sharkDraft Pick
1119 days ago
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Agreed. I try not to ever let it get to that point myself, but Enybo - I have to agree w/ you. Good post.
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Dukeboy999Varsity Captain
1119 days ago
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Ok whatever you say Oh mighty sports god. To the surprise of many I am becoming slowly more positive towards others on the site. If I can, you can to so get the stick out of your ass. Having said that I will refrain from taking you apart. All I have to say is that 20-for 22 isn't bad. Figure it out for yourself if you have to. Your writing is actually really good though, so stick to that instead of trashing me maybe?
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Dukeboy999Varsity Captain
1119 days ago
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By the way that was for enybo. Im cool with Shark on my end for now and don't feel the need to trash him.
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XinophDraft Pick
1119 days ago
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Really? You've shown no evidence of it thus far. In fact, you've shown a lot of evidence of the exact opposite.
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Dukeboy999Varsity Captain
1120 days ago
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I will give you Varitek though. And I pay much more attention to the NL being a Pirates fan.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
1120 days ago
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If you knew so much about the game you wouldn't be a pirates fan.
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Dukeboy999Varsity Captain
1120 days ago
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Hows that? You have to be a front runner to be a fan of the game?
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
1120 days ago
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You're the duke fan, you tell me.
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Dukeboy999Varsity Captain
1120 days ago
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Point for you and no. Being from Pitt I guess Im a natural Bucco fan.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
1120 days ago
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Thanks for the pt. Just havin a bit of fun and razzin ya a bit for being a pirate fan.
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Dukeboy999Varsity Captain
1120 days ago
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Dont worry happens all the time. I probably deserve it.
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