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Dice Baseball

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by user Manny Stiles

Back in the days before the Commodore64, young children everywhere (segue way) yearned for the chance to imagine, play various forms of baseball and play games with dice. Yes, long before Playstation 3, segways and self-parking cars, kids played games like "Life", "Stratego", "Risk" and "Sorry!" and some good board games, I mean 'bored games' too!! (Like Chutes and Ladders, Crush the Nearest Bug and C-4: Play More with Claymore!

From all of this play came viruses (for the Commodore64, sicko!), dice baseball and for the kids too cool to play dice baseball, parenthood!

I didn't have a computer because I was poor, so I played dice baseball... (roll soundtrack - voice over - "What's that last sound you hear before the dice hit the table?" dramatic pause.... "clack, clack"... bitches!)

Yes, before I learned of 10 and 12 sided dies (I'm really not a D&D kinda guy) and other games like APBA or Pursue the Pennant (I did play my share of seasons of PTP) I took two dice of different colors (Or two similarly colored dice and a marking tool), a little bit of probability factors, a piece of paper, a pen and a fartload of imagination and suddenly I was a league commissioner/tyrant that eliminated franchises to be mean such as the Louisville Slugs (cheap owner couldn't buy the whole word for the unis) and New Orleans Bearded Clams (moved the franchise because the logo was a crawdad claw, it made no sense).

Basically it goes like this: Two different colored dice, one color counts for the first column, the second color (get this) represents the second column. Roll dice, read chart, play baseball....

  • 1-1 HR
  • 1-2 deep fly out (SF)
  • 1-3 BB
  • 1-4 SINGLE
  • 1-5 line out
  • 1-6 K


  • 2-1 TRIPLE
  • 2-2 pop out
  • 2-3 ground out
  • 2-4 fly out
  • 2-5 K
  • 2-6 single


  • 3-1 SINGLE
  • 3-2 ground out
  • 3-3 pop out
  • 3-4 K
  • 3-5 ground out
  • 3-6 SINGLE


  • 4-1 SINGLE
  • 4-2 ground out (turn two)
  • 4-3 K
  • 4-4 pop out
  • 4-5 fly out
  • 4-6 DOUBLE


  • 5-1 SINGLE
  • 5-2 K
  • 5-3 ground out
  • 5-4 line out
  • 5-5 fly out
  • 5-6 DOUBLE


  • 6-1 K
  • 6-2 ground out
  • 6-3 BB
  • 6-4 ERROR CHART
  • 6-5 deep fly out(SF)
  • 6-6 HR


Notice, all K's are Sevens:prepare for a life of craps playing

ERROR CHART: (a second roll after rolling 6-4) 6-6 - HR 1-1 - Injury! Other team gets to make up your injury add dice together (3-11 is all nine positions) to determine whose error it was; but that's another chart

You can make 6-5 a WILDCARD play and make your own rules up! One time a player died in a game after he was stung by a bee running to firstbase on a single. (He was apparently allergic to the rare Southeastern Pennsylvania Inkblot Bee)

The point is, you get a totally random order that ends up having a league with lots of Home Runs (chicks dig the sixes) and K's, but you also bat 11-36 (.3055) if you hit all the outcomes once each. Change 1-4 to a ground out and the league bats 10-36 (.2777) and so on. You could custom tailor the chart to home and away, night and day, stregth of opponent's pitcher, random.... whatever!

This chart is for a DH league. Pitchers had their own charts (including bunting) for NL rules.

On a piece of paper (that's what kids played with back then), write the completely fabricated lineups (I liked having King Kelly catching, Paul Bunyan was a good first baseman, and while I loved U L, Jesus is one HELL of a shortstop), pick your Starting pitchers (Don't worry about how many pitches they throw, but change pitchers to shake up a hot roller)

You can make whole series play out in a matter of a handful of minutes. You could play a season in a few dedicated days! Once we even started a league that had 6 managers. I had the best record and lost to my buddy who went on a 40-2 freek run to sneak into his division title. Then beat me in seven games... Yes, I am still salty about that. Long Live the Bearded Clams!!!

