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Could it be that losing Giambi was the best thing that ever happened to the Yankees?

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by user Saddleshoe

A couple of days ago, Joel Sherman wrote in the NY Post that the most that the Yankees could realistically do to change their lineup would be to add to their bench. Few of the players on the team could be realistically moved because of no trade clauses and their individual states of disrepair.

I thought about this. I can't remember where I also read that someone, I think on ArmchairGM, wrote of missing our bench player, Aaron Guiel, who always seemed to come through in a clutch. So many of our games last year were won by the bench. Over in Flushing, Endy Chavez, a bench player, has been central to the Mets' success.

Interestingly, when Jason Giambi went on the DL, our offense was suddenly energized. Melky Cabrera, a bench player, was told he would play every day. Last year, when he played every day, he was a significant spark in our offense. Kevin Thompson was brought up from the minors to relieve Matsui occasionally. Damon was placed in the position of DH.

And suddenly the team found their bats.

I don't think it's a coincidence. The team has needed a serious shake-up, and the addition of any blood, but especially HUNGRY young blood did not hurt. Moreover, it gave Torre a chance to look at the team differently. In Toronto he played Damon and Giambi almost on a dare to see which one would fall apart first. He finally wanted to see who he had to pull from the lineup. He got his answer, although Giambi hit a homerun that night. One homerun does not consistency make and consistency is what we have needed.

This year, like last year, I think that our bench will be as much a part of our winning as any. Pulling Melky off of it will hopefully be as helpful as it was last year. I don't know if Kevin Thompson is all we want on it, but I think the shifts we are seeing in Boston bode well for, at least, a decent season to watch.



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JoshkrossDraft Pick
914 days ago
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No. He was going to be traded to improve the team. The injury costs them whoever the would have received (likely from the Angels). Oh, and even with out the trade, NO. A serious shakeup would have been Giambi being benched. Injuries don't shake up a team.
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KelsdadAll-Star
913 days ago
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Who was going to be traded, Giambi? I don't think so.
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DNLLegend
913 days ago
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There's no way Giambi would be traded. First, the steroids problem -- and the potential suspension -- means that you may be trading for a sack of nothings. Second, his salary is too high for a guy who has been embattled by injuries. Third, there's no way George and Cashman would do anything that remotely looks like a white flag.
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
912 days ago
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"

Halo effect? May 22 - The Angels may have an interest in acquiring Jason Giambi to bolster their lineup, The New York Post reports.

While MLB continues to look into Giambi's quotes last week in which he all but admitted steroid use, the Yankees are waiting on MLB's findings before deciding if they can void the rest of Giambi's $120 million contract that runs through next season. There is an option for $22 million that won't be picked up, but the Yanks are on the hook for $41.75 million.

The Angels' interest in Giambi was before the recent controversy surfaced. It's likely the Angels will wait to see what MLB does before pursuing a deal. If they do make an offer, the Yankees would have to listen. "

Was there interest in there? Sure"
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
914 days ago
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Yeah, now if the pitching staff goes to the DL and they start to win, you'll be on to something! Go Devil Rays!
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SaddleshoeJV Squad
913 days ago
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Such comments from the fan of a team that is continually re-shifting due to injuries (METS) and one that would be LUCKY if its pitching staff went on the DL. There have to be better pitchers than anyone on the Devil Rays besides Scott Kazmir.
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JuTMSY4Legend
913 days ago
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James Shields comes to mind...
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
912 days ago
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What does that have to do with my comments? Injuries are unfortunate and change the lineup, but they don't "shake up" any body. Giambi's injury isn't going to unify the clubhouse. or rally them. The injuries on the Mets certainly haven't.
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JuTMSY4Legend
912 days ago
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But isn't the fact that the mets have coped with injuries a testement to their ability...that fact that perez, maine, hernandez and co are pitching effectively is what you want when you have injuries...they're not great by any means, but they're effective and get the job done...that's what you want out of guys who take those spots...
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SaddleshoeJV Squad
913 days ago
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I'll give you Shields.
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SaddleshoeJV Squad
912 days ago
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We're being literal about "shake up" here. All I meant was, adapting to the loss of Giambi seems to have brought out strengths we didn't think we had.
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JuTMSY4Legend
912 days ago
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like doug mientkevicz's head...
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
911 days ago
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I think we all knew the Yankees players could hit. What skill that they "didn't have" has magically appeared? Nothing. You just forgot you have a roster full of all-stars that started to play like it. Did Jeter suddenly show you he could juggle 4 of Giambi's syringes while wiping A-rod's tears awy with a bitch-towel? THAT would be something NEW.
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SaddleshoeJV Squad
912 days ago
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Okay, give me a break. We can all see the team is hitting better than it was. I think Melky is hitting because he knows he has a position for a while. The Mets have shown their strengths because they have had to. But enough. The idea of the piece was to note the coincidence and to wonder if the change forced people to step up. There's no question that it did.
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
911 days ago
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There certainly IS a question that it did. I question it. My Boss, a Yankees fan, thinks you are crazy. Do you really think the team is hitting better because Giambi got hurt? Or maybe because they just are finally hitting like they usually do?
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JuTMSY4Legend
911 days ago
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Well, it your credit, By virtue of Johnny Damon moving to DH (and maybe 1st) and Giambi being out, yes Melky Cabrera is getting more ABs and yes that helps him get into the preverbial "Swing of things" But, with that said, is losing the giambino's bat for for Cabrera's bat really worth it? I don't think so...maybe Cabrera is playing better now, but few would argue that, from what we've seen of Cabrera, he's better than a healthy giambi...
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SaddleshoeJV Squad
912 days ago
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Check out this article which suggests much the same thing http://www.b...dnFlZUVFeXk2
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
911 days ago
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The article is mostly citing his poor performance. SO yes, removing a poorly playing player might improve a team.
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