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Booing Doesn’t Help

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by Afraidofedhochuli

Seattle is in a frenzy. Our Mariners are having one of the best seasons they have had in the last 5 years. They are second in the West and leading the Wild Card chase. They have the third best record in baseball.

So why are you booing when Richie grounds out?

Okay, let me go back.

I was angry at the beginning of the season because he is making a lot of money and was barely over the Mendoza line. I would boo when he struck out and I would be prepared for the worst when he came up to bat. But then something awesome happened.

The date was August 13, 2006. The Minnesota Twins were in town and all anyone was hearing was how amazing Johan Santana was. Don’t get me wrong, I think the guy is one of the better pitchers in the last 25 years. But no one was giving the M’s a chance.

Then in the bottom of the first, with two on and two out, Richie rips a double off the top of the wall. He gives the team the lead. Everyone cheers.

His next two at bats go as if they were scripted and he strikes out to a flurry of boos and hisses.

In the bottom of the ninth he steps into the box and cracks one over the wall for a walk off homer. People cheer.

This makes no sense people!!! Come on, enough with the “What have you done for me now” mentality. He WON the game for you (twice in one game, really).

He was later quoted as saying: "I'm sure tomorrow if I make an out, they'll boo me again."

Very classy Seattle.

I bring this up because I was at the game last night. The game where they were winning 5-0 in the first then got outscored 10-1 and lost 10-6.

I bring this up because a LOT of people grounded out.

I bring this up, because again, Mr. Sexson was the ONLY one getting booed. I couldn’t stand it; I stood up, cheered and clapped for the man.

Why? Because booing isn’t going to make him hit the ball. Booing is NOT going to make him hit a home run. All it is going to do is put more pressure on him and cause even MORE bad swings.

Some guy in front of me argued with me that we can boo since Richie is getting paid so much.

Really? Because last I checked, you didn’t get to choose how much he made. Do you boo your boss when he makes a mistake? You didn’t get to choose how much HE makes. Oh, and by the way, he is still the team leader in home runs with 21.  

Sure, maybe he should sit, but if you knew how to run a team, you wouldn’t be sitting with me.

So I have decided, and I informed my new friend of this. If you boo a player you now have no right to cheer when they do something right. Why? Because you are a bandwagoneer. You do not follow the team because it is your team, but because they might make the playoffs.

I really do think that he will get out of a slump, and when he does he can carry us. But until then, I will continue to give him encouragement, because I’m not going to boo my own team.

More at http://afraidofedhochuli.blogspot.com/

 


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JMFlyer1454Draft Pick
822 days ago
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Gotta hate booing. I hate it at any game I go to. And usually (I stress usually) it's the people you know have no idea; that are there because it was the cool thing to do or because the team is performing well. The same situation happens in Philly every day when Burrell is up to bat.
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JuTMSY4Legend
822 days ago
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Booooooo
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PeanMajor Leaguer
822 days ago
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COD
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Silencer76AAA-er
822 days ago
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Heh, the fans at Wrigley booed the living hell out of Bob Uecker during the seventh inning stretch last night. I think that motivated the Cubs, having the Brewers announcer singing Take Me Out to the Ballgame, as they batted around, scored 4 in the bottom of the seventh, and sunk the Brewers.
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Falcon02520Legend
822 days ago
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Booing is part of being a fan. But we gotta boo for the right reasons. I mean, if Fenway didn't boo the Yankees as they took the field, the game wouldn't mean as much. But I do agree in the fact that people boo over stupid reasons like a pop up from a guy hitting .300 or some one missing a foul shot in the first quarter.
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JuTMSY4Legend
822 days ago
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Yeah but most of the people who actually go to Fenway barely know what's going on...there's a reason sox SRO tickets sell for $80 and sox-yankees sell for much more...
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Falcon02520Legend
822 days ago
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Thats true, but its every where because so-called "fans" are uneducated and uniformed about the game, the team, and the situation.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
822 days ago
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It's mass psychology - 90% of the people that Boo only Boo when others already are booing...
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Falcon02520Legend
822 days ago
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You made that number up. And now you've just been lawyered! (But you are absolutly right)
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IbeargRed-Shirting
822 days ago
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kinda sounds like what was happening to a-rod last year. As far as I'm concerned unless you want the guy off the team completely or think he's not trying hard you shouldn't boo them. As you said booing doesn't really help anyone. the only three guys i can remember booing for the yankees were Randy Johnson, Kyle Farnsworth and Kenny Rogers... i wanted them all gone, and only Farnsworth remains. I don't even think i would boo Mussina right now based on what he's given the team previous years, but i can't say I'm sad to see them not starting him anymore.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
822 days ago
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When Booing doesn't work, turn to a rambunctious "YOU SUCK!"
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
822 days ago
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Booing your own team is like telling everyone you're ugly. It's ok if it's true, but if it's true, why advertise it?
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JuTMSY4Legend
822 days ago
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Manny is still upset he's not a Philly fan... If you played on the phils manny, i'd boo you ; - )
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
822 days ago
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I'm "upset" that I'm still not a Philly fan? It's because I'm not a Philly fan that I understand what sports are really about -WINNING!
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JuTMSY4Legend
822 days ago
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the first stage is denial ; - )
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
822 days ago
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the ONLY stage is denial...
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Silencer76AAA-er
822 days ago
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In all honesty, Mariners fans do have a reason to boo Sexson. He is hitting .185 at Safeco this year, .067 against the Angels, .196 against RHP, and is getting paid 15.5 million bucks.

