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Debunking the McGwire Myth

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by Tmizzle

Mark McGwire hit a lot of home runs in his career. Everybody knows this. However, I've heard people argue that McGwire was only capable of creating home runs and steroids scandals, and that his numbers don't warrant the Hall of Fame honor, regardless of steroids. I hear, "It doesn't matter that he took steroids, all he was good for was home runs." I think that's just crazy talk.

This is what Bill James says about McGwire, in his Historical Baseball Abstract: "...about 55% of McGwire's career value is accounted for by his home runs, a high figure, but not as high as players like Dave Kingman and Steve Balboni. McGwire does other things well, other than hit home runs."

Mr. James ranks McGwire #3 among first basemen in his player ratings, so he holds McGwire's contributions in high regard.

A caveat: Mr. James's almanac was published in 2001, so his analysis of McGwire's career does not include the 2005 Congressional hearing fiasco, the subsequent fallout, McGwire becoming a pariah and an outcast, and his paltry Hall of Fame voting total of 23.5%.

I'm not here to discuss the past. Well, actually, I am here to do that. But I'm not here to debate whether or not McGwire took steroids (looks like he did) or how much of his power was derived from steroids (impossible to tell). What I'm here to do is determine, based on the numbers, whether or not he belongs in the Hall of Fame.

In 1998, McGwire hit 70 home runs. Every baseball fan remembers #62 and most people remember #70. But does anybody remember #162? That was the number of walks McGwire drew, and until Barry Bonds became the the King of the Intentional Walk, McGwire's 1998 season was the 2nd-highest total of bases on balls ever, after Babe Ruth's 1923 total of 170. Even after the astronomical BB numbers that Barry Bonds had put up, McGwire's 162 remains tied for the 5th-best single season walk total of all time.

His 1998 season was one of the best ever put up: a career-high .299 BA, the 70 HR, 147 RBI, the .470 OBP, an astronomical 1.222 OPS (16th-best all time, and one of only three people in that top-16 not named Ruth, Bonds, or Williams), and 1 stolen base in 1 chance (100% success rate, best of all-time). That is an all-time great season.

One of the main criticisms of McGwire is that his career batting average (.263) means that he doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame. Looking it up, only six players from the Live Ball Era (post-1920) who are currently in the Hall of Fame posted lower batting averages than McGwire, which would lend credence to that theory.

Little tangent here: the six Hall of Famers mentioned above were Harmon Killebrew (.256), Bill Mazeroski (.260), and Gary Carter, Ozzie Smith, Reggie Jackson, and Luis Aparicio, who all oddly enough had career averages of .262. Carter was a catcher, Smith was a defensive wizard (the wizard pun is a little cheesy, I know, but I couldn't help it), Jackson gets in on his HR and RBI numbers (563 and 1702, respectively), and I really can't explain what Aparicio is doing in there. That just baffles me. Bill Mazeroski is in because of his walk-off home run in the 1960 World Series, and that's just about it (I mean, come on, he had a .299 OBP!). Ok, I'm done with that rant. I'll come back to Harmon Killebrew in a minute.

As I was saying, McGwire's low batting average would seem to count against him. However, I think the fact that his batting average was so low made his OBP so much more impressive. His career OBP was .394, which was 131 points higher than his batting average. During seasons in which he played in more than 100 games, he drew an average of 102 walks per season. I don't know about you, but that's a pretty good total to me.

Now back to Harmon Killebrew: When he retired, his 573 home runs were good for fifth on the all-time list, behind only Hank Aaron, Ruth, Willie Mays, and Frank Robinson. His batting average is 120 points lower than his OBP, much like McGwire. When McGwire retired with 583 home runs, his total was good for sixth, leaving him ten home runs ahead of Killebrew for career home runs.
Despite the fact that McGwire played for only 16 seasons, and Killebrew played for 22, their numbers are very similar. I've never heard anyone say that Killebrew doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame. If you just look at the numbers, I don't think that anyone can argue McGwire doesn't also belong there.

I honestly don't believe McGwire will be voted into the Hall of Fame, and I personally think that's the right call for the folks in Cooperstown. There's a high probability that he used steroids, and they helped him to hit the 583 home runs. If you want to argue that McGwire doesn't belong in the Hall because of steroid use, that's fine. But if you want to argue McGwire should be kept out because his numbers weren't good enough, that's ridiculous and I will flick you in the ear.


