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ESPN360 Dies an Unneccessary Death: A Lesson in Network Neutrality

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by DNL

ESPN has done something amazingly good -- it has shown that network neutrality is a good idea.

About a week ago, I was ready to pronounce that ESPN is officially evil. No, not because they force crud down my throat, like some random NASCAR race, or the WNBA, or Arena football (which I actually like), or Cold Pizza. Nor because most of their good content is behind the "INsider wall". Not because they banned me from their message boards for, well, not being a childish moron. And not because their idea of a blog -- Henry Abbott's excluded -- is a blogghoreaic spewing of links but only to major newspapers.

No, ESPN was due the "Officially Evil" because ESPN360 violated a fundamental principle of the World Wide Web -- network neutrality. Network neutrality basically means that websites should be accessable from any ISP. If I want to visit ArmchairGM, for example, I should be able to do so from Time Warner Cable (like I have at home), Verizon DSL (me at work), Cablevision, Cox Internet, Earthlink, AOL, NetZero, etc.

ESPN360 violated this tenet. And now, ESPN360 is dead. It will be reborn, and hopefully correctly. If not, ESPN is indeed either stupid or evil -- and potentially both. But let's give the "Worldwide Leader" the benefit of the doubt -- for now.

In doing so, let's take a tour of the tragic mistake ESPN made, by rewinding a week or so.

I surfed over to ESPN360's home page. It's a standard ESPN page but focused on video:



Yep -- an ad, ESPN tabs, etc. Looks like regular ESPN. I listen to about ten second of the Fantasy Focus, and then it cuts away. I hear something both unexpected and shocking:

We're sorry, but you don't have access to ESPN360. Please contact your Internet Service Provider and ask them to partner with ESPN360

The video echos this ridiculousness, as shown by this screen shot:



What's that? I have to ask my ISP to get me access to a website?

Apparently, yes. Forget network neutrality. On the right, there's a place for "Out of Network ESPN360.com Users" to sign in, using Verizon or AT&T credentials, but I'm not sure that I have either. Under that, it says "Get ESPN360.com" and prompts me to enter my zip code to find a provider. At this point, I can't imagine it will find me one. There's only one provider in my area -- Time Warner Cable -- that I know of. In any event, it's not like I'm going to switch ISPs just to watch PTI.

But, nonetheless, I put in my zip code. ESPN pops up a window which says:

ESPN360.com is available nationwide, but you must subscribe to a participating broadband internet service provider. Complete the fields below for more information on how to get ESPN360.com today.

Okay, no problem. I fill out the form and see this:

In short, ESPN has violated the principle of network neutrality, and asks me to be its advocate in "convincing" my ISP to "partner" with them -- a partnership which will cost my ISP money and lead to me paying more for internet access. ESPN outright refuses to let me pay for the service directly. As stated by the Wall Street Journal:

An unusual business model similar to how many cable TV networks operate also has likely limited its growth. ESPN360 charges its Internet service a monthly fee instead of recruiting individual subscribers to pay a fee for its content. While it can claim AT&T Inc. and Verizon as customers, major cable companies like Time Warner Cable Inc., Comcast Corp. and Cox Communications Inc. have balked at the idea of paying for a single service that not all of their Web customers want. "That's not a model we're looking to take into the Internet space," says a Cox spokesman.

Why is this a big deal?

Mostly, because it sets a terrible precedent, and is unseemly to boot. Taking the latter first: It's unseemly because there's a big ad atop the ESPN360 page. The same ESPN360 whose sole function is to tell me that I can't use the service. Imagine if you came to ArmchairGM and, when you tried to click a link to read an article, you saw (a) an ad and (b) a big banner which said "Sorry, your ISP didn't pay us, so you can't read this article. Why don't you write a letter to your ISP to get them to pay us?"

You'd never come back, and rightfully so.

