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Best baseball team ever?...1936 Pittsburgh Crawfords

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by user Shrubbery

A recent post spawned a debate as to who was the best baseball team ever. So, being a champion of shameless self-promotion I’ve found the best baseball team ever assembled, non-all star of course. Let me just whisper a hint in your ear…it’s not the 1927 New York Yankees. The best team ever assembled was *queue drum roll* the 1936 Pittsburgh Crawfords.

The ’36 Crawfords were a dazzling collection of hitting, fielding, and pitching. The team featured five, count ‘em, five future Hall-of-Famers and perhaps the greatest single collection of baseball talent to ever set foot in a ball park.

Here’s a rundown of the staggering talent on the ‘Fords.

Josh Gibson was arguably the greatest player ever. He boasted hitting over 1,000 career homeruns but the number is probably closer to 700-800. Some historians have claimed he clubbed 84 HR’s in one year and his bombs were the stuff of legend. He hit a homerun in Yankee Stadium that traveled 580 feet to deep center, two feet below the top of the bleachers’ wall. Infielder Jack Marshal claims Gibson hit one over the roof in left field, in fair territory. Though some numbers are unverifiable Gibson was credited with two seasons in which he hit well over .400 and had a slugging percentage over 1.000. He died of a stroke at the age of 35, barely three months before Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier. Gibson was #16 on The Sporting News Top 100 players ever.

Satchel Paige may have been the greatest pitcher ever. The estimated career numbers are overwhelming…2,000 wins, 300 shutouts, 64 straight scoreless innings, 21 straight wins, pitched for over four decades, first Negro Leaguer enshrined in Cooperstown. Some give Paige credit for a god-like 62-13 record in 1932. While the stats for Paige are difficult to quantify, with all his exhibitions, barnstorming, and his all-too-brief Major League career, his mastery of nearly every pitch is unquestionable. He once told Josh Gibson to expect three fastballs…Gibson whiffed on all three. Paige was a consummate showman and shit-talker who was reputed to pull his entire defense off the field and mow down the side with nine pitches. He was named to The Sporting News Top 100 players of all-time.

It was once said of Cool Papa Bell that he could flip off the light switch and be in bed before the room got dark. Exaggerations aside, Bell is likely the fastest baseball player ever. He was recorded circling the bases in 13.3 seconds and some claim he could round all four bases in 12 seconds flat. Possessing a quick bat Bell hit for average and was a terror on the base pads. Plus he flashed unreal defensive skills. Bell is widely considered the best outfielder the Negro Leagues ever produced. He was #66 on TSN’s Top 100.

Baseball historian Bill James ranked Oscar Charleston as the fourth best baseball player ever, and he may have been the greatest Negro League star. Charleston boasted a .355 lifetime average and was the best power hitter in the Negro Leagues, save only Josh Gibson. Along with Bell, Charleston was a brilliant defensive outfielder. He was #67 on TSN’s Top 100. A gifted player, Charleston was also manager of the ’36 Crawfords.

Judy Johnson hit .344 for his career, was the captain of the ’36 ‘Fords, and was arguably the best fielding 3B ever. His uncanny ability to shine in pressure situations was legendary. His will held together the ’36 Crawfords, a volatile mix with Gibson, Paige, and Charleston all possessing temperaments eerily reminiscent of the reviled Ty Cobb. Johnson was elected to the Hall in 1975.

William Bell had a lifetime .721 winning percentage, averaged 18 wins a season, a 124-48 record, 74% of his starts were complete games, and allowed less than one hit per inning pitched. Bell has been a finalist for enshrinement in the Hall.

The 1936 Crawfords had the most complete team in baseball history. Just imagine Cool Papa hitting lead-off, Johnson hitting second or third, Gibson at clean up, and Charleston at the third or fifth spot. Scary. Then parade out Satchel Paige and William Bell. In a seven game series I’d bet a fairly large amount of money that the ’32-’36 Crawfords could beat ANY team in MLB history.


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Wed 06/14/06, 8:52 am EST

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Patrickburke1980All-American
1268 days ago
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wow, very interesting ariticle. well done.
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
1268 days ago
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Fantastic article. It's amazing the kind of numbers these guys put up.
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Awrigh01All-Star
1268 days ago
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2,000 Wins? I would want that guy on my fantasy team.
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JuTMSY4Legend
1268 days ago
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Good stuff. Wasn't Paige over the hill by that point though? There is no way the '36 Crawford beat the '62 Mets in 7 game series!
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
1268 days ago
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62-13!! Pitchers normally start about 32 or 33 times a year let alone 75 (at least)!! I wonder why no-one ever mentioned them before...
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ThecrookedcapAll-Star
1268 days ago
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This is the era before the 5 man rotation and players would pitch until either their arms fell off or gave up about 10 runs.
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ThecrookedcapAll-Star
1268 days ago
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You make an excellent case. Kudos to also remember the Negro Leagues, which are often forgotten in discussions of old time baseball.
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ShrubberyVarsity Captain
1268 days ago
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I'm a huge negro league fan. Fact is the '31 Homestead Greys may have been as good.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
1268 days ago
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who was on that team? Anyone interested in adding Negro league content to our baseball section?
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ShrubberyVarsity Captain
1268 days ago
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I misspoke...'twas the '41 Grays...had Gibson, Cool Papa, and Buck Leonard, who's been mentioned with Lou Gehrig as the best 1B ever.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
765 days ago
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James 'Cool Papa' Bell likely the fastest player ever? Not by any consensus he isn't.

Hype is one thing..fact another. If Bell circled the bases in 13.3 seconds - some 352 feet (or 360 tops for argument sake) - then using the latter to give Bell the benefit of the doubt his speed equates to well over 11 seconds covering 100 yards/300 feet.

For comparison sake former LA Dodgers CF Willie 'The 3 Dog' Davis was a documented 9.7 100 yard/300 feet sprinter (hype claims he was even faster.) Davis was acknowledged as MLBs fastest player; it is documented that Willie scored all the way from 1st base on a teammates 'single' - NINE DIFFERENT TIMES. I saw Willie do it twice (once in 1963 vs the Giants & in 1965 vs the Pirates) and still can't believe what I saw to date...cant recall another player ever doing so since I started watching baseball in 1956.

There have been & are today many fast players, so it becomes subjective sans any definitive measure or race. Former Olympic sprinter Herb Washington was a 1970's gimmick signing by Charles Finley of the Oakland A's; too, Lou Brock, Ralph Garr, Vince Coleman & several players of today could draw consideration as well.

I never saw Bell run but did see all the other players mentioned as well all those playing today circa 2007 & none could match Willie Davis when he put the pedal down (as for any bias on my part I'm a lifelong Detroit Tigers fan, for what it's worth.)

PR exaggeration is part of baseball lore i.e., Bell turning out the lights and being in bed before the room was dark, etc. For my money, Willie Davis remains the fastest MLB player ever.
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Anonymous Fanatic #3
737 days ago
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I saw both James Bell and Willie Davis ---of the Dodgers---in their primes. Without question, James was the faster down the line to first and around the bases. I was once one of the timers that caught him in 12.0 flat circling the bases (in Kansas City 1935). He had this unmatched technique of hitting each base with his left foot with body leaning that allowed him to circle the bases without wide turns. Not only was he faster than Willie ever was but I also believe that Mickey Mantle---in 1951 before his knee injury---was faster going to first base than Willie Davis. For that matter so was Richie Ashburn. I am now 95 years old and, over the years, have seen just about every fast baseball player.
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