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Big Bad Flyers Strike Again

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by MetsJetsDevils

In the Flyers 6-3 loss to the Bruins yesterday the Flyers took out their 4th player, and second Bruin, on a questionable hit.  In their first game against each other since Randy Jones knocked out Patrice Bergeron with a hit from behind, an injury from which Bergeron has still not healed, Scott Hartnell was given a five minute boarding penalty for bashing the Bruin Andrew Alberts' head into the glass as Alberts slid along the ice on one knee.  The Flyers were trailing 5-2 at the time.  Alberts left the game and did not return joining Dean McAmmond, Ryan Kesler, and Bergeron on the list of victims of Flyers assaults.

Much like the Jones hit on Bergeron, it is difficult to believe that Hartnell intended to injure Alberts.  At the same time, the score was 5-2 towards the end of the second period.  In situations like that, the losing team typically goes out of its way to "finish" its checks.  The question now is will Hartnell be suspended.

Much like the Jones' scenario, based on the hit alone I don't think a suspension is warranted.  However, it is past the point when you can look at these four incidents and believe they are not related.  They are not isolated incidents.  The first three suspensions have done nothing to bring the Flyers back within the rules, so now what do you do?

On that note, I am a little dissapointed with the Bruins response.  They went into the game intent on playing hockey and not seeking retribution for the Bergeron injury.  Then, with a 3 goal lead the Bruins decided not to seek retaliation for the hit on Alberts.  Captain Zdeno Chara stated, It's something we talked about...We probably ended up with some bruises, but we have two points and that's the most important thing right now. It's up to the league to address things like that."

What has happened to the NHL?  Once upon a time, incidents like this:

Led to games like this:

The notion that that the Bruins would sit idly back and say that getting the two points was more important that protecting not just one, but two fellow players flies in the face of what the NHL is all about.

Its not up to the league to sort it out as Chara says.  The league will issue whatever ruling it issues, but letting the league deal with it creates the problem, it does not solve it.  Take for example the Bergeron hit.  Before the NHL lockout, no NHL player would be caught dead turning his back and facing the boards with the puck behind the net as a matter of self-preservation.  Hockey is a tough sport and you simply did not put yourself in the position to be exploited or injured.  And in the rare circumstances that someone did take liberties with a player, his team would make sure that there were repurcussions.  Somce people scoff at the notion, but the NHL really did police itself.

In today's NHL, the policing is done from the league offices.  Punishment is meted out for running afoul of the rules and punishment is meted out for players imposing their own "sanctions."  As a reult, players feel freer to put themselves in vulnerable situations and players feel freer to take liberties with each other.  After all, the league may choose to punish Hartnell by suspending him for a few games, but that pales in comparison to the broken nose, bloody face and/or swollen eye that would have been his "penalty" 5 years ago.

UPDATE: Hartnell was suspended for 2 games by the NHL.

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FrankDDiv-I Stud
718 days ago
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I was just watching a game on the NHL Network between the Caps and Pens. Game 6 of the 93 or 94 playoffs, I can't really remember. Anyways, Kjell Samuellson went to deliver a hit on a Cap, who managed to dodge it but in doing so popped Sams right in the mouth with his glove. He lost a tooth or two, blood everywhere and yet no penalty. It'd be a double-minor in the league today, if not a 10-minute game misconduct.

Five minutes later Kevin Stevens is taking the puck into the zone. He gets hung up and grabs the stick of the defender and pushes it out of the way. Full on hand around the stick and throwing it out of the way. Two minute minor for holding the stick today. (Just ask Malkin, he loves doing it.)

I think a lot has changed in the way of 'love taps' and cross-checks, cheap shots and scraps. I didn't see the hit in the Flyers game last night, but I think at this point it's all about the negative reputation the Flyers are [inadvertently?] building for themselves. And personally, I think the league is eating it up too.
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CRS-ONEVarsity Captain
718 days ago
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Hockey is always promoted as a tough physical sport. You have to believe that the league enjoys some of the extra coverage its recieving. The problem with allowing this physical play is that it sets a gray area as to what's an acceptable hit or not.
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
718 days ago
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So the Bruins should "protect" their players by taking cheap shots like the Flyers do?
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FrankDDiv-I Stud
718 days ago
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I think the only way for any team to protect against cheap shots is to constantly be on the offensive when it comes to hitting. And frankly, from where I stand, I feel that takes away from the game. At what point do you draw the line between retaliation and headhunting?
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
718 days ago
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I don't think the answer is cheap shots. I think the answer is exactly what you see in the Colorado/Detroit video. You drop the gloves and start pounding until there is no pounding left. Jeremy Reich or someone else in that situation needs to drop the gloves and go after Jones and Hartnell. It used to be in the NHL that players like Jones and Hartnell, who didn't mean to injur someone but ran afoul of the rules nonetheless, recognized that they needed to man up, and would take on the challenge. There would be a nice clean fight and the incident would be over. Sometimes the blood was bad enough that it would spill over 2 or 3 games. I am not saying someone needs to spear Briere in the stomach, but a message needs to be sent nonetheless.
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
718 days ago
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The problem is, what if Hartnell refuses to drop the gloves, then you get an instigator penalty and the Flyers get an advantage. And it isn't just about one dirty player, because Jones is not known as being a dirty player. This is an entire team that seems to look for opportunities to hit defenseless players, even when it has no impact on the game. They seem to want to injure people. The NHL needs to do something before they hurt someone in a permanent way.
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
718 days ago
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Claude Lemiuex turtled once too. Players have reputations and don't want to be known as turtlers. Lemieux was a man about it. He turtled against McCarty who was a professional fighter, but he dropped the gloves against Draper who was the guy he injured in the first place. I agree that the Flyers are out of control. My point is don't expect the league to stop it. You have to go out there and stop it yourselves. Much like the Patriots. Aren't you one of the people saying stop complaining about the Patriots unsportsman like behavior? Aren't you one of the people saying stop whinning about them running up the score and go out there and stop them?
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
718 days ago
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Well, MJD, running up the score has yet to put a single person in the hospital with a Grade III concussion.
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FrankDDiv-I Stud
718 days ago
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The Flyers have been on both ends of the score now, and they still act like jackoffs. There was the game against Vancouver where they were winning, what, 7-1? And now last night when they were down 5-2. They'll take whatever they can get, whenever they can.
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Pittsburgh GunnyMajor Leaguer
718 days ago
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Flyers, ech, buncha thugs.
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Steel TownDraft Pick
718 days ago
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The problem is a bunch of people who don't and probably will never watch the game say they don't like fighting, so Bettman the lap dog made it harder for the sport to police itself.
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