The precedent though, is worse. As the Wall Street Journal reports, "[a]n ESPN spokesman declined to reveal what companies pay to get ESPN360." For now, it's safe to assume that AT&T, Verizon, etc. are either partnering to provide other ESPN services, such as Verizon's VCast of ESPN video over mobile phones; or are simply writing ESPN a check. However, what happens when another, smaller internet content provider -- say, the Sporting News or even ArmchairGM -- does something that ESPN doesn't like? ESPN has a history of condoning attempts to silence its critics -- firing Gregg Easterbrook for making arguably offensive comments is fine, but deleting his archived stories is absurd; defaming Jason Whitlock for claiming ESPN mistreated him is simply unworthy of "the Worldwide Leader"; repeatedly taking blogger's content without citation; and not taking action against Colin Cowherd when he instigated a denial of service attack against The Big Lead are just some examples of ESPN's heavyhanded, no-holds-barred approach. What's to say that ESPN won't tell AT&T that if AT&T customers want ESPN services, AT&T needs to block other websites? Bad press is a non-issue when you are the press.

But that may not matter -- because it seems that ESPN may be getting it. Well, maybe. They announced yesterday that ESPN360 is going to be "relaunched", with a focus on live events. However, the Journal also reports that ESPN may continue on their path of violating principles of network neutrality.

If the do, ESPN360 will once again fail. Not because it's evil, though; because it's bad for business. The Journal summed it up nicely: "As a result [of their policy], ESPN360 reaches fewer than 16 million households. A total of 53.3 million homes had high-speed connections in the first quarter of 2007[.]"

ESPN is leaving a lot of money on the table in order to emphasize that it is the "Worldwide Leader." Every day, though, these egotistical maneuvers make that self-given moniker less and less true.

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WrmjrRed-Shirting
842 days ago
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excellent article. Nice work!
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MegECass110AAA-er
842 days ago
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I'm so glad someone brought this up. ESPN360 should be like Insider, where individual subscribers just pay. Last year over Christmas break, when I was home in Boston, Syracuse was playing a basketball game on ESPN360, but of course I couldn't watch it. That pissed me off.
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Silencer76AAA-er
842 days ago
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Yep, I agree. I enjoy the stuff Insider gives me, especially when it comes to FFL stuff and trade rumors, but I thought the point of having 360 was so we could access MORE stuff, not be cut off from it if you didn't have a certain ISP.
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JuTMSY4Legend
842 days ago
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Good stuff...and yes its total bullshit...

The only good thing about Insider is that its akin to Sports Illustrated...if you go on SI's website, most magazine content is protected for a little while (I encounter it less and less though) and my dad has a subscription so i just log in under his stuff...

The same applies with ESPN the mag and insider (which isn't a bad deal, when you think about it)...i understand ESPN making you pay for tons of content that would otherwise be in a magazine or something that woudl cost money....but in the case of 360, they're just trying to strongarm us..
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
842 days ago
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I think you've missed something here. The issue here is not the ISP choosing not to allow access to a website....it is in fact, the website itself choosing not to allow users of certain ISPs to access their content. That is a TOTALLY different concept and the owener of the website can try to get revenue however they see fit. You don't have democratic rights to ESPN360. If this were reveresed and ESPN wanted to give you free access, but Time-Warner said "No, you have to pay for cable tv to get acces to ESPN videos" then it would be a huge net neutrality issue as well as an outrage.
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Reeper182Soccer Kid
842 days ago
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Remember when ESPN was battling with Cox Cable because Cox cable wanted viewers to pay extra for espn... pathetic... and cold pizza is the worst show on T.V.
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InterMatAll-American
842 days ago
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Nice job Dan ... I had so many problems in trying to view some of the wrestling coverage and footage during the NCAA championships to see how it looked.

The only difference was, I was at the NCAA championships on the NCAA's hard-line and still wasn't allowed to get ESPN360.

Eventually, my mom became a Verizon internet customer and could finally access it, but using her log-in and account ... just a real pain in the ass.

