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Baseball Etcetera...A-Rod hits 5th HR...Sosa, Bonds slumping

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by user Niteowl049

Baseball Notebook

Baseball Daily Digest Three Consecutive Doubleheaders? It will be interesting to see how major league baseball untangles the mess after bad weather caused the Indians and Mariners to postpone a single game and three doubleheaders last weekend and Monday. The two teams don't play again until the last month of season when Indians visit Seattle the last week of the season. Unless they make up some of the missed games on off days they could possibly have to play three doubleheaders in a row to make up for the lost weekend which is very possible considering the Indians seem to have a chance to win the AL Central title.

Alex Rodriguez hit his fifth homer of the season making him the only Yankee in their long history to have hit 5 homers in the first 6 games. Carl Pavano finally won a game for the Yankees as he gave up 2 runs in 7 innings. His opponent Sidney Ponson may be on the brink of being released or relegated to bullpen duty unless he pitches better in his next start. Ponson allowed the Yankees to score 8 runs and garner 10 hits in 5 2/3 innings and boosting his ERA to 12.71....A.J. Burnett pitched the Blue Jays to a 9-1 win over the Royals allowing only one run and 3 hits in 6 2/3 innings. Alex Gordon who by many is considered the No.1 prospect playing in major this year continues his anemic hitting as he is now hitting .045 with one single in 22 at bats.

Sammy Sosa is being reminded of what he proably already knew....that spring training numbers mean nothing as he is hitting .167 with 4 hits in 24 at bats during the regular season....Jose Contreras posted his first win of the season allowing one run and four hits in 6 innings in the White Sox 4-1 win over the Athletics. Rich Harden pitched good enough to win most games allowing only 2 earned runs while striking out 6 in 6 innings but the A's bats were silent for the most part only having 5 hits in the game....Cole Hamels actually pitched better than his opponent John Maine but the Phillies bullpen took them out of the game. Hamels only allowed 2 earned runs but their bullpen enabled the Mets to post a 11-5 win.

Braden Looper and Ian Snell locked up in a pitching duel as the Cardinals took a 3-0 victory over the Pirates. Looper allowed no runs and two hits in 7 innings while Snell gave up one run and 6 hits in 7 innings but the Pirates bullpen gave up two additional runs in the eighth inning. Cardinals hitters still have not become untracked as they had only one hitter (Chris Duncan) hitting over .300 in yesterday's lineup....After their win over the Cubs yesterday the Astros need to win today to keep from being in last place in NL Central. A win today will give them company in last place with the Cubs owning a share of last place. After 32 at bats Alfonso Soriano has not hit a home run or driven in a run. When a player signs a contract for $136 million the team has every right to expect better numbers than those he has posted so far.

Rockies leadoff hitters are not doing well with Willy Taveras and Steve Finley combining to have only 5 hits in 33 times at bat. This team has too many good hitters in middle of lineup to have leadoff hitters preventing them from having big innings....Jeff Suppan is now 0-2 with Brewers. The Brewers need Suppan, Ben Sheets and Chris Capuano to win consistently for this team to be a force in the NL Central race.

Chris Young and Padres take a 1-0 win over the Giants a game in which both Young and Matt Cain pitched good enough to win but Cain allowed 1 run and 1 hit in 7 innings yet still took the loss. Barry Bonds was 0 for 2 and has only one hit in his last ten trips to the plate as his average tumbled to .200.

Stats Corner

Alex Rodriguez leads majors in home runs and RBI's with 5 and 13 to lead those categories. Orlando Hudson of the Diamondbacks is leading majors in hits with 13. Rodriguez leads in total bases with 27....Surprise leaders in stolen bases are Eric Byrnes and Ryan Freel with 4 each....Anibal Sanchez has given up 18 hits to lead in most hits given up this season but has a 1-0 record....Carlos Zambrano can't be too happy about leading the majors in home runs allowed with 4...not exactly the kind of numbers he would want while hoping to get a contract extension....Hitters are hitting only .142 against Rich Hill making him the leader in that category.