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HappyskinnyAll-American
844 days ago
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I'm not sure what your point is in comparing him to Dave Kingman and Steve Balboni in your second paragraph, as neither of those guys are in the Hall of Fame.
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Tmil42AAA-er
844 days ago
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I was trying to show that I wasn't the only one who thought McGwire was more than just home runs, unlike Kingman and Balboni. Bill James agrees with me, or it's probably better to say, I agree with Bill James.
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HappyskinnyAll-American
844 days ago
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I realize that, but it would have helped your argument if those two guys were actually in the hall with a high percentage of their value coming from home runs. When you said that, its like lumping him in with them.
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Tmil42AAA-er
844 days ago
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Reading it over, yes, I see your point. It was probably an unnecessary quote, but I do enjoy reading Bill James, and I wanted to include him in this somehow. Reading his historical abstract was what gave me the idea for this article.
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RomiezzoLegend
844 days ago
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To support your argument better, mention Harmon Killebrew. 573 HRs, but only 2086 hits, a .256 AVG, and only 100+ RBIs more than McGwire.
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HappyskinnyAll-American
844 days ago
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Yeah your right, the Historical Baseball Abstract is awesome. Its great just to have that lying around when talking about sports with somebody.
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Silencer76AAA-er
844 days ago
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And the Cards went nowhere in 98. Hence why the MVP went to Sosa, who went neck and neck with McGwire all season long, eventually getting Chicago in the playoffs. Yes, McGwire had an OPS of 1.222, he walked 162 times, and he struck out 155. Sosa didn't walk nearly as much, yet his OPS was 1.024, he fell just two hits shy of 200 on the year, slammed 66 homers, drove in 158, stole 18 bases, scored 134 runs and batted .308. McGwire was known for the long ball. He won ONE Gold Glove, back in 1990, batted just .217 in postseason play, and in his final two seasons in STL, 61 of his 127 hits over the span were homers, as opposed to 12 doubles, no triples, and 54 singles. He hit .187 in 2001 before giving it up for good.
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Brendan.CanneyDiv-I Stud
844 days ago
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The fact that McGwire even won one Gold Glove surprises me.
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Twins15Varsity Captain
844 days ago
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Exactly... McGwire was a really good hitter that did a lot of things well at the plate. The fact that he hit a lot of HR overshadows some of his other hitting virtues doesn't mean he wasn't a solid all-around hitter.
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HappyskinnyAll-American
844 days ago
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Well from this article though, all it really shows is that he hit a lot of home runs, and walked a lot. Unless I'm missing something.
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RomiezzoLegend
844 days ago
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And also that he doesn't belong in the hall of fame, like Kingman and Balboni. Unless I'M missing something...
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Twins15Varsity Captain
844 days ago
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He doesn't belong in the HOF? Then what 1B do? Unless you're going to punish him for taking some substances that may or may not have been illegal, he is one of the best power-hitters ever and got on base at a great rate. His OPS+ (which adjusts for league and ballpark) is 11th all-time. That doesn't make him worthy of the Hall?
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Brendan.CanneyDiv-I Stud
844 days ago
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McGwire would join Pete Browning and Dave Orr as the only 2 players (excluding active major leaguer Frank Thomas) to be in the top 20 in OPS+ and not be in the Hall Of Fame.
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HappyskinnyAll-American
844 days ago
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How about Jimmie Foxx, Lou Gehrig, George Sisler, Eddie Murray, Hank Greenberg. Do you think McGwire belongs with the likes of those guys? I sure don't.
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Twins15Varsity Captain
844 days ago
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Certainly not with Gehrig and Foxx, the 2 best 1B ever. I would probably take McGwire over Sisler (not knowing anything about Sisler's defense). Murray's longevity was nice but I'd certainly take McGwire's peak over Murray's. Greenberg is tough... he was a great hitter but didn't play that long.
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HappyskinnyAll-American
844 days ago
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You can't honestly tell me you would have to think about who you would rather have on your team, Greenberg or McGwire. Greenberg would have monster numbers if he didn't miss 4 years of his prime.
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Twins15Varsity Captain
844 days ago
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Greenberg's highest OPS+ was 174, and he was at the 170 level a few times. McGwire hit the 200 mark a few times. So in that case I'd probably take McGwire, though it's tough to say since Greenberg did in fact miss a few years. But I will say that Greenberg never came all that close to matching McGwire's 1996 or the famous 1998 season.
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HappyskinnyAll-American
844 days ago
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Actually Greenberg not only came close, but had a better year than McGwires 1996 season. In 1938 Greenberg his .315 with 58 home runs, 146 RBI, 1.121 OPS, 144 runs scored and 175 hits. Compare that with McGwire's '96 where he hit .312, 52 homers, 113 RBI, 1.212 OPS, 104 runs scored, and only 132 hits. Greenberg's year was definitely better, in fact, you could say its pretty close to his 1998 season as well.
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Twins15Varsity Captain
844 days ago
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1938 Park Adjusted League OPS - .813

1996 PA League OPS - .782 1998 PA League OPS - .761

On raw numbers, Greenberg's might be better. Relative to the League, I'd go with McGwire. The 30s were pretty kind to hitters.

Either way, both guys deserve to be HOFers. Greenberg is rightfully there, and McGwire should be there.
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HappyskinnyAll-American
844 days ago
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Alright, I think we can leave it at that. Nice argument, but I gotta hit the sack.
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RomiezzoLegend
844 days ago
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To Twins15: I didn't say that he doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame. I'm saying that's what I understand from what I read...
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Brendan.CanneyDiv-I Stud
844 days ago
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Bill and Luis both are Hall of Famers because of their defense. Luis Aparicio was a great defensive SS (9 Gold Gloves / 3rd behind Omar Vizquel and of course Ozzie Smith) and perennial All Star. Bill Mazeroski was one of the best defensive 2nd baseman of all time with 8 Gold Gloves (3rd behind Roberto Alomar and Ryne Sandberg) and also a perennial all star.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
844 days ago
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Very good article...Now I even question how McGwire hit 49 home runs in his rookie season.
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OurmanflintSoccer Kid
844 days ago
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For the same reason Barry Bonds was a HOF player in the late '80s - both had the natural talent to be HOFers BEFORE they started juicing.
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AngeHammJV Squad
844 days ago
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Lots of guys are taking steroids. Not all of them are hitting 70 home runs in a season. There is a LOT of skill involved. And pitchers are taking steroids, too...
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KelsdadAll-Star
844 days ago
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Be careful saying you agree with Bill James, because he's an idiot.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
842 days ago
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If you're going to "debunk myths", try using a better "format"
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