His numbers are well down from his first two years in Seattle as evidenced here:

2005: 156 games, 99 runs, .263 BA, 36 2B, 39 HR, 121 RBI, .369 OBP, .541 SLG, .910 OPS[br]

2006: 158 games, 75 runs, .264 BA, 40 2B, 34 HR, 107 RBI, .338 OBP, .504 SLG, .842 OPS{br}

2007: 118 games, 58 runs, .208 BA, 21 2B, 21 HR, 63 RBI, .298 OBP, .405 SLG, .703 OPS[br]

That is a horrific dropoff, and for the money, the fans have a right to express their sentiments.
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AfraidofedhochuliDraft Pick
822 days ago
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But they had no say. And to boo is to say "put someone else in" but broussard (the one everone is calling for) hasn't proven to be consistent either.

I agree with your numbers, but admist it, would it help you hit better if you couldn't hear yourself think because the fans of your team hate you?

Same as the A-Rod comment, he was getting into his head.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
822 days ago
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Players puch too hard when the booing gets in their head. Then they turn into Pat Burrell...
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IbeargRed-Shirting
822 days ago
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they have a right to boo, but they have to ask themselves what do they want more... to express their frustration or to have Richie Sexson perform like he has in previous years? while booing certainly isn't the reason he's underperforming it doesn't help the problem if players start putting more pressure on themselves.
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Silencer76AAA-er
822 days ago
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They had no say? Like Jut said, you have the right to boo as part of paying admission. You claim it is ok to boo at the umps or the other team...how is that any different? That is still booing. So when you go to a game at Qwest Field, and Hasselbeck throws a pick in the fourth quarter that gets returned for a go ahead score, are you going to tell me you are going to stand up and cheer? I don't think so.
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AfraidofedhochuliDraft Pick
822 days ago
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"You claim it is ok to boo at the umps or the other team...how is that any different?"

That's the other team or the umps, you are supporting your team. And to think that a Boo is a Boo is completely off base. And you know that. One is for; one is against.

"So when you go to a game at Qwest Field, and Hasselbeck throws a pick in the fourth quarter that gets returned for a go ahead score, are you going to tell me you are going to stand up and cheer?"

You're right I won't, but I'm not going to Boo him off the field. Because it is my team. That's what a fan is, not a person who just goes to watch a win. Yes we all hope for one, but if that is the only reason you go then you need to re-evaluate. If you are only going to root when they get a championship, then you will be going a long time without cheering.
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JuTMSY4Legend
822 days ago
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First of all, they have a right to boo...they paid for the ticket...

So the question should be..should they boo...

So, as a kid, My dad didn't always say "good effort" when I friggin' sucked at something...he pushed me...that's what booing does...its motivation...some towns just use it differently than others...

Boston fans, for example, don't get it...I've been to a few sox games this year and tore into J.D. Drew...the results were clear he's batting about .750 when I yell at him ; - ) (I have my reasons for hating Drew...douchebag)
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AfraidofedhochuliDraft Pick
822 days ago
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I agree that you can do what you want with the price of admission, but my article is my stand point on how it doesn't help. And I'm really glad it got this much discussion going, because it is somethign that I have recently grown to hate.

The way I see it is boo the ump, boo a bad call, boo the other team, but your own team (to me) should be off limits

