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Big Papi rated "JUST RIGHT"

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by user Manny Stiles

Someone had to do this... might as well be Manny "Dr Commento" Stiles

After contemplating this and that, I decided to settle this matter.

According to Einstein, (and keeping it simple) everything is relative. In order to discuss whether something is above or below its rating, or "Overrated/Underrated" one must define what that rating is. THEN, we can begin to understand what "overated" and "Underated". (Is there a proper spelling of Over-rated and Under-rated?)

Most things like this fall into the category of "Personal Taste": for instance, I think Carmen Electra is skankish. Some of you may think she's hot! To me she's is pukingly OVER RATED, to you, maybe she's "Under rated" since she's not constantly in the spotlight spreading her talents around the world... (Maybe you enjoy Dennis Rodman's sloppy seconds).

What the O!F is the point here? ArmchairGM is a place to SHARE your opinions, not fight like cats in heat because you have differing opinions. Let's face it... NO opinion is wrong, but no opinion will ever be absolute truth except to the holder of that opinion.

Much like you'll rarely be successful in changing someone's religeous or political views, your attempts at swaying each other's sports opinions will lead only to frustration, anger and endless ridicule and mocking from me...

Now, I'm all for a rousing Red Sox - Yankees squabble, since living in a West Coast NL city, I only get to see those teams on TV like 4-5 times a week, so I like to have the fanaticals keep me updated on every molecule of the 'rivalry'.

See, I'm not saying to stop these debates, but keep a sense of better judgement about you. Arguing with a fool only makes it tough for people to tell you apart.

To sum it up, I think overrated and underrated are among the dumbest cliches in sports. In my anti-humble opinion, David Ortiz is rated.


Date

Fri 08/11/06, 10:47 am EST


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JoebookRed-Shirting
1208 days ago
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This Big Papi crap has to end...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1208 days ago
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peopel adding comments without reading the article should probably be avoided as well...
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
1208 days ago
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Amen and many +'s to that, JB.
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
1208 days ago
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I read it, Manny, and I still agree with him.
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
1208 days ago
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Not much different from the article the other day going on and on about how people should stop going on and on about Michelle Wie.
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
1208 days ago
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Have I reached a Manny-esque quota of comments on this post yet?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1208 days ago
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I asked if you read the article, because only the title and last sentence had ANYTHING to do with Big Papi, and even they were ambiguous
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
1208 days ago
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Well if you want me to comment on your article, I think that Carmen Electra is the skankiest skank in all of Skankville. But she's also the hottest of all the skanks. The mystery of how someone can be so skanky and yet so hot is like the 13th wonder of the world or something.
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UfgatorsDiv-I Stud
1208 days ago
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let me rephrase my comment on the other big papi article: in my opinion, david ortiz is clutch; nothing more, nothing less. why dont we leave it at that? I propose a SHOWDOWN between dukeboy, bobbyjim, and manny!! i havent seen a showdown in ages. i know manny is up for it...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1208 days ago
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Can the showdown be - True or Undeniable? "Yankees/Red Sox" rivalry is really "Hatfields/McCoys" for Dummies?
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ChachiOSUDraft Pick
1208 days ago
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True or false - The only thing getting more annoying than the Yankees/Sox rivalry is Manny complaining about it?
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
1208 days ago
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False, there is nothing more annoying. (yeah, yeah, - away if it makes you feel better)
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ChachiOSUDraft Pick
1208 days ago
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I won't minus you. You're a Tribe fan so you've had enough bad things happen to you in your lifetime already.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1208 days ago
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Nah, most of it was well before his lifetime!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1208 days ago
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who's complaining about the Yanks/Sox? I just don't see a reason to get worked up over 2 teams destined to be golfing in October!
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
1207 days ago
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Actually Manny a lot it has BEEN my lifetime. I grew up with Brook Jacoby and Corey Snyder. Some of the great baseball names to ever go to waste.
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UfgatorsDiv-I Stud
1208 days ago
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http://archi...ativity.html just for kicks, here is an explanation of the theory of relativity, in simple terms.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1208 days ago
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it has more than just physics applications...
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UfgatorsDiv-I Stud
1208 days ago
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Manny Stiles: the rapping, theory of relativity-knowing, money loving stockbroker.
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
1208 days ago
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or Manny the Weiner for short :-)
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JoebookRed-Shirting
1208 days ago
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Manny... I always read your stuff (sometimes I wonder why) (just kidding) but my point was that anything related to Big Papi has run it's course, which you touch on. Your article, like always, is entertaining...
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DrpatriotAll-American
1208 days ago
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I was about to do this...darn.
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Bobbyjim45Draft Pick
1208 days ago
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I don't care how skanky Carmen Electra is... she's HOT.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1205 days ago
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enjoy Rodman's discardings
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The sharkDraft Pick
1208 days ago
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So I've been away for way too long. Let me try and reply to all these Big Papi articles:
I'm like Goldilocks: One of you is way off, one of you is pretty close, and one of you is RIGHT ON. Guess which is which.
MANNY - You are very close. I agree that Ortiz is talked about too much. And that his place in the annuls of who is "great" in Baseball (ie:underrated) and who is "played out" (ie:overrated) is COMPLETELY OBJECTIVE. But Ortiz is a great offensive player and no one argues that.
DUKE - You are WAY OFF. Papi is not over-rated. Jason Bay??? Please, you know nothing of baseball if you would rather have Bay bat in a key spot than Ortiz. The numbers don't even compare. Okay - Bay steals bases, I'll give you that, but to have Bay bat in Papi's place EVER? You must be mad. But I won't get biligerent like some have, it's just an opinion.
BOBBYJIM - I do believe you hit the nail on the head. Especially for what this guy's salary is! He IS clutch, no matter who hits in front of or behind him - that's baseball. If your team is willing to spend the money, you will be protected in the lineup. Ask Jeter, A-Rod, Beltran, or Vernon Wells. It's a fact of life. Since the beginning of 2003, Ortiz has 167 homeruns, 497 RBI, a .296 batting average, and sixteen walk-off hits (including three in the 2004 postseason that basically brought a WS Title to Beantown for the first time in 86 years!!!!!!!!!!!!) You can argue if you want, but anyone without an agenda knows batter. Ortiz IS NOT overrated! If anything, he's underrated.
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The sharkDraft Pick
1208 days ago
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better, not batter. I knew I would misstroke a key in a comment that long. My bad.
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The sharkDraft Pick
1208 days ago
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By the way, over a 162 schedule, those number project to 49 homeruns and 147 RBI. Better than ANYONE else in baseball over that stretch.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1208 days ago
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ohhhhh kaaaaay...
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The sharkDraft Pick
1208 days ago
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Yeah, sorry about that.
All this debating is making me batty. You were saying?
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
924 days ago
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Manny is a Pnatt.
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