It had some potential, but you're right on almost every point ... dead solid on.
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Yakob878MVP
842 days ago
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Dnl you have done it again great article and keep up the good work
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
842 days ago
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of course this whole argument is moot since ESPN doesn't do hockey coverage anymore.
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Baltimoresports247All-American
841 days ago
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Dan I love your stuff man very nice...
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Ball lover55Pee Wee
838 days ago
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it's gone? nuts, i was gona go there soon :(
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BuldilarekidVarsity
837 days ago
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good article
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Anonymous Fanatic #3
836 days ago
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So our university should disconnect our Gigabit connection and go DSL??
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Anonymous Fanatic #4
831 days ago
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While I agree in the principal of network neutrality, this is the first test of whether or not legislation and a government bureaucracy to enforce it is necessary. ANY government legislation is a terrible trend to set and I hope we don't go that way unless absolutely necessary. Ultimately, this with lay the groundwork for the feds to tax the net to "cover the costs of neutrality regulation and enforcement" - soon the tax will also fund an FCC like oversight agency, and before you know it the net will be considered in the same vane as the "public airwaves" and censorship will ensue.

Remember, when the income tax was enacted in 1913, it was 1.0% up to $20,000 with a personal exemption of $3,000 (hardly anyone paid it) - It's no wonder it had public support, it was pitched a tax on the wealthy (and it really was), but the highest marginal rate was 7%.

By 1950, the lowest rate was nearly 20%, your personal exemption had fallen to $600, and the highest rates were hovering around 90%.

