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Breaking News! It's TOO easy to get your article promoted on ArmchairGM.com!

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by user Manny Stiles

Approximately 7 out of 10 opinions have no business being celebrated as 'Good Stuff' when clearly they are crap. The REALLY good stuff gets lost amongst the trash that makes me want to poke my eyes out with a Red Sox fan's pointy little head! Then that horrific dung gets voted on by users who clearly create multiple logons and vote for their own putrid garbage and regurgitated opinions in an attempt to validate their existence.

Hmmm... maybe it's time to raise the standards a bit. Over 700 users, but it only takes 1% of the votes to get promoted to Good Stuff? Then again, sometimes it seems only 1% of the users actually know a damned thing about sports...

In other news, people use the +/- in the opinion columns to show their opinion instead of using +/- to acknowledge the information provided.

Intelligent Users don't give a flying (I'll use Derek Jeter as an asimile for the 'F' word) about the 'rankings' or whether people will give us a minus if they can't tolerate our comments... That's why we put the comments there!

Everyone here seems to write because they dream of being one of the bonehead journalists we all read when we're not in here, hoping to get noticed as some super-cyber-sports journalists. Well, we need to work together to make that happen. Bring the 'A' game, boys!!!

If ArmchairGM.com is going to "take it to the next level", let's put the effort in, people. Try harder, back your opinion up with coherent thought, research the info before you splurt it out and write with absolute passion! If we all put forth our best efforts, not only will ArmchairGM.com be better off for it (and attract better and more deserved attention) but all of us will be better off for it too!

"Build it and they will come"... well, I say "build it better and they will come running!"

Date

Sun 07/02/06, 11:27 am EST


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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1268 days ago
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POs vary... At a weekend it is lower than in the week. Besides, I wouldn't mind saying that only 50 to 100 of those regularly use the site out of the 700. This is not too big a deal, just get over it. If your way is better, people will vote for your article, and it will be a PO too. Also, I think it's up to the user to decide how to use the +/-. No rule is in place about how to use each option.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
1268 days ago
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Manny does it again... I've only been here for 4 days, so pardon my ignorance and cheer my hopeful enthusiasm...of course, I have been writing about sports since before most of you have been reading...anyone want to start an over/under on when the 15 year-olds, brainwashed drones and posers band together and get me booted from this site?
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1268 days ago
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As a 16 year old, I think you are most welcome. Just remember to sign in next time you comment, or if you haven't signed up, do so!
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
1268 days ago
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Thanks Alex, regardless, I have fun... I just want to read as many great articles as I write!!!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1268 days ago
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Damn it!!! I keep forgetting to log in!!!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1268 days ago
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There you go, 2 +'s for responding quickly!
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1268 days ago
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:) Thanks!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1268 days ago
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People will get used to me in a few years, I suppose... Itry to educate AND entertain...I take sports seriously, but I also take sarcasm VERY SERIOUSLY (or do I?)
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RoblefkoLegend
1268 days ago
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We have raised the score level needed to get promoted recently. We started out at 8, now its 9. We lower it for the wekeend when there is less activity. You need to be patient, this site is relatively new (3 months old), and we (the founders) are still working on many of the kinks--such as figuring out the appropriate score to weed out the good articles from the bad--anyway, just keep on writing, and everythign will take care of itself!
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1268 days ago
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10 is a nice round number...
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
1268 days ago
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i tend to agree with manny. It really is too easy to get articles promoted. but without frequent promotion, the 'good stuff' gets stale very quickly. RobL is right on the money. This site is very new and it will take more users and a little more trial and error before we get it right.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1268 days ago
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Dude, I'm with ya... I'm not going to EVER stop writing... I just wanna stoke the fires, get people motivated to BRING IT!!! I'm trying to lead by example, Roble - check my articles - Manny is not run-of-the-mill and I won't regurgitate what I read on ESPN Insider... I have manny tricks yet to pull from my sleeve, and in all honesty... I DON'T care if you like my opinions, and I really DON'T CARE if I get promoted... But I got your attention with the header, right?
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1268 days ago
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I like that... "I have manny tricks yet to pull"
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1268 days ago
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AGAIN - I've been here for 4 days!!! Come along for the ride, we'll have fun together...I know what else you're reading out there, because I read it too... then I get bored and want more... I can't read my OWN posts all day, but I can rile up some chumps and watch the comments and +/-'s fly!!! WooHoo!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1268 days ago
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Alex, I am starting to like you... not in that way (unless the $$$ is right, of course)
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1268 days ago
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Too far...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1268 days ago
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I write about a ton of things other than sports as well - if you wanna see what kind of sick puppy you all are dealing with, check www.kombol.blogspot.com or myspace/mannystiles
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XinophDraft Pick
1268 days ago
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First of all, this is an Opinion piece, not a News article. I realize this is a complex, mysterious difference to many people, but generally if it expresses an opinion, it's an Opinion article. If it's an unbiased retelling of the facts, then it's a News article. Furthermore, your little theory will only be proven if this Opinion itself is promoted.
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Awrigh01All-Star
1268 days ago
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I think the communal norms will start developing soon. I agree we should try to categorize things appropriately.
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XinophDraft Pick
1268 days ago
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The communal norms ahve already developed: opinions are Opinions, news is News. Pretty straightforward.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1268 days ago
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Xino, relax... First, I wrote this as a News piece on purpose, thirdly, It's called making a point, not 'following the rules of rigidity'. I nominate you for the "Opinion Police" go out there and make sure everyone has no fun!!!

