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Can't We Just Get Rid of Batting Average?

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by Ibearg

Now I know the traditionalists among us (read those over the age over 45) may object, but I propose getting rid of batting average. In fantasy baseball and especially in real life. We shouldn't even bother to measure it. What prompts this… is it the books I’ve read on sabermetrics, or some profound breakthrough I’ve had? Nope, it’s just a stupid statement about Brad Lidge by Jayson Stark. He says in 2005, Lidge was considered the best closer in baseball and in 2007 he was a bust, but his stats aren’t all that different. He cites opponents batting average which was higher in 2005 than 2007. That’s great, but all that shows is that the stat itself it means nothing.

Here are Lidge’s stats for 2005 and 2007.


Stat 2005 2007
ERA 2.29 3.36
SV 42 19
BLSV 4 8
K/9 13.12 11.82
K/BB 4.48 2.93
AVG .223 .219
OBP .293 .312
SLG .323 .409
OPS .612 .716
HR 5 9

You’ll notice the only stat that was better for Lidge in 2005 was avg. and if we can all agree average is all but meaningless it’ll be easy to tell why Lidge was considered a bust in 2007. He struck out fewer people, he allowed more base runners, and he allowed a greater percentage of bases on those base hits. Now would he have been considered as big of a bust if his 2006 season wasn’t so awful (to the tune of an over 5 era)? Maybe not. However it’s clear that blowing 8 saves in 27 opportunities, almost 1/3 of your saves, is not good. Neither were any of his other stats compared to his 2005 season.

Lidge is just one case study on the pitching side of how little batting average matters. I could go on about how OBP and slugging are such better measures for hitters as well, but I think we’ve all heard those arguments. So isn’t it time we all agreed to get rid of batting average. After all, we’ve got computers nowadays; computing the other stats doesn’t need to be done with an abacus.


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IbeargRed-Shirting
733 days ago
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wow that table definitely did not work...
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TylersaltAll-Star
733 days ago
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Salty to the rescue! Fixed.
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DNLLegend
732 days ago
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Missed a |- though :)
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TylersaltAll-Star
732 days ago
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did I? where was it?
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KelsdadAll-Star
733 days ago
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Hurt yourself patting yourself on the back, did ya?
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WizardmanRed-Shirting
732 days ago
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So.. Lidge was better in '05 than '07, and because the batting average is higher in '07 it doesn't work? Actually that tells us a lot; this means that perhaps Lidge gave up far more BIG hits in '07 than '05, hence why the average was lower.
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DNLLegend
732 days ago
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Other stats can do that. For example, why not do XBH/AB? Doesn't that make more sense than comparing SLG to SLG and then BA to BA to see if, well, he's given up an increasing # of XBH/AB?
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TylersaltAll-Star
732 days ago
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what about TB+W/PA?
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TylersaltAll-Star
732 days ago
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on-base percentage against is a much better metric.
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
732 days ago
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"There are lies, damned lies and statistics." - Mark Twain
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KelsdadAll-Star
732 days ago
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I thought Scott Boras said that?
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