The lesson - NEVER trust the federal government - Don't make a mistake, Net Neutrality legislation IS regulation, it will start innocent enough like the income tax did... Instead, boycott and write letters to ESPN and the ISPs, the free market has the power to do this on it's own...
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BryanallainSoccer Kid
829 days ago
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I DID have access to ESPN360 being a Frontier ISP User and honestly, i never used it. I think i tried to once and i was having glitches watching videos so i just gave up. ESPN does a lot of things well, and a lot of things not so well either...this was the latter for sure.
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Anonymous Fanatic #5
829 days ago
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ESPN360 is really a pain. I've never used it because I live out of the country. So not only do they limit their American customers, they limit their potential worldwide customers. I normally pay ESPN for college gameplan online (games streamed over the net) because I love my college football. However it seems this year ESPN is even going to drop that in favor of ESPN360. So now they won't even take my money for that. Something I've always paid for. Thanks ESPN.
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Anonymous Fanatic #6
307 days ago
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One of the issues with limiting access to US only residents is that of TV broadcasting rights. This is why services such as Zattoo TV have nothing to offer for US residents, because none of the networks they carry have broadcasting rights for the US and do not feel interested in obtaining those so that they can serve a fragmented market that is of no interest to their advertisers.
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Anonymous Fanatic #7
818 days ago
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ESPN is Blackmailing the Cable Companies, pure and simple, and getting everyone to help.. IF..IF they go public allowing individual subscribers, they destroy the one major wall that keeps people from dropping cableTV service all together. If they go public with individual subscribers, you can then get the sports you want, and free TV off the net and air, all without paying upwards of $1200 a year on cableTV.. By their current policy, they can Blackmail cable companies into paying to keep themselves in the loop. I expect this policy to continue. The cable companies don't view internet TV as a real threat YET.. ESPN's policy relies on internet TV being a threat. By getting this policy in place early, by the time HD Over The Air broadcasts become more widespread , and Joost and similar services gain popularity, they will already have a precedent for making cable companies pay (essentially paying to keep ESPN360 from going public subscriber) At that point, the one missing service from all the available Free services, becomes Live Sports from ESPN.. They know what they are doing, as bad and inconvenient as it is, and will likely keep doing it until the plan reaches it's full potency.
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Anonymous Fanatic #8
814 days ago
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ESPN360.com is still around... it's just different now that it relaunched, it's all live games and replays of games. I watched a couple college FB games at my friend's last weekend and the video quality was awesome. I have Road Runner at home but I'm going to switch to Verizon to get espn360. I don't get why you guys seem to think that we are ENTITLED to get 360 (or any other content on the internet)for free. it's an added service that our web provider can offer to us. the way i see it, nothing good is for free people. if i'm going to pay someone for internet anyway, i'd rather pay someone who will give me espn360 included.
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Anonymous Fanatic #6
307 days ago
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For free is not the issue here. The issue is that ESPN has absolutely no right to discriminate against some because they happen to have service through the "wrong" ISP.
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Anonymous Fanatic #9
810 days ago
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The sad part about this, is that this is the model that is fast approaching many markets on the internet. Providers need content, and with the latest technology, you can get full screen video with no stalls or buffering provided you have at least 300kps available. What people may not realize is the the ISP's are looking for IPTV's to offer more content for their viewers, and the ISP's are willing to pay for this. The IPTV's offering the better content programming will be the driving force the next few years. It is estimated that the IPTV industry will generate 15 to 20 billion dollars in revenue, so this model looks like it is here to stay.
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Anonymous Fanatic #10
737 days ago
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I have AOL broadband Not Roadrunner so I should get 360 but because I give a zip code that has roadrunner I can't get 360 yet
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Anonymous Fanatic #10
735 days ago
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I'm at my office unable to get Gonzaga v. Texas Tech on ESPN360 --- what a joke. I came from my house which has Time Warner to my office which has AT&T and still can't get it. I won't be trying to connect to ESPN360 again --- ever!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
735 days ago
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What is ESPN 360? (I'm not playing Jeopardy!, I'm serious!)
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Anonymous Fanatic #11
734 days ago
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espn360 is a internet TV, basicall a program/website that you can watch certain tv shows on. for espn, is is sports that are big enough for people to have an interest in them, but not enough for them to put in on tv. this article is BS in my opinion because it is no different that normal espn on your tv. you have to pay a cable or satellite provider for access to espn, espn2, espnU, etc, this is no different. most internet tv are scams, getting you to pay for them and then showing you nothing but porn ads. espn 360 tells you what they are going to have and then true to form shows it, some advertising in it, no different than any other TV. when you think abotu their type of television it makes sense for them to only provide to internet providers that are ready for it. For instance, were they to show a Lakers game, then they would have massive bandwidth taken in the Los Angeles area putting a strain on the ISPs there, so is better to partner with them and let them be ready for it if they are willing to partake.
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Anonymous Fanatic #12
625 days ago
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what do you expect they are owned by disney
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Anonymous Fanatic #13
525 days ago
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NO, they're owned by ABC which was bought by Capital Cities Communications, which was bought by Walt Disney.
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Anonymous Fanatic #14
624 days ago
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When did Gregg Easterbrook get fired? He was still writing his TMQ column a week or two after the '08 Super Bowl! Was he rehired? What were the comments he made?
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Anonymous Fanatic #15
533 days ago
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Love this article. None of the ISPs are in my area (Denver) so I'm just SOL. It would be interesting to find out just how much $ they are missing out on, and how much they currently are getting from the few ISPs that are signed up with them.
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Anonymous Fanatic #16
501 days ago
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ESPN sucks. So corporate, so evil. I remember when ESPN was cutting edge. Now it's basically the "phone company."
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Anonymous Fanatic #17
498 days ago
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All of you A holes need to shut up. In a free capitalist society a company can charge for product content if they choose. Get a better ISP.
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JuTMSY4Legend
498 days ago
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get a better isp

you're right, i should switch to comcast...or comcast...

fuck that...how about comcast?
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SSreportersLegend
497 days ago
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JuT, watch your mouth, you said the C word.