And yes, Drew is a douchebag
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Falcon02520Legend
822 days ago
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I remember Drew being a douche with Philly. Beyond that, he prolly was too. And his brother deffinatly is a bigger one. How do you hold out as a rookie draft pick??? F'n screwed up.
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EnyboDiv-I Stud
822 days ago
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If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Yes, I agree, i think some booing is unwarranted, like you said, the .300 hitter who pops out. But I agree with Ju, booing can be a form of motivation. Would you prefer the fans just sat there and did nothing? That to me would make it seem like the fans don't care one way or the other. As long as it stays on the field and people don't go out of there way to boo a player walking down the street (unless he truly deserves it, ie. Mike Vick) I am fine with it.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
822 days ago
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It does annoy me generally. Fans go to a stadium, and when their team is losing, they boo. Why? That is when their support is most needed! It happens over here too, although mainly in the NFL. Attendance doesn't fluctuate over here. If a team is near the bottom, you don't get empty stadia as a result (I'm thinking Ford Field here), and there's still a near capacity crowd cheering on even a struggling team.
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AfraidofedhochuliDraft Pick
822 days ago
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this is the sate of Seattle Sports. No one went to Seahawks games a few yearss ago. No season ticket waiting list...but then they do well and peopel are in blue and the ticket waiting list is like 5 years wait I should move to a better city :) buit then i would have to fork over money for Extra Innings and Sunday Ticket...
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JuTMSY4Legend
822 days ago
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Wait, seattle has a football team?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
822 days ago
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I hear Oklahoma City is nice this time of year....
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JuTMSY4Legend
822 days ago
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oh wahhh...no knows or cares that seattle has a team...alright...deal with it
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SSreportersLegend
822 days ago
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Yeah, the same one that beat the Eagles (albeit without McNabb) 42-0.
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AfraidofedhochuliDraft Pick
822 days ago
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you my friend, are a smart ass
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JuTMSY4Legend
822 days ago
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I'd rest my laurels on one win too if that was all I had... If i asked some idiot on the street to name NFL franchises...the seahawks would be sandwiched between the panthers and the texans...its the truth
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SSreportersLegend
822 days ago
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That's because the media doesn't give a a darn about Seattle.
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JuTMSY4Legend
822 days ago
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that's because people like me don't give a damn about seattle...correlation is not causation
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AfraidofedhochuliDraft Pick
822 days ago
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HA!
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B-ryeJV Squad
822 days ago
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We should actually be cheering when Sexson grounds out because hes upgraded to making contact, where earlier in the year he'd just straight strike out.
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AfraidofedhochuliDraft Pick
822 days ago
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BRILLIANT!!! At least he's not chasing fastballs off the plate on a 3-1 count
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Falcon02520Legend
822 days ago
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ROFLMAO
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
822 days ago
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You have the right to boo when you pay for the ticket. You also have the right to not pay attention to the game, to arrive late, and leave early. I don't understand why you'd do any of these things. Why boo your own player? It seems unproductive and doesn't seem like it would do anything to improve their performance. Although for some athletes it might be a kick in the ass that gets them going. But it seems like a waste of energy for most.
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JuTMSY4Legend
822 days ago
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That is a very boston-centric response...
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
822 days ago
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how so?
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JuTMSY4Legend
822 days ago
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Same thing happened to me, about a month ago (white sox series) when I was booing drew. Boston fans asked me why I was doing that...My buddy (a quiet Yankees fan) and I looked at them, mystified...Disregarding the entire fact that I was a phillie fan, I stammered: "He's been terrible for you guys, he's been a stiff, he doesn't seem to care and he's making almost $15 mil...overpaid, underworked and useless, he deserves it"

I mean, peopel write just as many blogs complaining about issue X or Y, Booing is just the stadium/mob equivilant...its an expression of distaste

Boston fans don't really seem to understand that and I don't know why...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
822 days ago
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Because they are irrationally myopic and painfully unrealistic to boot.
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Steel TownDraft Pick
822 days ago
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I really don't think people are booing to motivate the players. We as fans invest ourselves both financially and emotionally in the teams we choose to support. So when one of those guys who's driving the price of admission up is causing me to be unhappy with my own team then I have every right to be pissed off. C'mon. If you don't like booing then don't boo, but don't say those that are booing are bandwagoning or don't know what they are doing. I agree that sometimes a boo is unneccessary but that does not justify your hatred of the boo.
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JuTMSY4Legend
822 days ago
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That's probably the closest we're going to get to booing... Boo on Steel town, boo on!
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
822 days ago
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I think I comprehend the fact that booing is an expression of distaste. And I'm not going to yell at someone else for booing. For me though, I don't see the value in booing your own player. Drew already knows how bad he's performed this season, and me making some silly noise isn't going to enlighten him, and it certainly won't raise his batting average.
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
822 days ago
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^^^ meant as a reply to JuTMSY4
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AfraidofedhochuliDraft Pick
822 days ago
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That's what I'm saying. Boo if you want, but where will it get you booing your own guy?
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JuTMSY4Legend
822 days ago
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Makes you feel
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JuTMSY4Legend
822 days ago
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Makes you feel better...

Lets him know that type of work isn't ok...

Does your boss pat you on the back when you screw up? No...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
822 days ago
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Front offices understand how hometown fan reactions apply to their own metrics.

Teams with towns that cheer for their players often take in a greater revenue, it's simple business.

Don't get Philly twisted - they may boo the hell out of everyone, but they cheer the F*** out of players that play from their heart instead of wallet... all they want is players who play the game as hard as they can every play. And booing is their way of showing - YOU'RE NOT PLAYING AS HARD AS YOU CAN EVERY PLAY - or at least it seems like it...

You get bloody in Philly and you are a hero forever (unless you're Terrell Owens).
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
822 days ago
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I wouldn't be using Philadelphia sports as a model to follow, unless you want to be terminally mediocre.
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NejoshiDiv-I Stud
822 days ago
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The fans should be booing because their team blew a 5-0 lead in last night's game against the Angels, one of the biggest Seattle has been in this decade.
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