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Big time oops for Ookie (The Michael Vick Indictment)

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by Baltimoresports247

Yesterday around 5:45 ESPN reported that Michael Vick has been indicted on "conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful actvities and to sponsor a dog in an animal fighting venture." I'm sitting here reading this 19 page indictment, and I've got news for #7...you've gotta spend a ton of money to get yourself out of this one.

This isn't smuggling a bong (oops, I mean "designer water bottle") through an airport or flipping your adoring fan base the bird after a game...this is some serious stuff. This is especially serious considering that Vick has been the face of the NFL, which puts him in a higher regard than Adam "Strip Club" Jones and Chris Henry...he was on the cover of Madden, has tons of endorsements (if Nike doesn't drop him I'm never buying another pair of Jordans)...this guy is chalked to make the 2nd highest salary this year. Not to mention he plays in a big market city like Atlanta, a team that represents and is cheered for by the entire dirty south. If you're a sponsor, do you drop him? I sure as hell hope so. If you're Arthur Blank, do you keep this guy on your team?

I hope you wouldn't...and before you start crucifying me for saying that, here are some excerpts from the 19 page indictment, which suggests Vick a.k.a. Ookie (sweet nickname dude...) is the king pin of a dog fighting ring called "Bad Newz Kennels."

The indictment tells us that Purnell A. Peace, a.k.a, P-Funk/Funk (again, another clever, intelligent nick name ::cough cough::) consulted Vick after a female pitbull had lost a fight. After the consultation, P-Funk proceeded to soak a dog in water and electricute it...

Other statements from anonoymous witnesses include accounts of dogs being hanged, drowned, and at least one account of a dog being slammed to the ground repeatedly in order to "execute" the losing fighter.

The NFL office has made a statement which implied that they're going to hold off on handing down a suspension to Vick until everything is settled in court...if that's the case, then why has Pacman been suspended for the entire year? This certainly seems like a double standard to me...and causing a fight at a strip club is a much lesser offense than holding a domestic dog's head underwater until it stops kicking...I know that his entourage has been connected to shootings, but it looks as though Jones himself hasn't been connected to the shootings/murders. By the looks of this indictment, #7 has been personally connected to fighting dogs and "executing" them in ways that the U.S. government wouldn't allow for murderers and rapists on death row.

Not to say that an animal has as much rights as a human...but for God's sake, there a 4 year old kids who have donned that #7 jersey, and these allegations literally make me sick to my stomach knowing that no matter what happens, Vick will probably still start for the Falcons this year.

Hopefully he won't (c'mon, Arthur Blank, do the right thing), but he probably will. Like most of the celebrities that buy their way out of trouble, Vick will start throwing suitcases of money at scum-bag lawyers who will put their morals aside (if they have any) to get him out of this mess. After reading this indictment, that would put a big, swollen, black eye on the NFL. Roger Godell needs to suspend Vick; that is, unless he's making an exception for one of the poster children of his organization.

And please, before you start bashing this artcile, read this indictment

By: Alex Thomas

Intern, 1570 AM WNST, Baltimore

Sports Night with Michael Popovec


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MegECass110AAA-er
866 days ago
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If Goodell ever had an opportunity to drop the hammer, this is it. It would send a league-wide message (if Pacman's suspension hasn't set one already) that he will not tolerate criminal behavior in his league.
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Baltimoresports247All-American
866 days ago
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I agree...but if he doesn't suspend Vick it's certainly a double standard, and that would be really bad for his new reign as commissioner
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
866 days ago
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Have to wait for a conviction.
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Baltimoresports247All-American
866 days ago
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Godell didn't wait for a conviction with Pacman and he's gone for the year...that's my point...he's gotta do something with Vick
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
866 days ago
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I should add that the second the conviction comes down, if convicted on many or all counts, he should be out of football permanently.
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
866 days ago
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Jones has in fact been convicted is serving a suspended sentence from his incident in Murfreesboro.
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Baltimoresports247All-American
866 days ago
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Josh I agree with your last point, but, under Godell's iron fist and considering all of the suspensions for other who haven't even been indicted, Vick should get some sort of punishment for charges that are this reprehensible
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
866 days ago
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Who hasn't been indicted?
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Baltimoresports247All-American
866 days ago
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I didn't know he had been convicted...what's your source?
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Baltimoresports247All-American
866 days ago
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LOL...normal, law abiding citizens don't get indicted...remember VICK said he was going to straighten his act out a few months ago...
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
866 days ago
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I meant, who has Goodell suspended without an indictment?