Standings Highlights

Blue Jays, Twins and Angels lead the three AL divisions while in NL the Braves and Diamondbacks lead their divisions while the Pirates and Reds are tied for the NL Central lead. Diamondbacks have longest winning streak with 5 wins. Giants and Nationals have the longest losing streak with 4 consecutive losses. The three worst teams in majors are the Giants, Phillies and Nationals all with 1-6 records.

Mets are highest scoring team with 47 runs while Giants are the lowest scoring team in baseball with only 14 runs in 7 games.

Aaron Not Planning on Booking Flight To Scene If Bonds On Brink of Passing Him

Hank Aaron says he is not planning to to take an airplane flight just to be there if and when Bonds passes him for the all time home run lead. Aaron does say he might send him a telegram in the event Bonds should pass him.

You can't blame Aaron for not wanting to be part of a ceremony that would honor a cheater so Balco Barry doesn't deserve to even have Aaron as part of the festivities celebrating him passing Aaron.

Balco Barry doesn't understand that Aaron is from a generation that worked hard for what he achieved and not by being chemically assisted by drugs. Aaron is one the humblest superstars in history of baseball. He never sought to have the spotlight turned on him. The spotlight was turned on him because of his chasing the record of Babe Ruth not because Aaron wanted the attention that Bonds craves.

It was 33 years ago that Aaron broke Babe Ruth's mark of 714 home runs by hitting his 715th home run. I watched it happen on TV that night but if Bonds ties Aaron I have no plans on watching the event because it will have nothing to do with skill but due to how many steroids one man can ingest into his system to inflate his home run totals.

Aaron has too much class to follow Bonds around the country till he passes him. Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that Bonds suddenly found his home run stroke in his mid 30's and has hit more home runs since age of 35 than most players hit in their entire careers.

This situation could have been avoided if baseball commissioner Bud Selig ignored the use of steroids because the home run binge was boosting attendance at games and making his fellow owners richer. So if Selig finds himself in a uncomfortable situation this summer if Bonds does pass Aaron he only has himself to blame.

So hope Hammering Hank will stay home and take it easy at the age of 72 instead of following Balco around the country to see a cheater pass him in career homers.

Below is an article from Atlanta Constitution that explains in detail why Aaron won't be there if Bonds does pass him with many comments after the article complimentary toward Aaron with a few defending Balco Barry.

http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/sportscolumns/entries/2007/04/09/aaron_owes_bond.html


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Bball3345Draft Pick
984 days ago
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"Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that Bonds suddenly found his home run stroke in his mid 30's and has hit more home runs since age of 35 than most players hit in their entire careers."

You keep ignoring the fact that Ted Williams and Hank Aaron both had power spikes at the end of their careers.

How do YOU explain that?
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
984 days ago
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beanballs- you should really do some homework!! from age 21 - 32 ted williams hit on average 33 homeruns a year. from age 33 - 42 he hit 25 homeruns a year.


NOT REALLY SURE WHAT POWER SURGE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT?!

NOW LOOK AT BONDS--- HAHA, OOPS STEROIDS!!! STEROIDS!!!! STEROIDS!!!
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Davis21wylieMVP
984 days ago
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Ted Williams career splits, pre- and post-Age 32:
year	team	lg	G	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	TB	AVG	SLG	ISO
1939	BOS	AL	149	565	185	44	11	31	145	344	0.327	0.609	0.281
1940	BOS	AL	144	561	193	43	14	23	113	333	0.344	0.594	0.250
1941	BOS	AL	143	456	185	33	3	37	120	335	0.406	0.735	0.329
1942	BOS	AL	150	522	186	34	5	36	137	338	0.356	0.648	0.291
1946	BOS	AL	150	514	176	37	8	38	123	343	0.342	0.667	0.325
1947	BOS	AL	156	528	181	40	9	32	114	335	0.343	0.634	0.292
1948	BOS	AL	137	509	188	44	3	25	127	313	0.369	0.615	0.246
1949	BOS	AL	155	566	194	39	3	43	159	368	0.343	0.650	0.307
1950	BOS	AL	89	334	106	24	1	28	97	216	0.317	0.647	0.329
1951	BOS	AL	148	531	169	28	4	30	126	295	0.318	0.556	0.237
1421	5086	1763	366	61	323	1261	3220	0.347	0.633	0.286