I will make you think whether you are currently capable of it or not!!!

And yes, this is news to some!!!
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XinophDraft Pick
1268 days ago
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It was written as a News piece incorrectly and moved; the categories shouldn't be manipulated to make a point.
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XinophDraft Pick
1268 days ago
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We have two categories for a reason, Manny. If we didn't want opinions to be Opinions, and News to be News, we wouldn't bother having the categories. Calm down yourself; I was always calm, just doing my job as a user and an administrator to correct mistakes.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1268 days ago
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Also note, from now on I will give a '+' to anyone who responds to my article, even if I did forget to login first!!!
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Awrigh01All-Star
1268 days ago
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I am also one of the co-founders. One of the reason people like Blogs (especically very popular ones) is because they are updated frequently. If you go to a site like Deadspin/Baseball Musings they will put up about 25 new posts/articles per day. Right now we are averaging about 35 articles per day. We suspect that this number will grow as the site gets larger. Once we get 50-60 articles we will increase the score to make sure that 25-30 articles make it to the good stuff. Once we get 70-80 articles, we will do the same so that we maintain 25-30 new articles getting published to good stuff everyday. That way the voting/commenting feature works as a filter for the best stuff we have currently being produced by fans like you. The more stuff produced, the more the filter work.
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CurlyWTee-Baller
1268 days ago
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To the founders: I'm pretty new here too, but I have a suggestion: instead of/in addition to listing individual articles based on rank, why not give preference to higher -ranked writers? In other words, if a particular user's articles average a 10, they should get featured more prominently than a less-skilled writer.

This way you'll reward consistency and keep the better writing at the forefront of the site. And users who are not at the forefront of the site will have incentive to improve their stuff to get there!