Source here: Oct 25, 2005. Violated probation. Serving suspended sentence. Equivalent to a conviction.

http://sport...y?id=2790090
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
866 days ago
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I bet Lions fans wished Matt Millen would get indicted on something.
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Baltimoresports247All-American
866 days ago
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Josh, thanks for the link...I missed that one
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JuTMSY4Legend
866 days ago
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Well, what Millen is doing is criminal
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
866 days ago
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I believe there are other probation issues too. Also, convictions aside, remember Pacmanimal has had 10 separate incidents. Vick's is a atrocious, but a guy with that many repeat offenses, some involving shots fired, is different.
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
866 days ago
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Only in Detroit. Millen's GM "skills" have not yet warranted a federal investigation. YET.
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JuTMSY4Legend
866 days ago
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In no way should Goodell wait for a conviction...

Personally, and i've said this here before, I don't think any suspension should be given out until due process, however, since the precedence has been set, it should not change for Vick.

Josh, the particular item you reference was a violation of probation, which while is the result of a "conviction" is also only available to first time offenders for smaller crimes, at the judge's discretion. Not to mention this happened in 2005, while he played for WVU and not in the NFL. I'm not positive it should have a bearing on any actions that happened while he was in the NFL...

With all prior actions, vick should face the penalties that any other league member should face...most likely at least a 1 year ban...perhaps more? This should be done within around a few months' time or in conjunction with Federal orders/preferences
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Baltimoresports247All-American
866 days ago
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Justin, thanks for the clarification...I was also under the impression that his previous "conviction" was while he was at West Virginia...
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JuTMSY4Legend
866 days ago
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I believe You can also plea to get probation/lessen the sentence...which may be plausible consider this was his first sentence... And to restate my thoughts...i think that his actions at WVU should certainly be part of Goodell's evaluation, because it is part of his past, but it should not have a specific bearing against him...
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
866 days ago
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If an incorrect precedent is set, we should continue it because its unfair to not continue to be incorrect?
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JuTMSY4Legend
866 days ago
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Its incorrect...Goodell's (practically) first move in the role of commish was to enhance the NFL image...I'm fairly confidence the precedent is set the way he would like already... I may disagree with it...but at the very least, he needs to be fair-handed in each case...
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JuTMSY4Legend
866 days ago
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and historically josh...we have continued with "incorrect" precedents ; - )
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
866 days ago
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ANd Vick and Jones are different. Jones has a history of probation violation and double digit incidents. Vick is a douchenozzle, but his run ins with the law were minimal prior. I don't see the incidents are the same.
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Baltimoresports247All-American
866 days ago
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Josh, isn't that the basis of our current government? There are lots of things I disagree with that are legal (and illegal, for that matter), but that doesn't matter...this is the law that has been set forth by our government...wrong or right, it's the law...considering our legal system, that's the price we pay for living in a free country, and everyone can agree that being free is the asset that makes this country great
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
866 days ago
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This isn't the government, its the NFL. and When precedent is wrong, the courts overturn it. Precedent isn't immortal
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JuTMSY4Legend
866 days ago
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No you're right...Vicks only court incidents involved giving someone genital herpes and the water bottle incident, both of which he avoided.

However, I think there is value in the degree of his crime versus Pacman's...

BS247, keep in mind, the legal system was designed by the people, for the people...we can alter as needed...its just becoming harder to do...
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JuTMSY4Legend
866 days ago
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My point is...Goodell has just recently set the standard, its not going to change yet...
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JuTMSY4Legend
866 days ago
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The appeals system is, in fact, designed to handle precedent, however, they weigh that decision heavily, for it has great impact on law... Thank you John Marshall
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Baltimoresports247All-American
866 days ago
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Justin I totally agree...it WAS designed for the people by the people (of course you know that, being a Philly guy) and certain political demographics are making it harder to keep that as a reality, and that's what I'm getting at...forget the NFL for a second, Josh, a FEDERAL GRAND JURY indicted Vick...the NFL should be the least of his worries at this point, especially considering the evidence set forth in that indictment
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
866 days ago
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BS, the precedent we were discussing was the NFL, not the Federal law. Vick is about to be in a world of hurt, but that doesn't have any bearing on what I said.
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JuTMSY4Legend
866 days ago
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And Goodell just set his standard...what makes you think he should change it...
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
866 days ago
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Because, as you said, his precedent is wrong. I'm sick of this vick crap. I wanna go back and look at boobies.
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Baltimoresports247All-American
866 days ago
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Exactly...no one has really been convicted of hard jail time...it's all been jail time and indictments...he shoudln't change or make an exception, but he probably will
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
866 days ago
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"Not to mention he plays in a big market city like Atlanta, a team that represents and is cheered for by the entire dirty south. "

Dirty south? Does that mean 1570 AM WNST doesn't have any listeners south of the Dixie line?