C****st is better.
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Anonymous Fanatic #18
453 days ago
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Lots of idiots posting anonymously who have no concept of why network neutrality is an issue. The internet is not like television. The internet I get from one ISP is the same as the next and any limitation is artificial. Verizon is just as evil here as ESPN, because you can't have one without the other. I wouldn't mind paying for the service, but I shouldn't have to switch my provider (which 90% of the cases in the US is not an option) in order to access a particular website. What if NBC decided to partner with Time Warner for restricting Olympic broadcasts? Some of these idiots posting defending this shit would have you subscribe to an additional ISP everytime you needed access to a service such as ESPN360. This isn't TV where there are only so many channels, the internet has billions of web sites and hundreds of thousands of services; you can throw up your own and it's accessible anywhere someone has an internet connection (unless you reside in communist China). The people who don't understand why net neutrality is important to preserve are either very naive or just flat out ignorant.
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Anonymous Fanatic #19
365 days ago
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Brilliant post. There are alot of people on here who don't seem to get the fact that alot of us already do pay for access to alot of individual websites for content. I pay for MLSnet's seasonal game package. I pay for ESPN Insider. And I would have no problem paying for access to ESPN360. I DO have a problem with ESPN trying to force all of my fellow Time Warner users to pay for a service that they did not sign up for and did not want. You should be able to access any service on any ISP bc if we come to a time when your ISP payed each of the millions of websites that currently charge individual customers for their content, you would go broke trying to pay what would then be the service fees.
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Anonymous Fanatic #20
343 days ago
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For the idiot who said that cox wanted to charge extra for ESPN, you were totally wrong. ESPN wanted to hike the rates 25% that they charged Cox for their broadcast. Cox came back and said if they did that, they would seperate ESPN from their line up and only have those that want it pay for it. This would have been a huge loss of revenue for ESPN because they charge per Cox customer that has access to ESPN. So, they backed down and agreed to a much smaller increase. Cox used that strategy to KEEP espn as part of their expanded basic lineup. Dont spout off junk unless you know what you are talking about. And is it any surprise that Cox is one of the ISP's that do not have access to ESPN360? Thats such a lame ass attempt to get even more money. I think the ISP's should sue ESPN for equal access.
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Anonymous Fanatic #21
315 days ago
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On any type of non digital package, espn is the most expensive channel you pay for. If we really want to send a message, we need to require all pay tv channels be al-a-cart. But it will never happen because those companies will lien the pocket of who ever. To keep that from happening. We shouldn't be paying for channels that we don't want. Just like i don't want lifetime, or nickelodeon, or cmt. The ability for customer to choose there own channels. IS what should decide what comes on tv and what doesn't and it will keep the prices low and from being cheated. I like espn just for the sport but they have grown into your local neighborhood douche bag.
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Anonymous Fanatic #22
289 days ago
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Asking me to choose DSL over cable is like asking me to walk instead of drive. DSL speeds are greatly inferior to cable here in the south. Stability is also a major issue with DSL. ESPN choosing to partner with a company that uses DSL over cable and than charge providers is a highly ignorant and unprofessional business decision.
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Anonymous Fanatic #23
286 days ago
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I agree, this is a stupid thing for ESPN to do.... However, this is the internet and there shouldn't be regulations on it. If ESPN wants to limit their subscribers to one ISP then that is fine, let them.
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Anonymous Fanatic #24
242 days ago
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recently ESPN had me do a survey about this topic. If I want to watch ESPN 360 I go on campus because I would never change ISP just for one station. they mentioned many other live streaming sports sites and I wish I had them available but. . .The most occurring question they asked was do I watch sports online and would I switch to even dropping cable/satellite to watching TV from the internet only. I like having the access to TV from any computer, however the new concern that is being raised is how to stop piracy COX is one of the companies that has been thinking of charging for higher speed data (limewire, Napster) or slowing down connection speeds for people "hogging" all the bandwidth. This point is not to defend ESPN I hate this idea and I will see if I can write down and repost those sites that are on all ISPs.
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Anonymous Fanatic #24
241 days ago
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jumptv.com, willow.tv, setantasports.com, skysports.com, Uefa.com, yahoo, fox sports, mediazone.com, wcsn.com, joost.com
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Anonymous Fanatic #25
185 days ago
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This article is the most ignorant piece of drivel that I've read in a long time. MSOs pay Cable Nets a great deal of money for "exclusive" access to content. In return Cable Nets don't give it away for free online. Secondly, your understanding of Net Neutraility is way off the mark. Net Neutrality is more about ISPs not throttling speed to the end-user which ultimately does not incent ISPs to provide faster service. Why put more bandwidth out there for little return?
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Anonymous Fanatic #26
92 days ago
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It appears reports of ESPN360's death have been greatly exaggerated.
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Anonymous Fanatic #27
41 days ago
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Sadly only two years after this was written ESPN360 has 40% of the U.S. market place. The internet will be very similar to cable in the future...especially when it comes to streaming media.
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