I know I'm weird, but I never said I wasn't a dork.

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Davis21wylieMVP
1134 days ago
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Jeez, that takes me back... I created a dice baseball game back in middle school, too. Soon it was supplanted by "Calculator Baseball", which made use of the random number function and could include more possibilities. That way I could use real player stats to calculate the ranges (i.e., Kenny Lofton's probability of getting a walk was .000-.083, etc.) to make it more "realistic". Which is basically a signed confession that I'm a complete dork, really. As if that wasn't completely apparent already...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1134 days ago
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who said middle school? Random Number baseball was sweet too, but I would use it to make careers (the unreasonable kinds where guys would hit 73 homers in a season) ...of course Microleague and eventually Baseball Mogul took over and the dice are stuck in my Simpsonsopoly Game
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Davis21wylieMVP
1134 days ago
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It took me until middle school to find someone that was actually as geeky and baseball-obsessed as myself to actually play it with. And, yeah, I did careers too. Another signed confession.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1133 days ago
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I taught probably 50 people through out my life about this game (I learned it from an older kid who ended up being a pro bowler!) The difference between dice and random numbers is the dice can be used in two ways, as one then the other 1-6, or together as a sum 2-12. Plus there's the action of throwing the dice, waving magic pixie dust on the dice and then rolling 4 HRs in a row... Funny thing is, I played THOUSANDS of games of baseball and I can still remember the smell of Lou Gehrig hitting 5 HRs for the Seattle Slugs (after the cheap owner moved them from Louisville he stocked up on free agents and won the WS) in one game from upon my back porch. Albert Belle and Pete Incaviglia also hit 5 in one game (Inky's was in World Series Game 6 after the multi-manager 162 game season!) Needless to say, I basically refused to do homework but would stay up all night playing imaginary baseball
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Davis21wylieMVP
1133 days ago
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More heated than Dice Baseball was Dice Basketball, which I played throughout high school study halls. The 2004 Pistons-Lakers Finals was effectively predicted 2 months earlier in the SHDBL (Study Hall Dice Basketball League). The MVP: Chauncey Billups, whose last-second 3 (you had to roll a 1 or a 6 to make a three-pointer, and he nailed a 6) won Game 3 (it was best 2-of-3) and cemented Detroit's legacy forever. Dice hoops was also good in the fact that you could have Sheed moments (throwing the dice too hard off the game board, throwing the dice at your opponent, etc.) and get T'd up. Good times...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1133 days ago
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Oh, I played dice basketball, dice football, dice hockey, dice water polo... but none had the charm of the clockless game... (dice tennis was tough and dice golf is just stupid)
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DNLLegend
1133 days ago
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We definitely need dice basketball rules.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1132 days ago
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Hell, I don't really remember any of those too well... There was one sytem where you could 'call plays' offensively by rolling one die 1-PG, 2-SG, 3-SF, 4-PF, 5-C and 6 was a turnover, then each position had a chart like the baseball chart one die, then the other... but it didn't flow like baseball... (If you've played enough parcheesi, you realize it's basically a simplified version of baseball)
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PnattRed-Shirting
1134 days ago
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my pic was just as good.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1134 days ago
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for another article, maybe. the game is played with 2 different colored dice. Winners of every game are Dice Baseball World Champions!
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DNLLegend
1133 days ago
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If someone wants to make this into a flash game -- it's well beyond my talents -- we can host the file here and make it embed-able.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1133 days ago
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It's still a game based on luck, but if you did it basing a real player's stats on the probability, it would work. It sounds good though!
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DNLLegend
1133 days ago
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You could probably do something like agree to lineup characteristics. For example, let's say you wanted to tailor your leadoff hitter so that he got lots of hits but had no power. You could agree that his doubles would be singles and his homers would be doubles, but 4-2 and 4-3 were also singles. And you could easily add stealing -- a 1-x would be a stolen base, (x+1)-6 a caught stealing. For added complexity, make a 1 not just a stolen base, but require a re-roll, and on another 1, the ball goes into the outfield and the runner takes an extra base. Heck, you could pretty easily make player cards which do nothing but adapt Manny's table.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1133 days ago
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Are you volunteering!? :)
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1133 days ago
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I like the generic rules for all players. You'd be surprised how players on a piece of paper translate similarly to what would be considered "real"... (other than Pete Incaviglia - He was put into the Dice Baseball Hall of Fame YEARS ago!!! (Albert Belle is in there on his 1993 season alone! WOW!!!) of course, I play solitaire with tarot cards...
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DNLLegend
1133 days ago
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No, I'm not volunteering.  :) But this is a wiki, and would be a really cool project. Kinda like oversimplified Strat-o-Matic.