1952	BOS	AL	6	10	4	0	1	1	3	9	0.400	0.900	0.500
1953	BOS	AL	37	91	37	6	0	13	34	82	0.407	0.901	0.495
1954	BOS	AL	117	386	133	23	1	29	89	245	0.345	0.635	0.290
1955	BOS	AL	98	320	114	21	3	28	83	225	0.356	0.703	0.347
1956	BOS	AL	136	400	138	28	2	24	82	242	0.345	0.605	0.260
1957	BOS	AL	132	420	163	28	1	38	87	307	0.388	0.731	0.343
1958	BOS	AL	129	411	135	23	2	26	85	240	0.328	0.584	0.255
1959	BOS	AL	103	272	69	15	0	10	43	114	0.254	0.419	0.165
1960	BOS	AL	113	310	98	15	0	29	72	200	0.316	0.645	0.329
871	2620	891	159	10	198	578	1664	0.340	0.635	0.295
Williams had a higher SLG and Isolated Power in the 2nd half of his career.
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Davis21wylieMVP
984 days ago
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Pre-Age 32, Ted hit a HR every 15.7 AB. Post-Age 32, he hit a HR every 13.2 AB. Tell me, who was it that needed to do their homework?
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Bball3345Draft Pick
984 days ago
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Thank you D21Wylie... Yes, Anon, those numbers are what I was referring to. I would love to see your rebuttal with some actual facts.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
984 days ago
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If you can read, balls, you would see i gave you the stats for ted willams.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
984 days ago
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less hrs in less games, but more per game... it's our friend, Math... know it well!
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
984 days ago
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His HR Total went down in his later years, not up!!! Still don't see the HR surge??
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Bball3345Draft Pick
984 days ago
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His HR totals went down, but his HR rate went up. Therefore, Williams had more HR power later in his career.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
984 days ago
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In fact, show me ANY baseball player that had a career 12+ years that had more HRs the last half of their career. I really don't want to see any other stats except HRs per year.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
984 days ago
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Hank Aaron: From Age 20-31, he hit 0.22 HRs/Game. From Age 32-42, he hit 0.24 HRs/Game.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
984 days ago
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Aaron recorded his 2 highest SLG at the ages of 37 and 39.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
984 days ago
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Balls, again, not that hard. Show me one player, just one! That had a 12+ year career that hit more HRs per year in the last half of their career. The only ones that have done this feat are STEROID USERS...
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Bball3345Draft Pick
984 days ago
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Sorry, but if you are going to insist on using one specific (inferior) stat, then you find it. The burden of proof is on you. You are claiming that Bonds is unique, so back it up. You can't just make this claim, conclude Bonds is on steroids, and not once give any supporting stats.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
984 days ago
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Balls, I can see that you and Davie are going crazy. Don't because I already checked. There is no baseball player that accomplished that feat. The only way you could is if you began using STEROIDS in the second half of your career.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
984 days ago
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Wait! I Did just give you one: Hank Aaron. You can't use HRs/year, because years differ in length. So, I used HR/games, and gave you "ONE!" example.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
984 days ago
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Balls, now the number of HRs per year is an inferior stat?! You're reaching balls, really reaching. You can jump up and down all you want. It's impossible to hit more HRs in the second half of a 12+ year career in baseball. IMPOSSIBLE.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
984 days ago
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If someone plays 15 games in a year and hits 5 HRs, then plays 160 games in a year and hits 30 HRs, HOW CAN YOU EVEN COMPARE THESE AS EQUALS. This is what you are doing. You are assuming a short season is the same as a long season. Hence, Davis and I used HRs/AB or HRs/Games.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
984 days ago
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Again, HRs per year...that's all. Show me one player that was not on steroids that could accomplish such a feat.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
984 days ago
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...and great article, NiteOwl.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
984 days ago
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And BTW, Davie and Balls- Ted Williams was in World War II, where he sacrificed his most productive seasons. The stats would have been even more dramatic proving my point.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
984 days ago
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Have to agree with Anon1 here. I think the large dropoff in HR totals over the latter 1/2 of Splinter's career is more significant than the slight increase in HR rate, and thus, indicative more of a ACTUAL power decline than an increase. Consider he had more AB's, more of a sample, in the first half of career. BBall and Davis's argument seems to imply that if Williams had more AB's later in his career, then he would've hit more HR's. That cannot be supported with anything concrete.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
984 days ago
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"If Williams had more AB's later in his career, then he would've hit more HRs." Are you seriously going to question that? If Williams had 50 more at bats, I guarantee he would have hit at least one more HR; therefore, "he would've hit more HRs."
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
984 days ago
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You can shove your guarantees in a sack, my friend. I will question that as much as you will support it. You have absolutely no concrete evidence to support that he would have hit any more HR's. Perhaps you have access to Williams in the cryogenics lab and have been able to run some tests that we're not aware of?
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
984 days ago
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All things being equal, sure. But I'd offer that the flaw in your argument is that you are not considering why there is a dropoff in games played. Or have you? That dropoff could be attributed to so many factors - injuries, decline in skills. Why did Ted Williams retire if he thought he could continue to be successful? Maybe you know something he didn't?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
984 days ago
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Maybe at his older age, he would hit more HRs with more ABs but then all that hitting would wear him out and he'd return to a lesser number?
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
984 days ago
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Let's look at Bonds HR stats...not too pretty Balls/Davies.