My $0.02.
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JuTMSY4Legend
1268 days ago
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I think that made sense!
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JuTMSY4Legend
1268 days ago
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Although, i do get made when i see one paragraph opinion articles getting promoted because the topic gets a ton of comments and a few people vote. If you're going to try to write something, at least make it worthy of reading and not a snipit of info and opinion...whatever, i just try to put stuff down on paper that i think is entertaining...hopefully i'll have another good one tomorrow...
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DrpatriotAll-American
1268 days ago
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Based on your responses to my opinion about Ricky Williams, it is pretty obvious that you are talking to me (and some others) in this thread. I would like the chance to defend myself from these accusations. Assuming something like I (or others) "clearly logged on to alternate screen names and voted for their own putrid garbage" angers me greatly, especially because I was just posting an opinion. After looking back on the post, I can agree that it was lacking in substance. However, the post got more votes than either of my reports on the first and second rounds of the NFL draft (click my name to see them, you will find them to be full of information and well-thought-out yet relatively voteless). The votes for the Ricky Williams article probably came from people who agreed with the article, which I still believe has a point despite its relative lack of substance, not from myself. Making this accusation without backing it up with coherent thought, as you said I (and others) should do with opinions in the paragraphs above, is neither helpful nor beneficial to the environment of ArmchairGM. That said, I agree that much of the content of the "good" section is not actually any good, and there should clearly be some better way of filtering these articles.
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JuTMSY4Legend
1268 days ago
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I can also see the admin's point. They want the "good stuff" to cycle relatively quickly. It is at least my hope that i can open the page each day and not see a single article from the day before... Moreover, sorry to be a jerk DP, but i do hate those 1 para articles, but i will say that (and this isn't directed at you) if you can say anything more concisely it is always better. I would just appreciate that if anyone would write an opinion article that you not only present your opinion but at least defend it...ie Aswaff gives me tons of crap for my lack of statistical defense, which is fine, it makes me a better writer...but...theres a good example...
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JuTMSY4Legend
1268 days ago
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DrpatriotAll-American
1268 days ago
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No offense taken, I actually agree about the sentiment about 1-paragraph articles. I thought I had explained my thinking well enough, but apparantly not. Ah well, my next article will definitely have more beef to it.
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DrpatriotAll-American
1268 days ago
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Based on your responses to my opinion about Ricky Williams, it is pretty obvious that you are talking to me (and some others) in this thread. I would like the chance to defend myself from these accusations. Assuming something like I (or others) "clearly logged on to alternate screen names and voted for their own putrid garbage" angers me greatly, especially because I was just posting an opinion. After looking back on the post, I can agree that it was lacking in substance. However, the post got more votes than either of my reports on the first and second rounds of the NFL draft (click my name to see them, you will find them to be full of information and well-thought-out yet relatively voteless). The votes for the Ricky Williams article probably came from people who agreed with the article, which I still believe has a point despite its relative lack of substance, not from myself. Making this accusation without backing it up with coherent thought, as you said I (and others) should do with opinions in the paragraphs above, is neither helpful nor beneficial to the environment of ArmchairGM. That said, I agree that much of the content of the "good" section is not actually any good, and there should clearly be some better way of filtering these articles.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1268 days ago
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I love you guys!!! I am freaking dying here in my chair!!! I am gonna tease each and every one of you at some point... That's a good thing. A - you got me to read it, B - If you're ever gonna get a regular following, be prepared for the criticism, wackos, moaners ... (Ask Paul Shirley)

Seriously, seriously, seriously... don't take anything I say personally, I just want this to be a kick-ass site!!! I am gonna push you guys to the top!!! Eventually one of us dumb opinionated bass turds will get an opportunity to go to bigger and better places... and you can thank me for making you try your hardest; and thank the rest of my cronies here for supporting the idea!!!

DOWN WITH ORDINARY SPORTS TALK!!! INTELLIGENT, INFORMED, RATIONAL AND HILARIOUSLY SARCASTIC SPORTS TALK FOREVER!!!!

Remember, we are all your readers too!!! If we want crappy sports opinion and media manipulation espn.com, si.com, sporting news.com, etc... is just a click away
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1268 days ago
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I just gave you all +'s, if I didn't already - The guys who don't Armchair on weekends ar gonna open this up on Monday and be like "WTF happened?"
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UfgatorsDiv-I Stud
1268 days ago
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Hey man, im loving your stuff. Im new here too, and its cool to keep writing every single day to inform and share opinions. Just dont get into too many verbal arguments with the guys here! Peace
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1268 days ago
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Yeah, I'm a little twisted in the head, but this is freaking fun!!! Man, right now I got ideas for articles that'll last me for the next two weeks, even at my current rate (which for the sake of my marriage should probably slow down to an acceptable level)... Much more to come! You read 'em, you comment on 'em, I give you +'s... I ove criticism as much as praise...if you like my writing, thank DNL for recruiting me, if you hate my writing , blame your parents for giving you their DNA Let's make ArmchairGM.com THE online authority...
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
1268 days ago
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"blame your parents for giving you their DNA." Hey, it's the text version of Stephen A. Smith! Just messin. I've liked the articles so far.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1267 days ago
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Would Stephen A give you a + for that? Let's start a WWSAD? movement...
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