And I think it's honestly more interesting if you bargain for changes. For example, I could say "I want to give my cleanup hitter more powers. If you let me make two of his doubles into homers, two of his singles into doubles, and two of his flyouts into sac flies, I'll make two other singles into strikeouts and two groundouts into double plays." You could say "Okay, but make it one single into a double."
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1133 days ago
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damn, dude I started playing this game when I was like 6-7 years old!!! The I became a traditionalist and rarely tinkered with the formulas.
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The sharkDraft Pick
1132 days ago
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I'm a "Strat-O-Matic Addict"! It's more intersting (for accuracy's sake) and more fun (for stat geeks) Every player his own card which reflects (fairly accurately) his production from the previous season. For example, I played a 162-game season with the 2003 cards. Javy Lopez led the league with 55 bombs. Of course I played him in 143 games (2.6%). His real stats were 43 dingers in 129 games (3.0%). Incidentally, Pujols garnered a league best 139 RBI. Juan Pierre stole an MLB-record 146 bases and Jim Edmonds struck out an MLB-record 200 times.
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TobysellsTee-Baller
1132 days ago
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Amen to Strat! I used to "play" with baseball cards having pretend games with dice or pieces of paper in a hat. Whatever, my young mind could conjure up. But as a junior in high school, I was introduced to Strat -- and all my childhood "gameS" dissapeared.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1132 days ago
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whatever... you still play.
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The sharkDraft Pick
1132 days ago
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Manny - Your formula lacks a HBP!
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
1132 days ago
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You're right - I was recalling it as best I could from memory.... you could change one of the outcomes to hbp; the fly to grounder ratio is probably all screwed up... The key to dice baseball was it was easy and FAST - I didn't even need a chart (had it memorized), just paper, a pen and two dice and I had a season done in a few days (or less)
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1132 days ago
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Hey Anon, I'll do it... YOU can't even log in, jerk!
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The sharkDraft Pick
1132 days ago
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If anybody figures out a way to play simulated baseball games here, I'm IN!
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Bobbyjim45Draft Pick
1132 days ago
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Me too, that would be pretty awesome.
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DNLLegend
1132 days ago
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Looks like we need to find a programmer not named Pean!
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
1132 days ago
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Maybe we could have a Showdown where 2 managers put a lineup out there to battle eash other in the Mga-ultrasuper-scientific method of dice baseball and I'll run the "simulation/announcing" (fair and honest outcome) - if we all get together at the same time we could have a game done easily in a short time... and declare a ACGM Dice Baseball World Champion!!!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1132 days ago
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I agree with that witty and handsome Anon #1...
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DNLLegend
1132 days ago
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Manny/Anon#1 -- that'd be really cool. What do I need to do, come up w/names of 9 guys? :)
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1132 days ago
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exactly! Make your 'secret lineup' of nine players one for each position and also I play WITH DH rules, so you need a DH. Also name two reserves and two relief pitchers AND a closer. 15 players altogether!!! We'll do it showdown style!
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PnattRed-Shirting
1132 days ago
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Who cares about baseball? It's the off season! Football is better.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1132 days ago
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How 'bout this? the 2006 ACGM Dice Baseball Championship Single elmination tournament?
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The sharkDraft Pick
1132 days ago
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I'm IN! Did I already say that?
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Davis21wylieMVP
1111 days ago
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