Bonds from the age of 21 - 34 hit on average 32HRs/year.

All of a sudden (STEROIDS) from the age of 35 - 39 he hit on average 52 HRs/year.

So, how does a guy for 14 SEASONS hit 32 HRs/year jump to 52 HRs/year?!

STEROIDS!! STEROIDS!! STEROIDS!!
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
984 days ago
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Face it Davies Balls, Bonds HR records will always have an asterik. He should not have any records, it's a disgrace to baseball.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
984 days ago
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Lastly, all the author said was that "Bonds suddenly found his home run stroke in his mid 30's and has hit more home runs since age of 35 than most players hit in their entire careers." Even if we accept (we haven't) that Aaron and Williams have had "power spikes" that still doesn't make the above statement untrue.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
984 days ago
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I would bet a greater percentage of players hit less HRs in their careers than Bonds hit in 2001 alone...so yes, it does.
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Davis21wylieMVP
984 days ago
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You guys are still here? I had time to get something to eat and come back, and you're still talking about this? Wow. Is it a slow day at Merrill Lynch or something?
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
984 days ago
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Good one Davie! Bonds used a lot of steroids, which increased his HRs/year by 20 after he had already played for 14 seasons.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
984 days ago
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Anon, did you factor in that his one 73 HR season skews that average? Did you factor in that HRs in general were up across baseball later in his career due to things besides steroids?
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KelsdadAll-Star
984 days ago
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Like what things?
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Bball3345Draft Pick
984 days ago
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Smaller ballparks, juiced balls, rule changes to favor batters, etc.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
984 days ago
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better pitch selection, PEDs or not he trained harder and prepared better, was completely focused and stayed hot for an amazing amount of time... In the grand scheme of things, over the course of the season 49hrs isn't much different than 73. Yeah, it's 24 more in total, but over 162 game season that's one more HR every 6 and a half games... It's alot but it's not.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
984 days ago
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Tony Gwynn: From the age of 22-31, he hit 53 HRs. From the age of 32-41, he hit 82 HRs. I'll do the math for you, that is 5.3 HRs per year in the first half of his career and 8.2 HRs per year in the latter half. What do you say to that? Was Gwynn on steroids?
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KelsdadAll-Star
984 days ago
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Now you're nickling and dimeing, and not very well.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
984 days ago
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Anon was asking for an example by his specific rules, so I gave him one. He said it would be impossible to find one unless the player used steroids.
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Anonymous Fanatic #3
984 days ago
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You know I respect your work BBall, and Davis' too, but at some point you guys have to admit the primary reason for the increase in numbers is steriod related.

