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Boo Birds Bother Ballplayers

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by user Ron Sen, MD

Julian Tavarez just completed an interview on the Red Sox pregame show. Tavarez felt hurt by the booing and criticism that he and other Red Sox players received this year. He said that Sox fans boo whether the team was six games ahead or behind. He also noted that players are embarrassed when they play poorly and are doing their best. Tavarez hasn't overachieved this season, a 2-4, with one save, a 4.72 E.R.A. and a WHIP ratio of 1.59.

But all that misses the point. It's always about the Benjamins. Fans who have paid the highest prices in baseball feel entitled to boo regardless of the feelings of ballplayers. Fans demand to be heard, irrespective of the consequences. And obviously, millionaires become easy targets for 'ordinary people'.

Although I don't attend many games anymore, I've never gone to boo, heckle, or jeer professionals. That's not my nature, and while negativity doesn't help, although I'm not sure that cheering helps much either in baseball. Having four-tenths of a second to recognize and hit a spinning horsehide requires enough attention that background noise doesn't affect a player much.

Fans expect certain 'obligations' from players, effort, both physical and mental. We expect professionals to act that way, respecting the fans and their teammates. Yet players do get picked off, make errors, and forget how many outs there are. They have the same weaknesses that we do.

Do players have a reasonable expectation of courtesy or humanity from fans? Do they have the right to any expectations, provided that they do their jobs to the best of their abilities? If Mickey Mantle went 0 for 4 with three strikeouts, did that make him a bum?

Some fans probably don't believe that players actually have feelings, or just don't care. Certainly through endowment bias we overrate how good 'our' players are. Should we care about players' feelings or only about our own? If you have too thin a skin, or cannot deal with failure, succeeding in high pressure markets won't happen.

If you were sitting in the boxes and yelled, "you stink" (or something worse) how would you feel if you knew the player's family were sitting next to you? Or maybe that he were injured or his grandmother had died the week before, or his child were ill?

I don't have the answers. We try not to be 'not always right, but never in doubt'. Whether you plunk down your hard-earned dough or simply get comped somehow, how entitled are you? Julian Tavarez hasn't had much of a season, but he raises some outstanding points.


Date

Tue 09/05/06, 3:05 pm EST


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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1219 days ago
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+ by the way, they're not horsehide anymore.

YOU SUCK, YOU BUM!!! We should trade you to sportscolumn.com for a bag of asterisks!!!

My grandmother can type faster than you!!!
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Ron Sen, MDRed-Shirting
1219 days ago
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he he he he
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1219 days ago
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I still have the image of a bag of asterisks in my head. You're always an enjoyable read, Doc!
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UfgatorsDiv-I Stud
1219 days ago
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very good points, but the thing that bothered me most is that of all players (even in the world) to address this issue, its julian tavarez. i mean, its quite simple: do well, and you get cheered. do poorly, and you get booed. There is no better example of this than in New York. If Tavarez actually had a decent season, he would get praised for it. I think it has something to do with the "for every action, there's an equal but opposite reaction" theory...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1219 days ago
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Are you saying the fans get ugly with him because he's so ugly?)
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ASwaffAll-American
1219 days ago
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I wish people like Tavarez wouldn't make these points. Seeing the stuff he's done over the years, the jerk and showboat he's been, the hothead he still is...it's hard to have any sympathy for him. I still remember when he was with the Pirates, playing against the Astros. Someone hit a groundball back to him, and he literally rolled it to the first baseman.


Despite what a jerk he is, I feel what he's saying. I feel the same way when I'm at work. I know what I'm supposed to do, and I try my best to do it. Having someone yell at me (especially if it's something disparaging) doesn't do anything to help my performance. Why do fans think that buying tickets gives them the right to do anything they want in the ballpark? Reach out and grab a ball that's in play...go ahead. Yell at players, and throw things at them if they ignore you...sure, no problem. Fans need to get a grip and realize that acting like a classless jerk isn't a right that you purchase at the ticket booth.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1219 days ago
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Most fans are NOT educated about the game. It's a social event to them, another reason to escape their meaningless lives and get drunk.
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ASwaffAll-American
1218 days ago
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Yeah, I know. It's pretty easy to tell that when you hear guys yelling "BALK!" when the pitcher stops in the middle of his motion with nobody on base. That's one of my favorites.
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UfgatorsDiv-I Stud
1219 days ago
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"...players are embarrassed when they play poorly and are doing their best." sorry guys, but if you're playing your best and giving it your all, yet it translates into strikeouts and passed balls, you don't deserve to be in the majors.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1219 days ago
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damn fine point!
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1218 days ago
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so when Arod was doing his best and still making errors, the Yankees should have demoted him?
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Bleeding GreenVarsity
1219 days ago
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I hope Tavarez gets booed every play for the rest of his career. Whining girl.
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
1219 days ago
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On the flip side of this, I was at a Indians/Reds game in Cincinnati a few years ago when (suprise suprise) Griffey Jr. got hurt and about half the stadium (both Reds and Indians fans) CHEERED THE INJURY. Not when he got up and left the field, WHEN HE GOT HURT. You have to wonder if there's a atmospheric phenomenon that zaps people's common sense out of their heads when they're in a ballpark.


Or maybe it's just all the beer sales.
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Bleeding GreenVarsity
1218 days ago
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That's in a different category...
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
1219 days ago
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Alliterative Articles Annoy All
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
1219 days ago
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Anonymous A-holes Are Awfully Annoying As-well Actually Alot Amore
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1218 days ago
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now now, CP30... Anonymous contributions are always welcomed here at the Armchair. Many members began innocently as anonymous contributors. Let's assist them in signing up, joining our fine wiki-club, having them add fine material to the community. Then when they "forget" to log in and 'accidentally' post smart-assed B.S. we can LAMBASTE them individually for being the gutless upssy Anonymous A-holes that they are!!!
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The Widening GeierSoccer Kid
1218 days ago
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that was me, didn't log in. Grouchy folks today.
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
1218 days ago
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I was joking, guys. I just wanted to use more A's!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1218 days ago
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who else COULD it have been? There's a fraction of the ACGM population that would/could use 'alliterative' in a sentence besides "I don't know what alliterative means..." Grouchy? Not today (yet)... Ironically sarcastic? That's me!
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
1218 days ago
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To paraphrase Comic Book Guy, "ironic sarcasm, there's a REAL useful invention"
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XinophDraft Pick
1218 days ago
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Have you been *watching* the Red Sox lately? They claerly haven't been playing "to the best of their abilities." If they'd been trying hard and clearly doing their best despite injuries, that'd be one thing. But the team's been falling apart, and nobody's been performing well, even the supporting cast. When your pitcher only allows two runs and you can't overcome the Seattle Mariners rotation to get three, you're not playing to the best of your ability.

Boston fans are good fans. They not only generally cheer *and* boo, they cheer individual strikeouts, and good performances by guys like Tavarez, who's mostly been a weight dragging on the bullpen all year. Boston fans, by and large in my experience attending games, don't start booing a guy in general just because he's not doing well. They boo individual bad performances and cheer individual good performances, for the most part, with the exception being that the whole team got a well-deserved boo upon their return to Fenway after a recent terrible road trip.

If Tavarez doesn't like how Boston fans handle booing/cheering, I hope he never has to deal with the Yankee Stadium crowd.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1218 days ago
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X is back!!!!
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
1218 days ago
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Try this site: http://www.heckledepot.com
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