"Vick will start throwing suitcases of money at scum-bag lawyers who will put their morals aside (if they have any) to get him out of this mess."

Hey Alex, please keep in mind that everyone deserves their day in court. And why should he hire cheap lawyers (strange reading those two words together!)
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Baltimoresports247All-American
866 days ago
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haha Tyrone I always love hearing from you, brother..

WNST's signal doesn't stretch far past Annapolis, but you can listen live at the website from anywhere in the world...I consider the dirty south the eastern side of the southern US...I guess from South Carolina to Iowa (and South)...

And, of course, we're all innocent until proven guilty...thank God for our Constitution...but this looks pretty bad for Vick...just take a gander at the indictment (see link above)
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
866 days ago
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Good morning to you as well Alex! And we both darn well know how that "dirty south" always rallies behind accused black guys regardless of the facts - right? :) (Serious note now - yeah this is not looking great for Mike Vick at all.)
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Baltimoresports247All-American
866 days ago
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Hahahaha...completely agreed...as predjudice as it sounds, that's reality
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
866 days ago
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Let me add to all this mess that Blank SHOULD cut Vick, and Goodell should "suggest" to the rest of ownership that no one sign him.
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
866 days ago
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But then perhaps an attorney SHOULD "suggest" to Michael Vick (with nothing to lose) to pursue a collusion anti-trust suit against the entire NFL? Just asking.
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
866 days ago
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Of course. but it wouldn't matter because Al Davis will sign him in a minute.
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Baltimoresports247All-American
866 days ago
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absolutely...Vick should be finished... Hahaha Josh, totally agree...Al Davis seems to pick through the garbage like a poor man lookin for a meal
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JuTMSY4Legend
866 days ago
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Blank should do what is most financially savvy...if that means cutting Vick, then yes...but I have no idea how his contract is structures and if there are any out clauses, etc.
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Baltimoresports247All-American
866 days ago
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If memory serves he's slated to make 13 million this year...that's a lot of money to shell out in my eyes, but I'm not Arthur Blank
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JuTMSY4Legend
866 days ago
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Guaranteed money is the important part...
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JuTMSY4Legend
866 days ago
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There's also more to the fiscal concerns...what about his value to sell jerseys, get on TV, etc...what about the damage his rep could do to the falcons rep, ticket sales, and so on...
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Baltimoresports247All-American
866 days ago
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Well we all know that most of the money in NFL contracts is not guaranteed...with the exception of bonuses and accomplishments, the signing bonus is the only thing that's guaranteed
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MegECass110AAA-er
866 days ago
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Remember when Vick came into minicamp with his haircut? He said he was trying to change his image. Good luck with that, Mike.
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Baltimoresports247All-American
866 days ago
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hahaha good point Meg...I think I highlighted that in the blog, if not, here's the deal... After all of his incidents, Vick showed up at training camp saying that he was going to change his image and behavior...and he said it with a smile on his face...from what we know now, he was neck deep in this dog fighting ring...what a model citizen...
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JuTMSY4Legend
866 days ago
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Can the next article in this series please read: "Ookie in the Pokie"
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DifranflyerSoccer Kid
866 days ago
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Vick was never going to change. He knew he was going to get paid no matter what he did. Now with this black cloud over his head, he is going to be forced to change his image or he might not ever play football for the NFL again, he's too much of a risk now.
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Baltimoresports247All-American
866 days ago
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He's also too talented for any NFL team to pass on him...if the Falcons won't keep him on the roster (which I think they will), some other team will
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
866 days ago
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"Now with this black cloud over his head, he is going to be forced to change his image or he might not ever play football for the NFL again, he's too much of a risk now." Ripping off Leslie's schtick, are we?
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JuTMSY4Legend
866 days ago
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Depends on how the trial plays out...but the falcons, espeically after the schaub trade...aren't going to send him pack....yet
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
866 days ago
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Hey Ju, the Falcons will sit and wait it out, even with that Big Mean Black Scary Cloud hovering over Vick? :)
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TheidiotchroniclesWaterboy
866 days ago
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Vick is a sick person and needs to be out of the league and in jail.
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