Hitting a baseball is the single most difficult thing to do in sports. As a player gets older, his hand/eye coordination, his reflexes, etc. slow down. What makes a Hall of Fame hitter a Hall of Fame hitter is being able to MENTALLY compensate for the physical changes. The reason Aaron and Williams and other hitters remain consistent throughout their careers is the ability to make these adjustments. They become better hitters in some cases. It's true Aaron had his career high homer season at the age of 37, but he exceeded his previous career high by just two. A really insignificant number. Williams had his career high of 43 at the age of 31, and in the last 11 years of his career only reached 30 twice more. Going into the 2000 season, Barry had three 40 homer seasons. In 2000, he established his career high of 49. The next year, (ironically, at age 37) he BLEW AWAY his career high by 24 homers! The next three seasons he was again in the forties, but as you like to point out, he had an unrealistic homer/AB ratio, if he walked 120 times he would have been close to 70 in those three seasons.

I know you're a big Barry fan, but the only way he can go from being an already great player to putting up Playstation numbers is by cheating. NO ONE is that good.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
984 days ago
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The PITCHERS took steroids too...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
984 days ago
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the game has changed and he is pretty damned good. Griffey might've done the same thing (not over yet) if not for injury. A-Rod might BLOW Barry away! Barry had a pretty healthy career until he got older... like Williams, like Aaron or is it because of steroids, KD?
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KelsdadAll-Star
984 days ago
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That was me. Damn.
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KelsdadAll-Star
984 days ago
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Bonds took steriods, and all you have to do is look at him. I'm sure he is a smarter hitter at 37 than he was at 27, if he wasn't he wouldn't be playing anymore. But beating your career high in homers, or any other stat, by almost 50% is impossible without help. And you said yourself Manny, that when all this comes out it'll be worse than anyone imagined, so why do you continue to defend him?
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EnyboDiv-I Stud
983 days ago
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Can you really say that Sosa is in a slump? Wouldn't he have to be able to hit first? He was terrible in Baltimore and then took a year off. I think his performance is perfectly in accord with current abilities.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
983 days ago
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In one of my earlier posts I mentioned that Bonds hit 186 homers in five years before using steroids then 258 in the next five years and averaged 37 homers in the five years before steroids and 51 homers a year after steroids in the following five years. That is only reason he is anywhere close to Aaron because of Bonds taking steroids which he amazingly thought was flaxseed oil.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
983 days ago
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3 hits in 17 at bats constitutes a slump in my book and one of those hits was a checked swing hit that happened to fall in for a hit. I am rooting for Sosa to do well this year so hope he starts hitting soon.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
983 days ago
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You are rooting for Sosa, but against Bonds? How can you have it both ways?
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Niteowl049AAA-er
983 days ago
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Don't see the spike in home runs you mentioned for Hank Aaron.He did hit 40 in 1973 but in his last three years his home runs totals dropped from 20 to 12 to 10. The only reason Ted Williams seemed to have a home run spike is that the year before he ended his career and hit 29 homers he hit only 10 when he had the worst year of his career the year before.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
983 days ago
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Manny Stiles, You stated that there is not much difference between 49 and 73 HRs per season!! Are you a baseball fan? Do you watch games? Not sure what planet you are living on?

Show me in the last 50 years how many players hit over 60 HRs in a season. All of a sudden during the Steroid Years, you had multiple players doing it and in the same season!!!

Stop already, Davies, Manny, and Balls. Steroids allowed these players to hit much more HRs than they should have. Remember Brady Anderson on Baltimore? Steroids even got him to 50 HRs in one season.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
983 days ago
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Again, thank you Anon#2, Niteowl, and K-dad for bringing some common sense to this discussion.
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TylersaltAll-Star
982 days ago
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Wayyyy too many flame-type posts here. Let's keep it civil, folks.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
981 days ago
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I like Sammy Sosa in that he brings enthusiasm into the game while Bonds only brings negativity into the game. Sosa may have been on steroids but he hasn't been linked to them as closely as Bonds has. There are no Balco type connections like Bonds has.
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